Soliciting feedback......
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Le Mans Master
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Soliciting feedback......
Question: Would you want an E-Force Supercharger system for the C5? Right now Edlebrock says they are holding back from doing it because unlike the C6, the design will not fit under a stock hood. They are afraid it would not sell well enough to justify the effort if people knew they also needed to modify or replace the hood. What do you guys think?
What if Edlebrock offered a hood at a reasonable additional cost to the kit, would it be palatable then?
What if Edlebrock offered a hood at a reasonable additional cost to the kit, would it be palatable then?
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Yes, I would consider an EDLEBROCK supercharger for my car, but only if it could be fit under the oem hood. That's the beauty of his design. If anybody can figure out how to do it, Vic Edlebrock can.
I have a Z16 carbon fiber hood that I wouldn't give up...
I have a Z16 carbon fiber hood that I wouldn't give up...
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Le Mans Master
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I personally like the look of a TVS/PD blower ...especially the E-Force. It looks very OEM yet you get a pretty reliable bang for the buck.
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You can run the E-force at several pounds less boost then a centrifugal and make the same power. Less boost equals better reliability and less wear on the motor, also PD blowers generate boost at lower rpm's than centrifugal. The magnachargers are nice but not a fan of using a jackshaft.
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All they need to do is find a hood that it will fit under and tell everyone that if they want it, to get that hood. Not a big deal. They're keeping the C5's out of the market in a stupid fashion. God knows there's plenty of us that ran Maggies with different hoods.
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assuing I get to keep my vette it isc urrently for sale
Most likely will come home this friday been up for sale for 3 weeks so far and no offers of anykind. Onto said subject, I would definitely be interested if they could offer a complete package. Price is always an issue, but if you want something they can make it relatively reasonable, then a definite yes. I am surprised they cannot make it fit though, I seem to think there is more room under C5 hoods then the C6?? might be a config issue but really does not pass the common sense test that might be the excuse they are using. I think if they explored the issue and made a quality product, and I am a fan of edleborck, I think they would make some money. I am exploring twin turbos because edleborck does not offer a E force super charger for the C5. I watched the DIY episode on horepower tv, and loved the idea of a twin turbo setup, but its pricy??.
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The hood issue is probally the biggest problem. You spend $4-5k on a blower, then another $1k for a hood + the paint work.
The next problem is I bet there would be atleast a 50/50 split on the hood. Some like it, some hate it.
The next problem is I bet there would be atleast a 50/50 split on the hood. Some like it, some hate it.
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My first reaction was a huge YES!! however, it does require some qualification.
First, it will need to be a significant savings over the Maggie. The only reason I don't have a Maggie now is the $13K pricetag.
The Maggie is beautiful and produces about the same power as the E-Force. The main attraction of the E-force on the C6 was the hood issue. That alone saves us $2-3K and offers some stealth to those that want it. Take that away and it is less appealing.
Give me an E-Force package option that is priced like the Centri's and I'll be very interested. Even if I have to add the hood cost on top.
First, it will need to be a significant savings over the Maggie. The only reason I don't have a Maggie now is the $13K pricetag.
The Maggie is beautiful and produces about the same power as the E-Force. The main attraction of the E-force on the C6 was the hood issue. That alone saves us $2-3K and offers some stealth to those that want it. Take that away and it is less appealing.
Give me an E-Force package option that is priced like the Centri's and I'll be very interested. Even if I have to add the hood cost on top.
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My first reaction was a huge YES!! however, it does require some qualification.
First, it will need to be a significant savings over the Maggie. The only reason I don't have a Maggie now is the $13K pricetag.
The Maggie is beautiful and produces about the same power as the E-Force. The main attraction of the E-force on the C6 was the hood issue. That alone saves us $2-3K and offers some stealth to those that want it. Take that away and it is less appealing.
Give me an E-Force package option that is priced like the Centri's and I'll be very interested. Even if I have to add the hood cost on top.
First, it will need to be a significant savings over the Maggie. The only reason I don't have a Maggie now is the $13K pricetag.
The Maggie is beautiful and produces about the same power as the E-Force. The main attraction of the E-force on the C6 was the hood issue. That alone saves us $2-3K and offers some stealth to those that want it. Take that away and it is less appealing.
Give me an E-Force package option that is priced like the Centri's and I'll be very interested. Even if I have to add the hood cost on top.
I think Edlebrock's goal with the E-Force is to have a complete, relatively easy-to-install package for significant street performance improvement. That being said, the hood clearance takes away from the "all in one" aspect....unless Edlebrock works out a deal with one of the hood manufacturers or creates their own and offers a "Ready to Paint" fiberglass hood as an option.
If one is looking for the most powerful FI system on the market, he/she won't pick an E-Force, but if you want a well engineered, all in one box, reliable system with an OEM look, E-Force goes to the top of the list.
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The small cubes of an LS1 would really benefit from the roots-ish blower. My only complaint with my C5 is lack of low-end torque.
I would consider an aftermarket hood but most jack with the lines of the car and rarely ever fit as well as the stock hood. Some of the aftermarket hood fitments I have seen make the C5 look like a kit car.
On top of that, you have cost plus paint. At that point, a centrifigal (with a small pulley and restrictor plate) starts looking more attractive - and simpler.
Unless Edelbrock can come up with a (very) cost-effective, elegant hood solution, it has to fit under the stock hood.
I would consider an aftermarket hood but most jack with the lines of the car and rarely ever fit as well as the stock hood. Some of the aftermarket hood fitments I have seen make the C5 look like a kit car.
On top of that, you have cost plus paint. At that point, a centrifigal (with a small pulley and restrictor plate) starts looking more attractive - and simpler.
Unless Edelbrock can come up with a (very) cost-effective, elegant hood solution, it has to fit under the stock hood.
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YES! I would.
It's a great design, My Vette is blown now and to throw one of them self contained units on the top and get it to run 9's would be a blast -
If it just needed a small lift in the hood (Not a big lift) but a subtle lift that would of been something to do for sure
The market is there for the C5's, KB's and Maggies are still selling and the hood they need looks like it would bigger than the Eforce's hood.
Thanks,Matt
It's a great design, My Vette is blown now and to throw one of them self contained units on the top and get it to run 9's would be a blast -
If it just needed a small lift in the hood (Not a big lift) but a subtle lift that would of been something to do for sure
The market is there for the C5's, KB's and Maggies are still selling and the hood they need looks like it would bigger than the Eforce's hood.
Thanks,Matt
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I've talked to Edelbrock about an LS1 kit and was told its not just the hood, the supercharger won't fit under the cowl on a C5. On C6s the back of the blower just fits under the cowl. I was told they're working on it, but don't have a solution at this point.
I've done 2 installs on C6s and can tell you the results are impressive
I've done 2 installs on C6s and can tell you the results are impressive
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Edelbrock E-force ?
I don't know about anyone else, but I just got done reading an interview in the new magazine "Auto Enthusiast" and with Vic Edlebrock. And it's as clear as a bell from what Mr. Edelbrock says that he really didn't want to get involved in a supercharging system until Eaton/Magnuson had done all the heavy lifting, engineering wise ? From the interview Edelbrock only was looking at the profit from working on the 'E-force' system. Not really very impressive as far as I'm concerned. He states the manifold required too much work, (Well what does Edelbrock Inc. do, they make intake manifolds the last time I checked ?) When the 1981 to the 1984 crossfire injected engines badly needed a totally new designed manifold. But did Mr. Edelbrock step up with a much better than the original manifold? Hell no. No profit enough for him to get involved then either. Vic Edelbrock does what's good for Mr.Edelbrock period !