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Old May 12, 2012 | 10:16 AM
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Is it possible he said it has the same engine block?
There is a difference between the standard LS1 block and the LS6 block. All that information is in the link that I posted above.
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Old May 12, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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Old May 12, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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There is quite a bit of confusion on this. Several sources say that GM switched the LS1 to the same block as the LS6 in mid 2001 and that the blocks are the same from that point on. Here are a couple of more threads on the subject that will add to the confusion:


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...ls6-block.html

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f4/i-...145#post294145

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Old May 12, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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I was just looking at the specs yesterday.

LS1: A319 T5, 107#
Displacement = 5.7 L. / 346 CID
Bore x Stroke = 99mm x 92mm / 3.90" x 3.62"
Compression Ratio = 10.1:1
Horsepower = 345/350 HP @ 5,200 RPM
Torque = 350/375 #-Ft. @ 4,400 RPM
Redline = 6,000 RPM
Fuel Cut OFF = 6,200 RPM.

LS6:
Displacement = 5.7 L. / 346 CID
Bore x Stroke = 99mm x 92mm / 3.90" x 3.62"
Compression Ratio = 10.5:1
Horsepower = 385/405 HP @ 6,000 RPM
Torque = 385/400 #-Ft. @ 4,800 RPM
RedLine = 6,500 RPM
Fuel Cut OFF = 6,600 RPM
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Old May 12, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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Hum, after reading all this info I have come to the conclusion that a ls1 can be moded and beefed up as high as a ls6 can as it appears Block displacements are the same. Meaning, I can cam, heads, and exhaust my ls1 and run with ANY ls6.
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Old May 12, 2012 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixiecrat
Hum, after reading all this info I have come to the conclusion that a ls1 can be moded and beefed up as high as a ls6 can as it appears Block displacements are the same. Meaning, I can cam, heads, and exhaust my ls1
and run with ANY ls6.
"ANY"??? I don't think so.
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Old May 12, 2012 | 12:54 PM
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By the way I showed the machanic these pages and he still argues the differances are so minute there basically the same. Told me I could buy a chip and run with the best of em for thousands less. But I think I ll do my exhaust and start from there.
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Old May 12, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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"any"??? I don't think so.
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Old May 12, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinister-Z
"ANY"??? I don't think so.
The point is really that the things that made the LS6 different to the LS1 are all the thing you modify on either the LS1 or LS6 from the get go.

IOW once you swap cam and heads all bets are off. You will normally at a minimum do headers, intake, air filter and tune to go along with the new cam and heads so the LS1/LS6 difference become moot at that point.

Now unless the LS1 owner changes out tyres, wheels, shocks, sway bars and brake pads the new "powerful LS1" car is still going to struggle to run and gun with the C5Z06 anywhere outside of a drag strip or freeway roll on.

And the stopping, turning and acceleration of the C5Z is actually what differentiates it from the C coupe and vert

Originally Posted by Dixiecrat
By the way I showed the machanic these pages and he still argues the differances are so minute there basically the same. Told me I could buy a chip and run with the best of em for thousands less. But I think I ll do my exhaust and start from there.
Stay away for this person.

There is no 'chip to buy' for the LSx stup - they can be tuned, by competent tuners, but there is no 'chip' that is going to do anything meaningful.

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Old May 12, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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True That !
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Old May 12, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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Wow, and to think so many have spent so much on modding an LS1 to run with a ZO6 when a chip could have done it.

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Old May 12, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixiecrat
By the way I showed the machanic these pages and he still argues the differances are so minute there basically the same. Told me I could buy a chip and run with the best of em for thousands less. But I think I ll do my exhaust and start from there.
Wish I would have known about this "Chip" before I purchased my Z and a supercharger.
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Old May 12, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RaW Z06
Wish I would have known about this "Chip" before I purchased my Z and a supercharger.
That'll teach you to pay more attention! A "Chip" and "fuel line magnet" will add 100hp.......
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Old May 12, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sfc rick
That'll teach you to pay more attention! A "Chip" and "fuel line magnet" will add 100hp.......
Damn! Missed the "fuel line magnet" too......

I could have saved thousands.

Silly me, I never should have listened to those A&A people.

What was I thinking????
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Old May 12, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixiecrat
By the way I showed the machanic these pages and he still argues the differances are so minute there basically the same. Told me I could buy a chip and run with the best of em for thousands less. But I think I ll do my exhaust and start from there.
The secret is out!!!!!

Please tell me where I can get one of those "Chips" for my car, I need to run with the best of them!

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Old May 12, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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"The LS6 shares its basic block architecture with the GM LS1 engine, but other changes were made to the design such as windows cast into the block between cylinders, improved main web strength and bay to bay breathing, an intake manifold and MAF-sensor with higher flow, a camshaft with higher lift and more duration, a higher compression ratio of 10.5:1, sodium filled valves, and a revised oiling system better suited to high lateral acceleration."
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Old May 12, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg
The secret is out!!!!!

Please tell me where I can get one of those "Chips" for my car, I need to run with the best of them!






you would say that.
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Originally Posted by Dixiecrat
I had a machanic tell me that the LS1 and the ZO6 are the exact same engine. He said they have the same pistons, crank, heads, cam. He said the only differance was in the timeing. Tell me this aint so !
This ******guy!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Dixiecrat
I had a machanic tell me that the LS1 and the ZO6 are the exact same engine. He said they have the same pistons, crank, heads, cam. He said the only differance was in the timeing. Tell me this aint so !
This *******guy!!!!!:withstupid :
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Old May 12, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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chips??? potatoe chips ?? yep find a new mechanic fast !!!!!
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