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Obviously, the $22000 price premium reflects the entire basic package, but I wouldn't exactly call it complete! A big part of that package is apparently the "Callaway" name. The custom body treatment is primarily the "Power Bulge", which is a factory hood with a windowed bulge attached to clear the blower. The big polished blower is nice to look at, though, as are the custom exhaust tips. The interior on the cars appear to be stock plus badging, some stick on and some embroidered. Oh, and OZ racing wheels. Did I mention the badges? So I guess it comes down to how much a 3yr/36000 mile warranty is worth to you, because you can get the same blower kit, a tune, Lloyds floor mats, custom billet badges, a proper custom hood, a catback exhaust, custom wheels of your choice, plus (items not included in the Callaway package) a built transmission with converter, headers, and methanol injection. This will allow you to safely and reliably put over 700hp to the ground. I like the cars for what they are, but let's not kid ourselves. They are not that special! There is a reason that you, I, and many others have built our own "packages"!
Actually I skipped building "my own package" and specifically went with an MTI Z07
I had wanted their build since day 1. And you are right, I pretty much paid 20 large just so I could sport the MTI Z07 badges on the fenders
As regards to the Callaway "cars", even GM recognizes them as such. Has to mean something
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
By who's standard?
Callaway builds production quality cars, not one off Procharged custom rides with your choice of no cats and optional cam surge. They won't sell you a $4k fuel system for your TVS car either.
If you or anyone else can build such a better car why aren't you in business doing it? You make it sound so simple. I wonder why GM gives Callaway a blessing that no one else gets...could it be work quality?
By my standard! As I have stated on at least two other occassions!
It could be quality that got Callaway the deal (BTW - I've never commented on the quality of their work). It could also be that Callaway was the only one asking for it. You nor I will ever know the answer to that question. I am not in business building cars for many reasons. The first that comes to mind is that I don't want to be, but there are other shops in the business building better performing cars, IN MY OPINION, for less money. Callaway may not sell you a $4,000 fuel system for the TVS, but find me another forum vendor that sells a $22000 TVS, catback, and wheel combo. I can wait...
Callaway may not sell you a $4,000 fuel system for the TVS, but find me another forum vendor that sells a $22000 TVS, catback, and wheel combo. I can wait...
I could become a vendor and do that! Who wants my $50k wheel and hood package? I love profits. Hell for 70k I'll add a custom shift ****! I'll even throw in some nifty badges for free!
I'm running about 6.5 - 7 lbs of Boost with a Z06 motor, and my Car does not look stock. Hood, Rims, exhaust make it look quite different, and now tail lights.
I really like the workmanship and warranty from Callaway. Everything is stress tested on thier C6 Z06. Again you are also paying for the name, but it does make it that much more exclusive then a "normal" Corvette.
By my standard! As I have stated on at least two other occassions!
It could be quality that got Callaway the deal (BTW - I've never commented on the quality of their work). It could also be that Callaway was the only one asking for it. You nor I will ever know the answer to that question. I am not in business building cars for many reasons. The first that comes to mind is that I don't want to be, but there are other shops in the business building better performing cars, IN MY OPINION, for less money. Callaway may not sell you a $4,000 fuel system for the TVS, but find me another forum vendor that sells a $22000 TVS, catback, and wheel combo. I can wait...
I can give you a forum vendor that charged someone over $30k for a TVS install with no wheels, badges, warranty, etc.
There are 2 factions of vette owners. Guys/Gals that turn their own wrenches and Guys/Gals that don't. I agree with Mister Peebody and cdnguyred88. We won't even get into what a cai, headers and a tune do for the C6Z. I'll take a real C6Z06 over a Grandsport any day. GS = Fake Z06
With that said, Callaway seems to be a formidible options for guys that want a turn key option with a warranty.
Callaway builds production quality cars, not one off Procharged custom rides with your choice of no cats and optional cam surge. They won't sell you a $4k fuel system for your TVS car either.
If you or anyone else can build such a better car why aren't you in business doing it? You make it sound so simple. I wonder why GM gives Callaway a blessing that no one else gets...could it be work quality?
Hate to say it but someone needs to....thats stupid! It's that attitude that some have that gets under my skin. There are people who are just as capable of building their own. To them it's a hobby, not a job.
I've built custom vehicles for a long time, also been responsible for $6 million prototype vehicles for production. It's asinine to assume everyone can't build better vehicles cause they aren't "in production" and therefore only certain name brand shops can.
There are guys and gals who build cars everyday in their home shops or small commercial shops that are just as good for less money, cause in reality there is more costs associated with operating a "brand managed" business.
So don't be foolish to think that Callaway or any other "shop built" has the one-up on everyone.
I apologize now if you took that as a personal response to you specifically. I merely wanted to address the overall statement that because others aren't in production they don't have a better product.
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Hate to say it but someone needs to....thats stupid! It's that attitude that some have that gets under my skin. There are people who are just as capable of building their own. To them it's a hobby, not a job.
I've built custom vehicles for a long time, also been responsible for $6 million prototype vehicles for production. It's asinine to assume everyone can't build better vehicles cause they aren't "in production" and therefore only certain name brand shops can.
There are guys and gals who build cars everyday in their home shops or small commercial shops that are just as good for less money, cause in reality there is more costs associated with operating a "brand managed" business.
So don't be foolish to think that Callaway or any other "shop built" has the one-up on everyone.
I apologize now if you took that as a personal response to you specifically. I merely wanted to address the overall statement that because others aren't in production they don't have a better product.
Ive oversaw the building of several $10m condo buildings in 2005/6...that doesn't mean I could do all the work myself, does it?
Conversely, I see it as highly arrogant for the people to think they are as qualified as BSME's who went to school to do this stuff and do it on a daily basis, especially when it comes to calibration. Remember, Chevy went to Callaway in the 80's and said "Help us turbocharge" not the other way around.
Me take it personally? Seems quite the opposite, as you're the one calling me stupid and coming in here pounding your chest about how great you are. Maybe you're the .001% exception to the rule, your typical hobbyist is definitely not. Read a few articles on tuned Camaro's will tell you who has OEM quality work and who doesn't.
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
I can give you a forum vendor that charged someone over $30k for a TVS install with no wheels, badges, warranty, etc.
Read the entire thread - the guy spent "almost $30k" for a TVS, complete heads, cam, headers, complete fuel system, clutch, and 8 rib pulley setup. From his own admission he got more than he paid for because the last issues were of no fault of the vendors', but the vendor paid to ship the car then replaced the cooler and the evap core on his own dime. That's a done deal though, just wanted to clear that air, again! I've clearly stated my opinion, I'm done.