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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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yeah... wind!
so basically both our points state that deeper transmission gearing yields lower top speeds. it's simple math
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zebra86
yeah... wind!
so basically both our points state that deeper transmission gearing yields lower top speeds. it's simple math
I wasn’t arguing with ya. I figured that was where you were going with it. Anywho, I just wanted to provide the gear ratios in case anyone else was curious
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by manley845
I wasn’t arguing with ya. I figured that was where you were going with it. Anywho, I just wanted to provide the gear ratios in case anyone else was curious
oh, i know!
basically - going back to the beginning, an auto will mathematically faster due to the gearing, but a manual will be quicker
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by edram454
a4 easier on engine due to no over revving, with 3.42 gears it is a beast. never a missed shift and no expensive clutches and other parts to replace. the a4's are durable unless you are unleashing 500+ hp then you will have to upgrade some parts. I see most drivers lose drag races missing shifts.. bumping rev limiter etc... autos never make mistakes and usually win. fyi.
It's impossible to over rev an auto or manual transmission vette...the stock rev-limiter does its job quite well.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Depends on your goals---IF you want a DD weekend occasinal drag race car--my opinion is the A4 is best--BUT I would deff get a stall converter in the 3000 range---
IF you watch PINKS--you'll see 99% of the cars in the over 10 second range all use automatics !!! WHY--cause an auto is more consistant to for a driver that doesn't have 100's of laps under his belt-- and in bracket racing where everyone runs the same ET's--its consistancy that wins races--Not HP--Too many variables involved in driving a M6 to run consistantly the same everytime----Like launch RPM--Shift RPM
driver experience--- I don't care if you're Mario Andretti--you're not gonna drive that car better than that computer will in a car with an A4 !!! JMHO

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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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Right, but you're assuming the only track the car is taken to is a drag strip. I DD my car, but there are road race tracks around here. I've never taken my car to one, but I plan to at some point. Remember, these are Corvettes; not Camaros. I don't see anything wrong with DDing a 6 speed. Some people think back to the days of cable driven and heavy clutches and immediately think "AUTO!" But LSx clutches are hydro-assist and really easy to engage/disengage. I'll admit that I was once stuck in bumper to bumper for 3 full hours and I was hating my 6 speed at that moment, but it's too rare an occurrence for me to switch to an auto. The fun I have with a 6 speed cannot be had with an auto.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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haha... i DD my truck & it's a blast - even in traffic. shoot - the vette was easier to DD around town those few weeks because i shift less doing the 1-3-5 instead of the 1 through 5 i have to do in the truck
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by flynbyu2
It's impossible to over rev an auto or manual transmission vette...the stock rev-limiter does its job quite well.
Not exactly correct...under normal circumstances then yes the Rev limiter kicks in but a 3-2 downshift or a 5-4 downshift could cause a mechanical over Rev. Then hopefully you can get the clutch pushed back in before something goes boom.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06Electron
Not exactly correct...under normal circumstances then yes the Rev limiter kicks in but a 3-2 downshift or a 5-4 downshift could cause a mechanical over Rev. Then hopefully you can get the clutch pushed back in before something goes boom.
or (God forbid) an accidental 4-1!
i can tell ya - it's friggin scary!
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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I did an accidental 5-2... But the clutch never came up before I realized it and quickly put it in 4th... What's crazy is that it actually LET me put it in 2nd doing about 70MPH!
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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haha... no "shift denied" messages for us!
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SCM_Crash
I did an accidental 5-2... But the clutch never came up before I realized it and quickly put it in 4th... What's crazy is that it actually LET me put it in 2nd doing about 70MPH!
Well at least you wont over rev at 70 in 2nd...
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How many different times and ways will the auto v. manual conversation take place?

If you're a drag racer or have a bad left knee or are just a little lazy then go with an auto.
If you're a road racer or just want to feel more connected to your car and enjoy banging through the gears then go with a manual.

Personally I love the experience of driving with two feet and being able to downshift before changing lanes, not to mention the increased throttle response that comes with a manual, and my Z06 is my daily driver in L.A.'s city traffic. It's certainly not for everybody though.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by m6 c5
Well at least you wont over rev at 70 in 2nd...
I'm not on an MN6. I'm on an MN12. 2nd only goes to 65 ish.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by skyavonee
How many different times and ways will the auto v. manual conversation take place?

If you're a drag racer or have a bad left knee or are just a little lazy then go with an auto.
If you're a road racer or just want to feel more connected to your car and enjoy banging through the gears then go with a manual.

Personally I love the experience of driving with two feet and being able to downshift before changing lanes, not to mention the increased throttle response that comes with a manual, and my Z06 is my daily driver in L.A.'s city traffic. It's certainly not for everybody though.


I absolutely LOVE driving and being a part of the experience. Now that auto equipped cars are coming with paddle shifters, I think I still would get a manual tranny. That would be a tough decision.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by manley845
I absolutely LOVE driving and being a part of the experience. Now that auto equipped cars are coming with paddle shifters, I think I still would get a manual tranny. That would be a tough decision.
I wouldn't mind trying a car with nice paddle shifters (like maybe a Ferrari, I'm assuming). I've driven one of the new V6 Camaros with paddle shifters and wasn't impressed at all. It just wasn't responsive enough.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by skyavonee
I wouldn't mind trying a car with nice paddle shifters (like maybe a Ferrari, I'm assuming). I've driven one of the new V6 Camaros with paddle shifters and wasn't impressed at all. It just wasn't responsive enough.
Yeah, I was thinking about the Camaro, but a Ferrari is a good example too
The responsiveness would be my issue also. It was fun to drive and auto that had that feature, but I think that being able to control the clutch is part of the fun for me.

I don't even know, but do the C6's have paddle shifters? Hmmm, if so, maybe a test drive is in order.
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Originally Posted by manley845
I don't even know, but do the C6's have paddle shifters? Hmmm, if so, maybe a test drive is in order.
Oh yeah, forgot about the C6's :o
Grand Sports have a paddle shifter option.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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Oh yeah, forgot about the C6's :o
Grand Sports have a paddle shifter option.
Dang, that'd be a though choice. A Grand Sport with the paddle shifters and a custom tune to firm everything up would be bad @ss I bet.
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but the Grand Sport autos don't get the 'massaged' LS3 with the dry sump
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