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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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I'm committing myself to a widebody kit as some of you know and eventually in the future there will be a 408 along with this twin turbo kit have (hoping to push ~850rwhp)

Theres always talk about how 1st-3rd is useless just because of traction.

Two things...

One- I do not want that, dead hook first is the goal.

Two- I want to fit the absolute widest tire on a vette

I'll get the 19" rears widened but it looks like the widest tire is on 21" rim that uses a 375 (according to tirerack.com)

I can tub the car myself which I plan on doing. With the wide body kit alone you can run a 345.

JETZ I know your tubbed with 345's, how much space did you gain from doing so?

I don't plan on putting slicks on because of their ability to drive in the rain(if I get caught in it) I didn't know if that's the widest tire that tirerack offers for sale.

I'm not some member wantin to put twenty-foh's on my whip lol

So this is a serious question

Thanks for the help in advance

And thanks JETZ for the pics you will most likely post (which I don't mind)
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Check out the M/T Sportsman SR.

Except they don't have any 19"s.
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I believe pirelli makes a 405 which is the widest i have heard of.
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Originally Posted by Lothar34
Check out the M/T Sportsman SR.

Except they don't have any 19"s.
I searched but I'm unfamiliar with how those sizes would look..

How about this?

http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompson/672/6625/10002/-1
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I believe pirelli makes a 405 which is the widest i have heard of.
I searched thru pirelli's website and couldn't find anything bigger than 345.
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dead hook first is the goal.


GO with a Drag Radial on a 15" rim

or at least a DR on a 17" rim

19 and 20s rims will not allow a tall side wall which you need for Dead Hook

Hoosier 18900 36.0/17.0-16 section width 21.7"

or

Hoosier QUICK TIME DOT 17210 33X22.50-15LT 15" rim and 21.7" wide

http://www.hoosiertire.com/Drtire.htm

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
dead hook first is the goal.


GO with a Drag Radial on a 15" rim

or at least a DR on a 17" rim

19 and 20s rims will not allow a tall side wall which you need for Dead Hook

Hoosier 18900 36.0/17.0-16 section width 21.7"

or

Hoosier QUICK TIME DOT 17210 33X22.50-15LT 15" rim and 21.7" wide

http://www.hoosiertire.com/Drtire.htm
I guess your saying to hook (not launching) but from a stop or a roll, I need a drag radial? I'd rather not go with a slick because there is a chance I may g ET caught in the rain. I would also be taking this car on long trips.

Thanks for the info. I forgot to ask for your help specifically in my first thread. Any other ideas?
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Originally Posted by TriplBlk
I searched but I'm unfamiliar with how those sizes would look..

How about this?

http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompson/672/6625/10002/-1
All the dimensions are listed with SAE measurements. If you find the details for a comparable 345/25/19 tire, they should also list stuff like teh section width and diamater (which is what the M/T site displays).
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Originally Posted by Lothar34
All the dimensions are listed with SAE measurements. If you find the details for a comparable 345/25/19 tire, they should also list stuff like teh section width and diamater (which is what the M/T site displays).
The tire I linked for you has a section width on 15.5"

I'm just wondering if the sidewall is huge.
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Originally Posted by TriplBlk
I searched thru pirelli's website and couldn't find anything bigger than 345.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:39 AM
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You beat me to it! That's the pic I was going to post!

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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:49 AM
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Here are some pics of the 405/25/24 on cars. Tires are so tall, even with the cars slammed they look like pickup truck height. I would never consider them!

The tub gains you about 3 inches if I remember correctly...well that's what she said!!!





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JETZ I knew you'd come in handy! Lol gain 3 inches. Thank you

I'm reli considering those M/T's I posted earlier. Can you checkvem out? Do the sizes look right to you? Pirelli is too big of a rim. Im really hoping these M/T's can fit.
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Originally Posted by TriplBlk
The tire I linked for you has a section width on 15.5"

I'm just wondering if the sidewall is huge.
29" is a pretty tall tire.

A (theoretical) 405/20/19 on the 19"s you have now would be only be about 25" tall. A 405/25/19 would be about 27".
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But sadly the 405/20/19's don't exist
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Direct bolton.
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Direct bolton.
I think you just want to post something bigger than them.

I'm gonna measure out the fender wells and see if that 29" M/T will fit well and look good.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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29" is pretty tall, about 3" taller than stock. Some drag guys run 28" tall tires that I've seen, and they fill out the entire wheel well. I know they sometimes have issues with rubbing too. 29" is probably out of the question without some work.

As far as dead hooking with 850rwhp but still having a tire for long trips and inclement weather - forget it. You're not gonna find a tire that can do both.

Dead hooking with 850rwhp is full slick territory. Reasonable traction would be a large drag radial.

Rain or long trips you're not gonna wanna run slicks or drag radials or anything of the sort. Even the most streetable drag radials (like Nittos) last fairly brief miles and generally are iffy at best in the rain (especially as they wear - which they do quickly). Nevermind the BFG and especially the MT drag radials - dangerous in bad weather.

Another option would be a sticky road race oriented tire like the Michelin pilot sport cups, pirelli corsa, nitto RII, toyo RA1s, etc.. They will hook better than any normal street tire, but obviously not as good as a drag oriented tire.

Personally I'd just run a big street tire (BFGs, Michelins, Pirellis etc in the 315+ range) for daily driving, bad weather, road trips, etc... Get another set of wheels for the slicks for the track when you need to hook. You're never gonna hook 850rwhp in 1st on the street anyway. Crap, I barely have over 400rwhp and I can't even hook with 335 KDW2s. With 850rwhp you'll spin the tires at highway speeds easily.

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29" is pretty tall, about 3" taller than stock. Some drag guys run 28" tall tires that I've seen, and they fill out the entire wheel well. I know they sometimes have issues with rubbing too. 29" is probably out of the question without some work.

As far as dead hooking with 850rwhp but still having a tire for long trips and inclement weather - forget it. You're not gonna find a tire that can do both.

Dead hooking with 850rwhp is full slick territory. Reasonable traction would be a large drag radial.

Rain or long trips you're not gonna wanna run slicks or drag radials or anything of the sort. Even the most streetable drag radials (like Nittos) last fairly brief miles and generally are iffy at best in the rain (especially as they wear - which they do quickly). Nevermind the BFG and especially the MT drag radials - dangerous in bad weather.

Another option would be a sticky road race oriented tire like the Michelin pilot sport cups, pirelli corsa, nitto RII, toyo RA1s, etc.. They will hook better than any normal street tire, but obviously not as good as a drag oriented tire.

Personally I'd just run a big street tire (BFGs, Michelins, Pirellis etc in the 315+ range) for daily driving, bad weather, road trips, etc... Get another set of wheels for the slicks for the track when you need to hook. You're never gonna hook 850rwhp in 1st on the street anyway. Crap, I barely have over 400rwhp and I can't even hook with 335 KDW2s. With 850rwhp you'll spin the tires at highway speeds easily.

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I use the term dead hook loosely. I don't drag at all. I just mean I want a tire that when I get on it, I'm not gonna be sliding 1st-3rd.

I'll prolly just go to 345's. Until something comes out for a 20" rim.

Thanks a lot Dope. That really cleared things up
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A 345/30r19 Nitto NT05R is about your best bet, it held 2nd in an ~700rwhp TT C6 I drove. The wider the tire the worse it is in the rain, as water can't escape out from under it and the less sipes it has the worse it will be as tires designed for grip usually have less. Hope this helps, Chris
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