View Poll Results: Which mod... Wheels or Headers?
Wheels
36
45.57%
Headers and tune
43
54.43%
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Which mod would you do? Wheels or Headers?
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13, '15, '16-'17-'18-'19
If you read my post carefully, I just stated that a tune for a couple hundred bucks will get you 15-20 HP without the headers anyway. So mathematically if you get 15 HP without the headers and 35 with the headers= 20HP difference the headers will make, which is exactly my point: 20 HP is not worth $1500 
I don't disagree with you with the HP gain combined.
I don't disagree with you with the HP gain combined.
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17,'19,'22
Headers. One of my fav mods. You will notice a big difference if you buy good ones like LG streets or super pros 
The sound is just completely different too. Love it!
The sound is just completely different too. Love it!
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St. Jude Donor '13
Thanks for clarifying. I don't quite understand, but got your point that time and its well made.
If you read my post carefully, I just stated that a tune for a couple hundred bucks will get you 15-20 HP without the headers anyway. So mathematically if you get 15 HP without the headers and 35 with the headers= 20HP difference the headers will make, which is exactly my point: 20 HP is not worth $1500
I don't disagree with you with the HP gain combined.
I don't disagree with you with the HP gain combined.
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I'm kinda leaning towards headers right now. I've already got polished thinspokes, so it's not like they're an ugly wheel, per say. Now, if I had wagon wheels, then I might be singing a different tune! 
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From: Palmdale, Ca----- 2009 Cyber Gray 4LT A6 F55 452 RWHP 422 RWTQ- RIP 1998 C5 734 RWHP & 585 RWTQ-----
Headers and a Tune now - it is the preliminary parts to any other performance upgrades and will yield a very noticeable smile on your face! 
Seriously do the Headers and Tune and that is because you want to be able to GO before the Show part!
Just MHO!
Thanks,Matt
Seriously do the Headers and Tune and that is because you want to be able to GO before the Show part!
Just MHO!
Thanks,Matt
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Ok. Do you plan on doing any performance mods to the car at all in the future. Yes, than get longtubes now as you will need them for really any gain later. Remember the car needs to breathe out what its breathing in. Wheels, yes they look great, but if you dont get a nice set, they will be heavier, thus hendering performance. How much $$$ you spend per horsepower, headers and tune is a great mod. If you dont like that 35 hp costs $1400, then dont go to the power levels that the H/C and FI guys go to either. The $$$ per horsepower ratio increases tremendously.
Longtubes wake the car up! Hell, you put the wheels on...others look at it and say "yup, thats nice....or sweeeet". However your not enjoying them because you are driving. Longtubes you can enjoy because your driving it and can feel the difference. people will also hear the exhaust note differently compared to stock.
JMHO
Not when driving.....
Longtubes wake the car up! Hell, you put the wheels on...others look at it and say "yup, thats nice....or sweeeet". However your not enjoying them because you are driving. Longtubes you can enjoy because your driving it and can feel the difference. people will also hear the exhaust note differently compared to stock.
JMHO
Not when driving.....
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Ok. Do you plan on doing any performance mods to the car at all in the future. Yes, than get longtubes now as you will need them for really any gain later. Remember the car needs to breathe out what its breathing in. Wheels, yes they look great, but if you dont get a nice set, they will be heavier, thus hendering performance. How much $$$ you spend per horsepower, headers and tune is a great mod. If you dont like that 35 hp costs $1400, then dont go to the power levels that the H/C and FI guys go to either. The $$$ per horsepower ratio increases tremendously.
Longtubes wake the car up! Hell, you put the wheels on...others look at it and say "yup, thats nice....or sweeeet". However your not enjoying them because you are driving. Longtubes you can enjoy because your driving it and can feel the difference. people will also hear the exhaust note differently compared to stock.
JMHO
Not when driving.....
Longtubes wake the car up! Hell, you put the wheels on...others look at it and say "yup, thats nice....or sweeeet". However your not enjoying them because you are driving. Longtubes you can enjoy because your driving it and can feel the difference. people will also hear the exhaust note differently compared to stock.
JMHO
Not when driving.....
Melting Slicks
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From: Lone Star State
Very good points! Thanks for the input! As far as future performance mods go, there is a possibility that I would do a cam down the road at some point, but it is definitely not high on my priority list right now. A cam would be it too. No heads or forced induction.
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From: Belleville Il
Headers!!! You already have Vararam and Corsa's,,headers complete the package and with all three I think you are going to be closer to 40-45 with a good tune..IMO thin spokes look pretty good to start with,,and with headers completing the package,,you will enjoy the results every time you step on the gas whereas you only see the wheels when it is sitting still. For me,,no contest!! C5bears fan has some quality American made stainless headers at a very affordable price,no need to go $1500-$2000!!
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From: New Baltimore Michigan
If you read my post carefully, I just stated that a tune for a couple hundred bucks will get you 15-20 HP without the headers anyway. So mathematically if you get 15 HP without the headers and 35 with the headers= 20HP difference the headers will make, which is exactly my point: 20 HP is not worth $1500
I don't disagree with you with the HP gain combined.
I don't disagree with you with the HP gain combined.
Steve
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From: Lone Star State
