[Z06] Short Throw Shifter debate
Melting Slicks
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From: NS
Racer
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From: naples fl.
Reverse is always hard depending where things are in the tranny. Just move the car slightly in any forward gear and go directly to reverse and it'll go right in.
Aside from the custom shifters you're talking about ( I have a B&M ) try changing your oil in the gearbox. I was amazed how dirty mine looked and I swear it got smoother when I put new fluid in. Synthetic of course.
If you really want a smooth shifting z get a 2008 or newer. I drove my brothers and was amazed how improved the tranny was.
Aside from the custom shifters you're talking about ( I have a B&M ) try changing your oil in the gearbox. I was amazed how dirty mine looked and I swear it got smoother when I put new fluid in. Synthetic of course.
If you really want a smooth shifting z get a 2008 or newer. I drove my brothers and was amazed how improved the tranny was.
Racer
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From: Winnetka, CA
You don't even have to do that. Blip the throttle with the transmission in neutral and the clutch out, then you can engage reverse. You just need to get the input shaft moved so the gear teeth can mesh with the idler.
Racer
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From: Bucks county PA
Love my rsd. Very smooth not really knotchy feeling. Easy install. Occasionally reverse is a bugger but the big Hurst shifter ball may be the culprit. Also look at the anti venom mod once you choose your shifter.
Melting Slicks
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From: Conejo Valley CA
I currently have an 03 Z with ... and a Hurst Shifter of which I am very unimpressed with... let me tell you what I dont like about the Hurst;
1. Sometimes it will not go into gear unless I let out the clutch a bit.
2. Very Notchy .
3. Has a lot of road noise vibration.
4. Stiff shifts.
5. I missed 3rd on a couple occasions and at other times notice some gears hard to find.
6. Reverse takes an arm to engage
What do you guys think?
1. Sometimes it will not go into gear unless I let out the clutch a bit.
2. Very Notchy .
3. Has a lot of road noise vibration.
4. Stiff shifts.
5. I missed 3rd on a couple occasions and at other times notice some gears hard to find.
6. Reverse takes an arm to engage
What do you guys think?
The use of the Hurst can be described this way...and I had to figure this out after I first got my car. When standing by itself, you can go straight up and down for 3rd and 4th. If you want first or second, you apply some pressure to the left and then move to the gear. Same for 5 and 6 except applying a some pressure to the right. Once I figured this out, it made the shifting much much easier and enjoyable.
It's actually funny because I have used the Hurst for so long (about 7 years), normal stick shifts in all other cars feel very loose to me and the excursion between gears feels like a mile.
Sorry didn't mean to derail this thread, just wanted to add my 2 cents on the shifter and hope the OP finds an alternate shifter he likes.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Virginia Beach Virginia
All Awesome points I will try your style Z06ster. SO far after removing a couple springs it is not too bad. I dont think the Textralia clutch helps matters either.
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I installed the TPS 427x in my Z16 two years ago and have been very happy. The stock shifter seemed so loose and sloppy. I drove a car with the Hurst and thought it was too stiff for my taste. This is a shortened C6 ZO6 shifter with the classic white ball. TPS is a fourm vendor, this photo is my own car.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Virginia Beach Virginia
[QUOTE=RAMMAN;1583348245]I installed the TPS 427x in my Z16 two years ago and have been very happy. The stock shifter seemed so loose and sloppy. I drove a car with the Hurst and thought it was too stiff for my taste. This is a shortened C6 ZO6 shifter with the classic white ball. TPS is a fourm vendor, this photo is my own car.
How much was it?
How much was it?
Burning Brakes
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I'm running RSD "Snap Shifter" with C6 ****
Highly recommended. If you decide to go with RSD make sure to go with c6 know day and night diffrece!!!
heres a video stock vs rsd (not sure why is it double posting)
RSD with c6 ****
RSD Shifter
http://www.racespecialtydesigns.com/...0&bestseller=Y
C6 ****
http://www.gscreationsllc.com/produc...roducts_id/590
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Highly recommended. If you decide to go with RSD make sure to go with c6 know day and night diffrece!!!
heres a video stock vs rsd (not sure why is it double posting)
RSD with c6 ****
RSD Shifter
http://www.racespecialtydesigns.com/...0&bestseller=Y
C6 ****
http://www.gscreationsllc.com/produc...roducts_id/590
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Burning Brakes
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From: Virginia Beach Virginia
[QUOTE=2003corvettez06;1583379700]I'm running RSD "Snap Shifter" with C6 ****
Highly recommended. If you decide to go with RSD make sure to go with c6 know day and night diffrece!!!
Damn you for showing me this!!!! Now I want it.
Highly recommended. If you decide to go with RSD make sure to go with c6 know day and night diffrece!!!
Damn you for showing me this!!!! Now I want it.
Burning Brakes
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Race Director
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St. Jude Donor '16 thru '26
I installed the TPS 427x in my Z16 two years ago and have been very happy. The stock shifter seemed so loose and sloppy. I drove a car with the Hurst and thought it was too stiff for my taste. This is a shortened C6 ZO6 shifter with the classic white ball. TPS is a fourm vendor, this photo is my own car.
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Safety Car
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From: Da U.P.
I can't speak to the aftermarket shifters, I just know that my C6 shifter is a whole lot better than the set of boat oars it replaced. Spices up the interior a little too since everything is black on black on black.
Racer
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From: naples fl.
It sounds as though some on here don't know that all 4,5, or 6 speed transmissions are centered on 3rd and 4th gear when in neutral. The reason is obvious because when shifting from 2nd to 3rd you don't have to think you just push forward and it automatically goes to 3rd instead of back into 1st which could cause an over rev of the engine. The same is true when going from 3rd to 4th so you don't accidentally go back to 2nd gear.
When downshifting from 5th to 4th this is also true. No real pressure is required leftward. Just pulling backward without actually directing toward 6th will get you into 4th.
This is true regardless of what shifter you choose to install because its designed into the tranny. Just sayin
When downshifting from 5th to 4th this is also true. No real pressure is required leftward. Just pulling backward without actually directing toward 6th will get you into 4th.
This is true regardless of what shifter you choose to install because its designed into the tranny. Just sayin
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Burning Brakes
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From: Virginia Beach Virginia
It sounds as though some on here don't know that all 4,5, or 6 speed transmissions are centered on 3rd and 4th gear when in neutral. The reason is obvious because when shifting from 2nd to 3rd you don't have to think you just push forward and it automatically goes to 3rd instead of back into 1st which could cause an over rev of the engine. The same is true when going from 3rd to 4th so you don't accidentally go back to 2nd gear.
When downshifting from 5th to 4th this is also true. No real pressure is required leftward. Just pulling backward without actually directing toward 6th will get you into 4th.
This is true regardless of what shifter you choose to install because its designed into the tranny. Just sayin
When downshifting from 5th to 4th this is also true. No real pressure is required leftward. Just pulling backward without actually directing toward 6th will get you into 4th.
This is true regardless of what shifter you choose to install because its designed into the tranny. Just sayin
Drifting
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You guys correct me if I am wrong, but the throw of the shifter is only shorter because the handle is shorter. For the transmission to be engaged the lower portion inside the tranny still has to travel the same distance. The throw just seems shorter because the handle is shorter and thus doesn't travel as far. The shifting mechanisms which fit into the tranny still travel the same distance with each shift.
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Burning Brakes
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You guys correct me if I am wrong, but the throw of the shifter is only shorter because the handle is shorter. For the transmission to be engaged the lower portion inside the tranny still has to travel the same distance. The throw just seems shorter because the handle is shorter and thus doesn't travel as far. The shifting mechanisms which fit into the tranny still travel the same distance with each shift.
