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Race Director
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From: Winfield IN
I spent 36+ years in law enforcement and 90% of the felony arrests I made were the result of traffic stops for "nuisance" violations. I can count the number of "in progress" felony arrests I made on two hands, but I made many arrests for residential burglary, car burglary, weapons offenses, narcotics, sex offenses, etc., as a result of traffic stops. 
Pro
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 719
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From: Columbia South Carolina
To go out of your way to pull someone over for tint or no plate is lame. I understand if the car is speeding or doing something stupid and those citations come into play at the time. Also if the officer has a honest suspicion and uses the tint or plate to use as the reason to pull over the car I understand.Any REASON to stop you that is VALID,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,suspicious or not, whether you get the ticket or a warning. It's a crime fighting tactic. It was started in the 90's.
Basically it works like this, anything that is in the vehicle codes of laws that you violate and can be stopped for, do it. That way the drivers license can be checked and WOW!, Suspended, warrant, wanted, open container, drugs and the best, SOMEONE ABOUT TO COMMIT A CRIME.......get's stopped for something stupid and id'd, now they go home, without committing the crime. Maybe some one's life was saved.......................
Now if you drive with clear violations, then expect to be stopped. Go after murderers you say..............you never know who is in the car.
Just last week an officer in SC went to stop a suspicious car and was killed. ROUTINE STOP, yes, did she know that only hours earlier the driver had killed his girlfriend in another state and it was not discovered yet. And of course, there is the story of the serial killer in LI, NY who had a fresh body in the rear of his pickup and was stopped for a MINOR traffic infraction and was busted..................
So fine, you want to drive with violations and then complain about being stopped, go head. Pay the fine.
Pro
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Columbia South Carolina
Pro
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 719
Likes: 2
From: Columbia South Carolina
I spent 36+ years in law enforcement and 90% of the felony arrests I made were the result of traffic stops for "nuisance" violations. I can count the number of "in progress" felony arrests I made on two hands, but I made many arrests for residential burglary, car burglary, weapons offenses, narcotics, sex offenses, etc., as a result of traffic stops.
When I first moved to SC, I tried to get the department to go from checking property all night long, to pay attention to drivers..........Only after a few of us retired northern-nors came down and started to make QUALITY arrests on BS but legal car stops, did they start to listen.
I'm with you..............................
Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 866
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From: Iowa
Marine One & Devil II .... I with ya 100%. Many of these folks have no idea of "real world". You guys stay safe. Marine One .. tell your son to walk proud!
Safety Car
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 4,820
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From: Ravensdale WA
USDOT allows 35% on side windows and anything on the rear. Washington allows 35% all the way around except the windshield on pass cars and 35% on front sides and anything behind on trucks. My truck is Washington legal and I have been stopped in CA with WA plates. Since I live in WA and am DOT and WA legal don't you agree that is wrong? I keep a copy of the WA law and the DOT law in the truck and have not been ticketed yet. But they should never have stopped me.
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Burning Brakes
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From: North Topsail Beach NC
Race Director
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From: Northern Illinois
Oldtimer
So, please think before you speak badly about law enforcement. That cop might just be somebody's kid, somebody's brother or somebody's husband. The majority of them are out there doing a great job for low pay and because they really give a damn. And since I know the cop in question lurks here, let me just publicly state, we're damn proud of you, Son!
Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Huntington tx
I detest tax accessors. It's fundamentally retarded. Red light cameras in our town have increased rear end collisions and caused more injuries to it's citizens trying to comply with the private red light camera companies allocated time to cross intersections.
They say it helps prevent the deaths of victims from others who run red lights, BUT doesn't count the far greater numbers of broken bodies of victims who are rearended and the destruction of property generated by said red light cameras.
What happened to the good ole days when Police actually caught red light violators?
Link to data from municipalites noting increased collisions and injuries.
http://www.texastribune.org/library/...light-cameras/
They say it helps prevent the deaths of victims from others who run red lights, BUT doesn't count the far greater numbers of broken bodies of victims who are rearended and the destruction of property generated by said red light cameras.
What happened to the good ole days when Police actually caught red light violators?
Link to data from municipalites noting increased collisions and injuries.
http://www.texastribune.org/library/...light-cameras/
Last edited by sfc rick; Feb 3, 2012 at 07:49 AM.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Outer banks North Carolina
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2010
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From: North Topsail Beach NC
I flew out to Colorado last week to attend my nephew's graduation from the police academy. When I arrived, he asked that I and his wife pin his badge on, which was a great honor for me. He served in the military just like your son, and has wanted to be a police officer for years. I couldn't help but think how much he reminded me of myself when I was younger. He's intelligent, dedicated, and will be every bit of the police officer I was, and more. Police officers today have to put up with so much more than we did in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. I've talked with him every day to see how things are going with his FTO. I told him at the graduation how proud I am of him. The great thing is that there are still men and women out there who are willing to put their lives on the line every day for complete strangers. It doesn't get any better than that.
Race Director
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From: Northern Illinois
Oldtimer
Race Director
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From: No Where USA
Youll be complaining just fine as soon as you recieve a BS red light camera ticket. I got one a couple of months ago, my first ticket in about five or so years. Let me say that if you blatently go through a red light you deserve the ticket, period. However the cameras are there for revenue first, safety second. I notice that on red lights that cameras were recently installed that I traveled through for years that the yellow time was significantly reduced, therefore trapping most cars since there is not quite enogh time to stop without being rear ended. The ticket I got was for making a legal right on red. The problem was that I did not come to a complete stop before the line before proceeding with my turn. I actually did completely stop but my front wheels were over the line, therefore giving me the ticket. For 50 bucks it wasnt worth trying to fight as I would have lost anyway, but I find it very stressful driving this way. On Long Island the cameras are popping up at intersections almost daily and approching any green light is a chance of getting a ticket or slamming on your brakes as soon as the yellow comes on and hope your not rear ended. If anything they should increase the yellow time to give cars a better chance of not being ticketed and catch those who do blatently run the light given ample time to stop. Just my .02
I think those cameras are a danger, instead of going thru the yellow light I see people slamming on their brakes because they don't know how much time they have.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Outer banks North Carolina
Police are just human, some good [most of them] and some bad!
We certainly need them, especially now days with all the drugged out nut cases running around and I certainly wouldn't want their job! My wife has been with the police dept for 22 years [gun range-training acadamy so I am pretty familiar with the department. Like the wife says, Most are great people and some are "cowboys" or even criminals on rare occassions.
For Devildog from one veteran to another!
We certainly need them, especially now days with all the drugged out nut cases running around and I certainly wouldn't want their job! My wife has been with the police dept for 22 years [gun range-training acadamy so I am pretty familiar with the department. Like the wife says, Most are great people and some are "cowboys" or even criminals on rare occassions.
For Devildog
from one veteran to another!
Team Owner
Joined: Jan 2009
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From: Somewhere in Mo
St. Jude Donor '09-'10, '14
OK so let's just pull everyone over to make sure they aren't a criminal
Show me your papers boy.
Last edited by RetiredSFC 97; Feb 4, 2012 at 09:34 AM.
Team Owner
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From: Somewhere in Mo
St. Jude Donor '09-'10, '14
Anybody else here have a kid who's a cop? My only son, age 23, is a cop in a suburb of Washington DC. He's a good honest kid, a college graduate, just trying to do something to make a difference and make the world a little better instead of sitting in an office cubicle, picking his nose and staring at a computer screen 8 hours a day. Some here might think their window tint looks cool and cant understand why they get "hassled by the man" over it. I look at it as something that might be standing between my son and a criminal with a gun who, given a chance, will do him harm. Don't get me wrong, I've had my share of traffic tickets in my life, most of which I deserved. But there is a whole different side to this "cops are aholes" issue. I'm 56 years old, spent 30 years as a United States Marine, and am a veteran of three combat deployments, two to Iraq and one to Desert Storm. The last thing I want to have to do is bury my son because he gets blown away by some POS with tinted windows at a traffic stop.
So, please think before you speak badly about law enforcement. That cop might just be somebody's kid, somebody's brother or somebody's husband. The majority of them are out there doing a great job for low pay and because they really give a damn. And since I know the cop in question lurks here, let me just publicly state, we're damn proud of you, Son!
So, please think before you speak badly about law enforcement. That cop might just be somebody's kid, somebody's brother or somebody's husband. The majority of them are out there doing a great job for low pay and because they really give a damn. And since I know the cop in question lurks here, let me just publicly state, we're damn proud of you, Son!
And criminals in one state are more gentlemanly in other states and never assault a cop if they have tint. But in other states, tint will make everyone assault them.Sounds about right!
Last edited by RetiredSFC 97; Feb 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM.