[Z06] Short Throw Shifter debate
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Aug 2009
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From: Virginia Beach Virginia
Short Throw Shifter debate
I currently have an 03 Z with minor bolt ons, LG pro's/Corsa Extreme, Black Wing CAI , Textralia OZ700 clutch package, HS trunion upgrade, Comp Cams Beehive's and an ECS tune. Installed is the stock C5 Shift Box and a Hurst Shifter of which I am very unimpressed with.
I have been considering 3 options, but let me tell you what I dont like about the Hurst;
1. Sometimes it will not go into gear unless I let out the clutch a bit.
2. Very Notchy .
3. Has a lot of road noise vibration.
4. Stiff shifts.
5. I missed 3rd on a couple occasions and at other times notice some gears hard to find.
6. Reverse takes an arm to engage
What I want;
1. I want smooth butter smooth shifts with a simple click
2. Easy gear location
3. Directed shifts 1-2-3-4.
4. I dont want reverse to be a Bit@#
5. I would like for my wife to be able to drive this, as she also loves a sports car..
So my current choices are
MGW
Kirban Kwik
RSD Snap.....leaning towards this one..
What do you guys think?
I have been considering 3 options, but let me tell you what I dont like about the Hurst;
1. Sometimes it will not go into gear unless I let out the clutch a bit.
2. Very Notchy .
3. Has a lot of road noise vibration.
4. Stiff shifts.
5. I missed 3rd on a couple occasions and at other times notice some gears hard to find.
6. Reverse takes an arm to engage
What I want;
1. I want smooth butter smooth shifts with a simple click
2. Easy gear location
3. Directed shifts 1-2-3-4.
4. I dont want reverse to be a Bit@#
5. I would like for my wife to be able to drive this, as she also loves a sports car..
So my current choices are
MGW
Kirban Kwik
RSD Snap.....leaning towards this one..
What do you guys think?
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,355
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From: Los Angeles
I drive the MGW with a 1/8" detent bolt spacer - a combo that works well for me. But, if driveability by my girlfriend was a primary concern, I'd go with the RSD Snap instead.
EDIT: The more I read about the Kirban, the more it also sounds like a good option. They claim 20% shorter shifts than stock, but the handle is only 1/2" shorter. Since the leverarm isn't cut down much, shifts should still be relatively easy.
EDIT: The more I read about the Kirban, the more it also sounds like a good option. They claim 20% shorter shifts than stock, but the handle is only 1/2" shorter. Since the leverarm isn't cut down much, shifts should still be relatively easy.
Last edited by skyavonee; Mar 8, 2013 at 05:11 PM.
Racer
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 301
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From: Endicott NY
I currently have an 03 Z with minor bolt ons, LG pro's/Corsa Extreme, Black Wing CAI , Textralia OZ700 clutch package, HS trunion upgrade, Comp Cams Beehive's and an ECS tune. Installed is the stock C5 Shift Box and a Hurst Shifter of which I am very unimpressed with.
I have been considering 3 options, but let me tell you what I dont like about the Hurst;
1. Sometimes it will not go into gear unless I let out the clutch a bit.
2. Very Notchy .
3. Has a lot of road noise vibration.
4. Stiff shifts.
5. I missed 3rd on a couple occasions and at other times notice some gears hard to find.
6. Reverse takes an arm to engage
What I want;
1. I want smooth butter smooth shifts with a simple click
2. Easy gear location
3. Directed shifts 1-2-3-4.
4. I dont want reverse to be a Bit@#
5. I would like for my wife to be able to drive this, as she also loves a sports car..
So my current choices are
MGW
Kirban Kwik
RSD Snap.....leaning towards this one..
What do you guys think?
I have been considering 3 options, but let me tell you what I dont like about the Hurst;
1. Sometimes it will not go into gear unless I let out the clutch a bit.
2. Very Notchy .
3. Has a lot of road noise vibration.
4. Stiff shifts.
5. I missed 3rd on a couple occasions and at other times notice some gears hard to find.
6. Reverse takes an arm to engage
What I want;
1. I want smooth butter smooth shifts with a simple click
2. Easy gear location
3. Directed shifts 1-2-3-4.
4. I dont want reverse to be a Bit@#
5. I would like for my wife to be able to drive this, as she also loves a sports car..
So my current choices are
MGW
Kirban Kwik
RSD Snap.....leaning towards this one..
What do you guys think?
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 816
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From: Virginia Beach Virginia
Thanks for the comments, So I thought the RSD was a C6Z Shifter cut down and threaded for a shifter ****?
Now I am thinking about doing that, I did this with my old FRC and I think the shifts were better, but I cant remember.
The Kirban sucked in my FRC but in 2 of my friends Z06's it was killer smooth.
So I wonder if the C6 shift box with a Kirban would be the best option........hmmm
Now I am thinking about doing that, I did this with my old FRC and I think the shifts were better, but I cant remember.
The Kirban sucked in my FRC but in 2 of my friends Z06's it was killer smooth.
So I wonder if the C6 shift box with a Kirban would be the best option........hmmm
Pro
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 595
Likes: 40
From: Harrisonburg Virginia
Thanks for the comments, So I thought the RSD was a C6Z Shifter cut down and threaded for a shifter ****?
Now I am thinking about doing that, I did this with my old FRC and I think the shifts were better, but I cant remember.
The Kirban sucked in my FRC but in 2 of my friends Z06's it was killer smooth.
So I wonder if the C6 shift box with a Kirban would be the best option........hmmm
Now I am thinking about doing that, I did this with my old FRC and I think the shifts were better, but I cant remember.
The Kirban sucked in my FRC but in 2 of my friends Z06's it was killer smooth.
So I wonder if the C6 shift box with a Kirban would be the best option........hmmm
threaded shifter. If you like the C6 shifter but want a slightly shorter
throw, this will work well for you. You won't get the ultra precise, ultra
close gated feel but you will also not have the heaviness, notchyness,
or vibration/rattle that many of the aftermarket shifters exhibit. It really
does depend on your personal preferences.
On a side note. A special thanks should be given to MGW for the
incredibly good installation video provided on their web site. If their
shifter had not been a bit heavy for my taste, that video alone would
have been enough to push me to buy their excellent quality product.
Wayne
Intermediate
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: New Smyrna Beach Florida
Installed my MGW Shifter last weekend! It is a superb addition to my car. The instructional video made it very simple to do. In the video it stated that some guys where able to muscle the stock **** down to the second hole. Do not try that!! The washer gets in the way. The only way to get it to the second hole is to remove that washer from the shifter before re-installing the console and somehow remove the notch inside the factory **** that stops the **** on the shifter. Otherwise it works awesome! I do recomend it to anyone thinking of doing this easy project!!!
Team Owner
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 43,084
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From: Raleigh / Rolesville NC
What I want;
1. I want smooth butter smooth shifts with a simple click
2. Easy gear location
3. Directed shifts 1-2-3-4.
4. I dont want reverse to be a Bit@#
5. I would like for my wife to be able to drive this, as she also loves a sports car..
1. I want smooth butter smooth shifts with a simple click
2. Easy gear location
3. Directed shifts 1-2-3-4.
4. I dont want reverse to be a Bit@#
5. I would like for my wife to be able to drive this, as she also loves a sports car..
a longer shift lever makes shifting easier.
shifting the M6 or M12 is not one simple click, but two clicks: out of gear to neutral ( one click) neutral to next gear ( second click)
Burning Brakes
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 831
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From: Houston Texas
I currently have an 03 Z with minor bolt ons, LG pro's/Corsa Extreme, Black Wing CAI , Textralia OZ700 clutch package, HS trunion upgrade, Comp Cams Beehive's and an ECS tune. Installed is the stock C5 Shift Box and a Hurst Shifter of which I am very unimpressed with.
I have been considering 3 options, but let me tell you what I dont like about the Hurst;
1. Sometimes it will not go into gear unless I let out the clutch a bit.
2. Very Notchy .
3. Has a lot of road noise vibration.
4. Stiff shifts.
5. I missed 3rd on a couple occasions and at other times notice some gears hard to find.
6. Reverse takes an arm to engage
What I want;
1. I want smooth butter smooth shifts with a simple click
2. Easy gear location
3. Directed shifts 1-2-3-4.
4. I dont want reverse to be a Bit@#
5. I would like for my wife to be able to drive this, as she also loves a sports car..
So my current choices are
MGW
Kirban Kwik
RSD Snap.....leaning towards this one..
What do you guys think?
I have been considering 3 options, but let me tell you what I dont like about the Hurst;
1. Sometimes it will not go into gear unless I let out the clutch a bit.
2. Very Notchy .
3. Has a lot of road noise vibration.
4. Stiff shifts.
5. I missed 3rd on a couple occasions and at other times notice some gears hard to find.
6. Reverse takes an arm to engage
What I want;
1. I want smooth butter smooth shifts with a simple click
2. Easy gear location
3. Directed shifts 1-2-3-4.
4. I dont want reverse to be a Bit@#
5. I would like for my wife to be able to drive this, as she also loves a sports car..
So my current choices are
MGW
Kirban Kwik
RSD Snap.....leaning towards this one..
What do you guys think?
The oem shifter was sloppy but it's longer throw made for easier engagement. The MGW is an improvement but requires practice.
Last edited by NatB; Mar 9, 2013 at 10:20 PM.
Racer
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 257
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From: Plano IL
I have an MTI six shooter and it sounds like it may be exactly what your looking for. There is really no increase in shift effort, but the shifts are shorter and more precise with very minimal notchiness.
Race Director
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From: Newberry FL
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St. Jude Donor '07
I went through something similiar. Picked up a 427x C6Z shifter and LOVE it!
http://www.tpsmotorsports.com/tps-mo...w-no-****.html
http://www.tpsmotorsports.com/tps-mo...w-no-****.html
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 816
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From: Virginia Beach Virginia
I went through something similiar. Picked up a 427x C6Z shifter and LOVE it!
http://www.tpsmotorsports.com/tps-mo...w-no-****.html
http://www.tpsmotorsports.com/tps-mo...w-no-****.html
Race Director
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,135
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From: Newberry FL
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St. Jude Donor '07
It is a decent shifter; I have had the HURST and the B&Ms and I do not notice much difference in the pattern, but do notice that there is no notchyness. My wife hated driving my car before, she loves it now, because the shifter is smoother!
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,279
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From: Oklahoma
I had a MGW with medium orange handle in my Cobra for several years. It was stiff when new but after a few times to the drag strip and on a road course, it was awesome. You just have to wear them in and get used to them. Very precice and saves your shift forks.