Tire issues!!
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Racer
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From: Seymour Indiana
Tire issues!!
I'm having some issues with getting tire combos to match up. I have a 2001 with magnetic ride so I have to keep .5" to 1.5" rake and that's where te problem is. I can't get te tires I want and stay with in those specs. Can I go over just a lil bit say .5" or will it seriously cause problems.
Drifting
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.5" seems to be the bottom limit where it becomes a hit or miss... Some people have issues and some people don't. Personally, I wouldn't take the chance.
What tires are you looking at?
PS. It's not magnetic ride that causes an issue, it's the traction control/active handling. You have a 2001, and therefore don't even have magnetic ride.
What tires are you looking at?
PS. It's not magnetic ride that causes an issue, it's the traction control/active handling. You have a 2001, and therefore don't even have magnetic ride.
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Magnetic Ride wasn't available until 2003. You may have F45 (RTD) with the select button for ride control, but that is not your issue. You need to keep the overall tire diameter as close to 1" taller in the rear as you can to prevent active handling/traction control errors. I would not personally try .5" difference, that's at the limit. Some have done it with success, or at least intermittent success.
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Racer
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Magnetic Ride wasn't available until 2003. You may have F45 (RTD) with the select button for ride control, but that is not your issue. You need to keep the overall tire diameter as close to 1" taller in the rear as you can to prevent active handling/traction control errors. I would not personally try .5" difference, that's at the limit. Some have done it with success, or at least intermittent success.
I meant going .5" over the 1.5" max
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You're right, the total 2" difference will cause you lots of problems. You're going to have to adjust something in your size preference.
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The difference in tire diameters is to keep the traction control/active handling systems happy. The car's computer "reads" the wheel speeds, and expects to see a predetermined difference between the front and rear tires. If this ratio is exceeded, generally with rear tires that are "too small" compared to the front, the car interprets this as wheelspin, and acts accordingly, in order to eliminate it.
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I know what you're trying to accomplish, but I'd like to try and clarify something here. The "rake" you refer to is primarily a ride height adjustment, where the rear of the car is slightly higher that the front, to keep more air pressing on the hood of the car, rather than allowing air under the car, and causing "lift".
The difference in tire diameters is to keep the traction control/active handling systems happy. The car's computer "reads" the wheel speeds, and expects to see a predetermined difference between the front and rear tires. If this ratio is exceeded, generally with rear tires that are "too small" compared to the front, the car interprets this as wheelspin, and acts accordingly, in order to eliminate it.
The difference in tire diameters is to keep the traction control/active handling systems happy. The car's computer "reads" the wheel speeds, and expects to see a predetermined difference between the front and rear tires. If this ratio is exceeded, generally with rear tires that are "too small" compared to the front, the car interprets this as wheelspin, and acts accordingly, in order to eliminate it.
with a 27.1" diameter and that will drop down to a 1.6" diameter difference with the rears being taller. regardless they are all over the 1.5" max.
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. Just trying to make the best out of what I have. Eventually I will get the wheels widened to 12" In the rear so i can run 345's and 10" I'm the front. Also I like being different than other people, so stock size wheels are a no go
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If you have a rear tire that is 0.5" larger (or more) than the front you should be fine.
A friend of mine is running the following and had not reported any issues.
285/30/19 = 25.8"
305/30/19 = 26.3"
Rear tire is 0.5" larger in diameter.
Another friend of mine is running a 275/35/18 front, and a 345/30/19.
He has never had an issue with Active handling or traction control he reports.
275/35/18 - 25.6"
345/30/19 - 27.2"
Rear tire is 1.6" larger in diameter.
Its always best/safer to try to stay close to Stock OEM numbers though:
Stock Coupe/Vert = 1.0" larger rear tire
Stock Z06 = 0.7" larger rear tire.
Its been my belief that you will run into issues with TC/Active handling if your rear tire diameter is close to, or smaller than your front tire diameter.
Your car knows the diameters of your tires, and expects that your rear tire will turn less rotations than your front tire. If it senses that your rear tire is turning more rotations than your front tire it thinks your "spinning" and turns on TC.
I have always wondered about how much larger you can go on the rear tire though before it effects your AC / TC. My friends car above at 1.6" larger rear tire does not seem to have any issues. How large a rear tire can you go before Issues ? That is the question.
Toque
A friend of mine is running the following and had not reported any issues.
285/30/19 = 25.8"
305/30/19 = 26.3"
Rear tire is 0.5" larger in diameter.
Another friend of mine is running a 275/35/18 front, and a 345/30/19.
He has never had an issue with Active handling or traction control he reports.
275/35/18 - 25.6"
345/30/19 - 27.2"
Rear tire is 1.6" larger in diameter.
Its always best/safer to try to stay close to Stock OEM numbers though:
Stock Coupe/Vert = 1.0" larger rear tire
Stock Z06 = 0.7" larger rear tire.
Its been my belief that you will run into issues with TC/Active handling if your rear tire diameter is close to, or smaller than your front tire diameter.
Your car knows the diameters of your tires, and expects that your rear tire will turn less rotations than your front tire. If it senses that your rear tire is turning more rotations than your front tire it thinks your "spinning" and turns on TC.
I have always wondered about how much larger you can go on the rear tire though before it effects your AC / TC. My friends car above at 1.6" larger rear tire does not seem to have any issues.
How large a rear tire can you go before Issues ? That is the question. Toque
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From: Wylie TX --> Less is More, except under the hood !
Ask "rdline" about what tire sizes he runs. They look rather large...
Toque