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St. Jude Donor '09-'10, '14
First off, "Cops" don't write red light tickets. The cameras are installed maintained and monitored by a private company that works under contract with the city to record, review, and maintain the cameras, supply the film, and process the photographs. The company receives a small percentage of each red light fine collected. The tickets are sent out to the violators by the private company, based on the registered owner of the vehicle. It's been a while since I was involved with that program, but back then I believe it was about $15.00 per ticket that went to the private company and the remainder of the collected fines went to the city and state. I wrote the proposal when our traffic division made the presentation to our city council to install the cameras. The private company supplied the cameras, film, maintenance technicians, and they mailed out the tickets. Basically there was no cost to the city to go with this program.
The cameras were strategically placed at the intersections that had the highest rate of serious injury and fatal traffic collisions. This information was based on numerous traffic collision studies done by SWITERS (State Wide Intergraded Traffic Enforcement Reporting Studies) and our daily wall pin map tracking of the highest collision intersections within our city limits.
Vehicles making a right turn are not subjected at all to the red light camera sensors. The inductive sensors are place in the roadway to record only vehicles going straight through the intersection. The sensor picks up the speed and movement of the vehicle's front tires when the white "limit line" that's painted on the roadway is crossed by the vehicle's front wheels. The sensor activates only AFTER the light turns red. Vehicles that inter the intersection on the yellow or who are caught within the intersection on the yellow are NOT photographed.
The cameras were strategically placed at the intersections that had the highest rate of serious injury and fatal traffic collisions. This information was based on numerous traffic collision studies done by SWITERS (State Wide Intergraded Traffic Enforcement Reporting Studies) and our daily wall pin map tracking of the highest collision intersections within our city limits.
Vehicles making a right turn are not subjected at all to the red light camera sensors. The inductive sensors are place in the roadway to record only vehicles going straight through the intersection. The sensor picks up the speed and movement of the vehicle's front tires when the white "limit line" that's painted on the roadway is crossed by the vehicle's front wheels. The sensor activates only AFTER the light turns red. Vehicles that inter the intersection on the yellow or who are caught within the intersection on the yellow are NOT photographed.
So we have corporations making money off our driving habits. It's ****ing pathetic.
But I guess we might catch a thief by looking at evryone as a criminal.
It worked pretty well in **** germany and then very well in Communist Russia.
Works well in the muslim countries too from what I understand.
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Reread my post, I said buckle up in your stroller.
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10, '14
One last thought here.
So cops are afraid they will be assaulted when pulling someone over that has tint, so they pull them over to write them a ticket for having tint!!
A lot of thought had to go into that logic.
Look this is the deal. LEO's have a thankless job. They get hammered all the time for things they do and don't do. I have no issue with them writing people tickets for things that are blatantly against the law and are dangerous for other drivers on the road. But some things they write tickets for is just a show of authority that have absolutely nothing to do with public safety.
it's like this. You are here to try and protect the citizens of your community, not to act like the gestapo and enforce BS laws that are made up to generate revenue. I know you have a job to do and it's a balancing act. Just try to remember what your real responsibilities are and that's to protect the public, not harrass the public for something childish.
Like a rolling stop when there is no one around the intersection. Good lord.
So cops are afraid they will be assaulted when pulling someone over that has tint, so they pull them over to write them a ticket for having tint!!A lot of thought had to go into that logic.
Look this is the deal. LEO's have a thankless job. They get hammered all the time for things they do and don't do. I have no issue with them writing people tickets for things that are blatantly against the law and are dangerous for other drivers on the road. But some things they write tickets for is just a show of authority that have absolutely nothing to do with public safety.
it's like this. You are here to try and protect the citizens of your community, not to act like the gestapo and enforce BS laws that are made up to generate revenue. I know you have a job to do and it's a balancing act. Just try to remember what your real responsibilities are and that's to protect the public, not harrass the public for something childish.
Like a rolling stop when there is no one around the intersection. Good lord.
Last edited by RetiredSFC 97; Feb 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM.
Le Mans Master
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Dang Sarge, would you be against pulling over someone with a vehicle that is overloaded? Cops are trained (just like soldiers) to observe certain things that raise suspicions. Pulling someone over for tints may be the legal reason, but some other "tell" might be the real reason for the stiop.
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Oldtimer
One last thought here.
So cops are afraid they will be assaulted when pulling someone over that has tint, so they pull them over to write them a ticket for having tint!!
A lot of thought had to go into that logic.
Look this is the deal. LEO's have a thankless job. They get hammered all the time for things they do and don't do. I have no issue with them writing people tickets for things that are blatantly against the law and are dangerous for other drivers on the road. But some things they write tickets for is just a show of authority that have absolutely nothing to do with public safety.
it's like this. You are here to try and protect the citizens of your community, not to act like the gestapo and enforce BS laws that are made up to generate revenue. I know you have a job to do and it's a balancing act. Just try to remember what your real responsibilities are and that's to protect the public, not harrass the public for something childish.
Like a rolling stop when there is no one around the intersection. Good lord.
So cops are afraid they will be assaulted when pulling someone over that has tint, so they pull them over to write them a ticket for having tint!!A lot of thought had to go into that logic.
Look this is the deal. LEO's have a thankless job. They get hammered all the time for things they do and don't do. I have no issue with them writing people tickets for things that are blatantly against the law and are dangerous for other drivers on the road. But some things they write tickets for is just a show of authority that have absolutely nothing to do with public safety.
it's like this. You are here to try and protect the citizens of your community, not to act like the gestapo and enforce BS laws that are made up to generate revenue. I know you have a job to do and it's a balancing act. Just try to remember what your real responsibilities are and that's to protect the public, not harrass the public for something childish.
Like a rolling stop when there is no one around the intersection. Good lord.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
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But you have to laugh at the irony of that law. No front windows can be tinted. But the rear doors can? All SUVs have rear windows tinted. The danger is still there. Its up to better training in the academy such as requesting all windows to be down before approaching vehicle.
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St. Jude Donor '13
If cops are afraid to approach cars then maybe they chose the wrong career? Don't see any Plummers, electricians, car salesmen, etc. scared to do their job. I would have thrown in mailmen but THEY scare the crap out of me going postal and all.
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Oldtimer
I've never been afraid of plummers, but plumbers do frighten me. 
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St. Jude Donor '11
No Escort 9500xi in VA
That will get you another ticket, or a separate ticket because they have detector detector's that can tell if you have one on as you drive by.
So while we have detector detectors, someone now needs to invent a detector detector detector!
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From: Lacombe Louisiana
One last thought here.
So cops are afraid they will be assaulted when pulling someone over that has tint, so they pull them over to write them a ticket for having tint!!
A lot of thought had to go into that logic.
Look this is the deal. LEO's have a thankless job. They get hammered all the time for things they do and don't do. I have no issue with them writing people tickets for things that are blatantly against the law and are dangerous for other drivers on the road. But some things they write tickets for is just a show of authority that have absolutely nothing to do with public safety.
it's like this. You are here to try and protect the citizens of your community, not to act like the gestapo and enforce BS laws that are made up to generate revenue. I know you have a job to do and it's a balancing act. Just try to remember what your real responsibilities are and that's to protect the public, not harrass the public for something childish.
Like a rolling stop when there is no one around the intersection. Good lord.
So cops are afraid they will be assaulted when pulling someone over that has tint, so they pull them over to write them a ticket for having tint!!A lot of thought had to go into that logic.
Look this is the deal. LEO's have a thankless job. They get hammered all the time for things they do and don't do. I have no issue with them writing people tickets for things that are blatantly against the law and are dangerous for other drivers on the road. But some things they write tickets for is just a show of authority that have absolutely nothing to do with public safety.
it's like this. You are here to try and protect the citizens of your community, not to act like the gestapo and enforce BS laws that are made up to generate revenue. I know you have a job to do and it's a balancing act. Just try to remember what your real responsibilities are and that's to protect the public, not harrass the public for something childish.
Like a rolling stop when there is no one around the intersection. Good lord.
Melting Slicks
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I got pulled over the other day. The cop had been following me for a while until he got out and came up to my car and said...
"License and registeration Sir".
(I handed him my information)
He says "Sit tight. I'll be back in a moment".
After waiting for a few mintues, the officer returns and says
"Son, I've been following you for the last few miles and do you know why I pulled you over?"
No, officer. I do not. Did I do something wrong?
"No you didn't. However, do you have a PERMIT FOR THOSE GUNS **FLEXES**
"License and registeration Sir".
(I handed him my information)
He says "Sit tight. I'll be back in a moment".
After waiting for a few mintues, the officer returns and says
"Son, I've been following you for the last few miles and do you know why I pulled you over?"
No, officer. I do not. Did I do something wrong?
"No you didn't. However, do you have a PERMIT FOR THOSE GUNS **FLEXES**
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '13
That brings up a toy a friend of mine has. A radar detector tester. Looks like a garage door remote. Point it at a detector and if it goes off its working. Imagine the fun we had driving down the road making people stomp their brakes for no reason
