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01 vs older c5
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01 vs older c5
I was wandering about the little HP increase that all 01 and newer models received. what does this increase mean in a 1/4 mile, Would I feel any difference at all in acceleration between 01,02,03,04 and older c5 s?
I would appreciate if someone who has had both cars could give me a little comparison. the reason I m asking is because I would like to trade my 01 A4 vert for a manual vette. Someone told me that because of the 10 lb ft difference 01 vert with auto would feel just as fast as older ones with m6, in that case I would rather go for 01-04 m6.
I would appreciate if someone who has had both cars could give me a little comparison. the reason I m asking is because I would like to trade my 01 A4 vert for a manual vette. Someone told me that because of the 10 lb ft difference 01 vert with auto would feel just as fast as older ones with m6, in that case I would rather go for 01-04 m6.
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Starting in 01, non-Z06 MN6s had 5 more HP and 25 lbs-ft of torque over 97-00 MN6s (up to 350HP and 375 lb-ft torque). The A4 torque increase was 10 lb-ft, I believe but HP was up by 5 as well.
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The older cars have other potential problems-ask the guys trying to find replacement EBCM for the early cars. Get the newest car you can afford.
OH, and WANDERING and WONDERING are 2 different words.
OH, and WANDERING and WONDERING are 2 different words.
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Since the numbers you quoted are flywheel HP and Torque, I'm curious how the transmission makes for a different number? To the best of my knowledge the engines in the manual and auto are identical.
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2000 A4
Horsepower @ RPM - 345 @ 5600
Torque (lbs. ft.) 350 @4400
2001-2004
350 HP @ 5,600 rpm; 360 ft lb
ONLY PLACE I COULD FIND THE NUMBERS THE ORIGINAL POSTER REFERENCED WAS CORVETTE ACTION CENTER.
All other sources (edmunds, motortrend, etc, etc) all stated 5hp/10ftlb increase. It didnt break out the a4/m6 variance either, so I'm not sure where those number came from or are based off of.
I thought the ls6 intake was really the only performance difference in the two "series".
Horsepower @ RPM - 345 @ 5600
Torque (lbs. ft.) 350 @4400
2001-2004
350 HP @ 5,600 rpm; 360 ft lb
ONLY PLACE I COULD FIND THE NUMBERS THE ORIGINAL POSTER REFERENCED WAS CORVETTE ACTION CENTER.
All other sources (edmunds, motortrend, etc, etc) all stated 5hp/10ftlb increase. It didnt break out the a4/m6 variance either, so I'm not sure where those number came from or are based off of.
I thought the ls6 intake was really the only performance difference in the two "series".
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I do believe the intake manifold was different due to the LS1 to LS6 change. A lot of the 1997-2000 owners like myself (1999 owner) swap out the intake manifold for a later LS6 one. I got mine off an 02 Corvette. If you were to buy the manifold and then have a shop install it you'd spend about $500 ($300-400 for manifold and $100-150 for labor).
So if you were planning to do something like that you can kind of add that into the reasoning of getting the 01+ vette. If you are thinking of putting on something like a FAST intake manifold then that whole point may be mute to begin with. But for people like me who daily drive the car and race it on average of 1 time a year the LS6 intake was a much cheaper alternative to the FAST intake.
As far as the difference at the track due to the LS1 to LS6 intake manifold swap I have no idea. Air going into the engine is important so I'd imagine it would have an effect but not sure as to how much. Probably something like .05 of a second. Certainly not something like a half a second just due to that.
So if you were planning to do something like that you can kind of add that into the reasoning of getting the 01+ vette. If you are thinking of putting on something like a FAST intake manifold then that whole point may be mute to begin with. But for people like me who daily drive the car and race it on average of 1 time a year the LS6 intake was a much cheaper alternative to the FAST intake.
As far as the difference at the track due to the LS1 to LS6 intake manifold swap I have no idea. Air going into the engine is important so I'd imagine it would have an effect but not sure as to how much. Probably something like .05 of a second. Certainly not something like a half a second just due to that.
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buy the newest one you can afford, period. a few ponies aren't going to make any difference - you're not going to leave it stock anyhow...
Besides, 10 years out, there is probably going to be that much variation between cars just based on wear, tune, etc...
Besides, 10 years out, there is probably going to be that much variation between cars just based on wear, tune, etc...
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I had a 98 M6 with a few bolt-ons. Now a 01 M6 stock (although Bullets are going on in a few days
). Honestly, I can't tell a difference in power. Maybe if you drove them one after another. Just look for the right car, whatever the year. And manuals are a lot more fun than autos
). Honestly, I can't tell a difference in power. Maybe if you drove them one after another. Just look for the right car, whatever the year. And manuals are a lot more fun than autos
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The early cars have other issues too-like the expensive Tire Pressure Monitors.