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that 110 wasnt leaded was it? lol thatll mess with or mess up the 02 sensors. once upon a time, in my newbieness, i put a gal of 110 in my t/a at the track when i almost ran out of gas. they didnt have any 103 unleaded left, and at the time, i thought 110 was unleaded as well lol. the car kept throwing 02 sensor codes until all of the 110 was burned off. sure did smell good tho!
it was turbo blue 110, but I don't recall what type-they offer leaded and unleaded IIRC. But it doesn't matter anyway because I am missing 2 o2 sensors and the other ones are turned off. Plus, my car has no cats so it won't be messing those up either! It's had quite a few tanks of 93 run through it since then, so no worries!
Let me start by saying I am happy to pay for 91 octane except in Colorado. I have been told by a very highly recommended corvette specialist ( not a dealer ) that at altitudes above 4000 feet I should use 85 octane and throw in an octane booster every 3 or 4 tanks fulls. It's NOT a gas cost saving issue. At 6000 feet ( Colorado Springs) the alcohol in 91 octane merely causes the O2 sensors in the cats to become "sugar" coated. That then triggers the Check Engine light to come on and the PCM code of P0430 to be displayed - TWC Sys low efficiency Bank 2. The Dealer then wants to charge $3700 to replace both cats. I only have 37000 miles on my 04. I bought it used in Chicago the day after Christmas 2012. Adding fuel ( pardon the pun) to the fire, the P0430 code is followed by an H and a C. Checking back, at 16000 miles from the service record the entire exhaust system was replaced. OUCH. SO do I have a bad cat or not? Didn't go the expected 100,000 miles according to the code. SO, I am putting my faith in the local non-dealer expert who runs 85 octane in his 2005. I will run 3 tanks of 85 octane and if the Check Engine light doesn't go out I will have the expert look at the O2 sensors and fix accordingly.
Any thoughts? I see where folks are calling other folks idiots for not using 91 or better but they never state where they live.
Thanks in advance for your reply. The dealer of course never heard of this and I even have Bolling Green looking into it.
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Originally Posted by DaleInColorado
Let me start by saying I am happy to pay for 91 octane except in Colorado. I have been told by a very highly recommended corvette specialist ( not a dealer ) that at altitudes above 4000 feet I should use 85 octane and throw in an octane booster every 3 or 4 tanks fulls. It's NOT a gas cost saving issue. At 6000 feet ( Colorado Springs) the alcohol in 91 octane merely causes the O2 sensors in the cats to become "sugar" coated. That then triggers the Check Engine light to come on and the PCM code of P0430 to be displayed - TWC Sys low efficiency Bank 2. The Dealer then wants to charge $3700 to replace both cats. I only have 37000 miles on my 04. I bought it used in Chicago the day after Christmas 2012. Adding fuel ( pardon the pun) to the fire, the P0430 code is followed by an H and a C. Checking back, at 16000 miles from the service record the entire exhaust system was replaced. OUCH. SO do I have a bad cat or not? Didn't go the expected 100,000 miles according to the code. SO, I am putting my faith in the local non-dealer expert who runs 85 octane in his 2005. I will run 3 tanks of 85 octane and if the Check Engine light doesn't go out I will have the expert look at the O2 sensors and fix accordingly.
Any thoughts? I see where folks are calling other folks idiots for not using 91 or better but they never state where they live.
Thanks in advance for your reply. The dealer of course never heard of this and I even have Bolling Green looking into it.
I agree you can get away just fine with lower octane in higher elevations, But watch out if you go to sea level.
I always fill up with 92 and it rarely takes me more than 35$ and never more than 40$ to fill up which is right at the same amount it cost to fill up my camaro(v6) with 87 and it only has a 16 gallon tank if Im not mistaken.
Sounds like I need to start filling up with 92 in VA for under $40. Down here in NC, I can't fill up with 93 for less than $60.
After 8,768 post from me on this topic in the last ten years, this is the last. Anyone who chooses 91 0ctane over 93 when available is a complete idiot. The difference between the two grades is 3 to 5 cents. Those using 87 are just plain stupid.. anyone who thinks their car runs good with 87 octane does so because they are just uneducated on engine damage cause by ping, ping is not knock, ping is rarely heard, but still causes big [problems over time. And the ones who say you can retune your car to run 87, just ghettoizes this car.. because of this problem I would never recommend anyone buying a C5 from someone that they do not know. Too many cheap people like the bling of a corvette C5 but do not deserve to own one or drive one.
One other point, 93 octane may only be necessary for 10 % of your actual driving: when its very hot, or your engine is under load or in the wrong gear. Trying to pass up hill in the wrong gear etc. with 93 octane this 10 % underload condition could otherwise be dangerous to the longevity of your engine. With 93 octane you wont have any issue when this 10 % load condition occurs. The cheap people will say well Ill use the lower grade because the other 90 % doesnt require it. The people who put 87 octane in their C5 also use the cheapest oil, and change it when it gets to 15,000 miles no matter how many years it takes. Because some oils say extended life oil good for 15,000 miles.
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ET makes a good point when looking to buy a C5, what if previous owners ran cheapie fuel? How would you ever know, unless seller was honest enough to say so.
I run 91 here in Colorado, I'm at 7200 ft and drive fro 4500 to 10/11000 ft all the time, one of my favorite runs goes from here up to 10500 back down to 4800 and back again. Haven't had any problems as of yet.
And really, I guess if your pockets are phat, you really dont give a rip one way or another, me I saved up long and hard for my vette, and ill be damned if I'm gonna run 87 in it. It will sit if I can't afford the fuel for it.
Now over the course of the years I've owned it there has been a couple of times that out of laziness/convenience that I topped off at a near by station that only sold 87 & 89. It was winter and I wasn't doing any "spirited" driving,mostly highway,and it was mixing with a substantial amount of 93,,so I figured 89 and 93 still came in around 91.
I haven't done this, but I'm curious, does this math actualy hold true?
1/2 tank 93 octane + 1/2 tank 89 octane = 91 octane
Let me start by saying I am happy to pay for 91 octane except in Colorado. I have been told by a very highly recommended corvette specialist ( not a dealer ) that at altitudes above 4000 feet I should use 85 octane and throw in an octane booster every 3 or 4 tanks fulls. It's NOT a gas cost saving issue. At 6000 feet ( Colorado Springs) the alcohol in 91 octane merely causes the O2 sensors in the cats to become "sugar" coated. That then triggers the Check Engine light to come on and the PCM code of P0430 to be displayed - TWC Sys low efficiency Bank 2. The Dealer then wants to charge $3700 to replace both cats. I only have 37000 miles on my 04. I bought it used in Chicago the day after Christmas 2012. Adding fuel ( pardon the pun) to the fire, the P0430 code is followed by an H and a C. Checking back, at 16000 miles from the service record the entire exhaust system was replaced. OUCH. SO do I have a bad cat or not? Didn't go the expected 100,000 miles according to the code. SO, I am putting my faith in the local non-dealer expert who runs 85 octane in his 2005. I will run 3 tanks of 85 octane and if the Check Engine light doesn't go out I will have the expert look at the O2 sensors and fix accordingly.
Any thoughts? I see where folks are calling other folks idiots for not using 91 or better but they never state where they live.
Thanks in advance for your reply. The dealer of course never heard of this and I even have Bolling Green looking into it.
I'm at 5,500 ft. and always ran 87 octane in most of my vettes. Got 90k on my 02 now and I've never had any engine problems in any of the cars fron running 87 octane. I average 32 mpg on the highway and 26 mpg around town. I've been called all sorts of names on here for doing it, but it's my car. I've also been told because of the altitude we can run lower octane gas here by more than one mechanic. I've been doing it for over ten years (in vettes) and I'll probably keep doing it.
I topped off the tank at Road America (ALMS)Saturday. Its was $9.69 a gallon (98 unleaded octane)It was worth the money just to drive thru the pits. Two fellows with full fire suits and their equipment standing on either side. I'm glad I did because Sunday I did a couple laps on the track. Doug from ECS told me If you going to pound on it, an extra 40 or 50 bucks (higher octane) is cheap insurance. Normally run 93 everyday day driving.