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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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I did a search and the opinions range all over the place, (I'm leaning toward a blackwing, If for no reason other than all the threads earlier in the summer about some people who had the cars get hydrolock when using a Vararam setup. But my main question is has anyone had the MAF module go bad because of it being fouled by the oil in the filters themselves ? The GM technicians I talked to have told me to stick to paper elements, that a K&N or other oil filter systems will ultimately ruin the MAF sensor with oil buildup ? Any ideas ? Opinions ?

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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:39 PM
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Unless you really soak the filter with oil, I don't think you will have any problems with the MAF sensor. I ran a Blackwing on my '00 for well over 6 years and it did not foul the sensor. Have a Blackwing on my '03 also.
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
Unless you really soak the filter with oil, I don't think you will have any problems with the MAF sensor. I ran a Blackwing on my '00 for well over 6 years and it did not foul the sensor. Have a Blackwing on my '03 also.
Was the blackwing easy to install ? and it says it still uses the stock air bridge. Is that true ? Also, how long have you had the SLP blackwing and how othen do you need to clean it, the filter ? I only drive about 2-3000 miles a summer. It goes to bed in the salty winter. Thank you for your feedback !
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If you MAF gets fouled, just get some carb cleaner and shoot the wires...

When you get a new "cloth" intake, you should always wrap the
filter with newspaper over night to remove any extra oil on the filter before installing.

Check out the new 57 and 63 series from K&N

http://www.customcorvetteaccessories...5corvette.html

Killer set up

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Originally Posted by killain
I did a search and the opinions range all over the place, (I'm leaning toward a blackwing, If for no reason other than all the threads earlier in the summer about some people who had the cars get hydrolock when using a Vararam setup. But my main question is has anyone had the MAF module go bad because of it being fouled by the oil in the filters themselves ? The GM technicians I talked to have told me to stick to paper elements, that a K&N or other oil filter systems will ultimately ruin the MAF sensor with oil buildup ? Any ideas ? Opinions ?
I use a K&N and havent had any MAF issues, just dont soak the filter with oil.

Also, I did a "custom" intake by cutting the stock intake port bigger
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Does the K&N 63 seires require any retuning? It looks really good, I too was considering the Blackwing but this one maybe my choice now. Might match up well with my corsa exhuast and x-pipe - '03 vert. ???
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Hi There,
Here you are.Pictures & a step by step install. Easy install even has a built in monitor to tell you when to clean.
[url]http://97vette.com/howto/blackwing/index.html The gm techs tell you to stick with the stock items because that ensures business for the dealership. If you decide on the b/wing Bring your car to me & I'll install it for free.
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I removed a Blackwing when I installed the Vararam,picked up 3/10's at the track and throttle response on the street was much improved.I have only heard of one engine supposedly hydrolocked with a vararam setup and the driver admitted he drove through very deep water.Pretty much his fault,not the system.
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Originally Posted by tomringo
Does the K&N 63 seires require any retuning? It looks really good, I too was considering the Blackwing but this one maybe my choice now. Might match up well with my corsa exhuast and x-pipe - '03 vert. ???
No tuning required.

Your computer will relearn in 100-200 miles or 10 hot/cold cycles

The air bridge is much better constructed, significantly stronger and will not deform, and very very smooth on the inside.

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Go with the Vararam. Re-designed. I have driven through very heavy rain without any issues. Just don't drive the nose into a pond and you'll be ok.
Your other post about a Chuck CoW tune...he'll put this on too.
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I've been using a Halltech Stinger for many years and have never had an issue with the MAF getting fuled with oil. (CRC does make an MAF cleaner that is available at most auto supply stores)

Normally, I recommend adding my CAI mod to a Halltech or Blackwing intake setup but if you regularly drive in pouring rain, you might want to stay away from true CAIs that can allow the filter to be soaked. Opening up the fog light panels (by coring holes in them or removing them all together) and then installing Z06 screens will allow some water to get into your engine bay but seeing that GM did this with all C5 Z06s, I doubt it's be a problem.

Here's my procedure for cleaning a Halltech or Blackwing:

http://www.conceptualpolymer.com/Cle...0filter%20.pdf

Some of the filter is extra dirty because that part is exposed to high-velocity, outside air via a polycarbonate "scoop".
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Originally Posted by bullmarket
Go with the Vararam. Re-designed. I have driven through very heavy rain without any issues. Just don't drive the nose into a pond and you'll be ok.
Your other post about a Chuck CoW tune...he'll put this on too.
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