2002 Column Lock again and again
Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2006
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From: Pittsburgh suburbs Pa.
Still waiting. Rick said he would send it out express delivery at their expense so I would have it by saturday the 30th. since I told him that I have an appointment for state inspection on April 1st. I always put my car on the road April 1st. I'm waiting for the mail now . Will definately let you know if it fixes it today.
Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2006
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From: Pittsburgh suburbs Pa.
Still waiting. Rick said he would send it out express delivery at their expense so I would have it by saturday the 30th. since I told him that I have an appointment for state inspection on April 1st. I always put my car on the road April 1st. I'm waiting for the mail now . Will definately let you know if it fixes it today.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2008
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From: Edmonton Alberta, Canada
Thanks for the responses "El original" question. I also have the MN6 and never gave CLB a second thought...guess I have a project on the horizon! I am wondering how many other C5 Corvette owners are delaying a CLB?
Instructor
Joined: Aug 2009
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From: New Jersey
I never had the cutoff issue. My CL worked perfectly when I installed the LMC5. I did it more for preventitive maintenance. So it seems you have some other issue to resolve first before installing it. The LMC5 will not solve an exisitng problem. It just bypasses the locking relay and plays nice with the computer.
Le Mans Master
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From: Rotonda West, FL 2015 Z51 M7 3LT
Oldtimer
bj1k; UPS does deliver on Saturday. Will you get it today if it was shipped through them? It depends on how it was sent.
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shi..._delivery.html
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shi..._delivery.html
Le Mans Master
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From: Pittsburgh suburbs Pa.
I never had the cutoff issue. My CL worked perfectly when I installed the LMC5. I did it more for preventitive maintenance. So it seems you have some other issue to resolve first before installing it. The LMC5 will not solve an exisitng problem. It just bypasses the locking relay and plays nice with the computer.
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Instructor
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From: New Jersey
Sorry bj1k... I misunderstood your issue there. Did you try removing it for now? Does it go back to "normal"?
The first module I got gave me the pull key message. I never tried driving it in that state. When I pulled the key and put it back it in everything worked fine. Got the pull key message every time I went to start it.
The second module fixed everything. It was a direct swap - no extra wires to hook up as compared to the original module.
And it wasn't my battery. I had just put in a brand new one.
Hope everything works out for you soon.
The first module I got gave me the pull key message. I never tried driving it in that state. When I pulled the key and put it back it in everything worked fine. Got the pull key message every time I went to start it.
The second module fixed everything. It was a direct swap - no extra wires to hook up as compared to the original module.
And it wasn't my battery. I had just put in a brand new one.
Hope everything works out for you soon.
Pro
Joined: Sep 2012
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From: Finleyville PA
Yeah, I also hope you get your issues resolved with Compliance. I had no problems and received my parts within a few days. The LCM5 is a piece of cake to install.
I did get the 'pull key' message recently, however I think it may have been the key. Been using my second key and all is well..
Good luck!
I did get the 'pull key' message recently, however I think it may have been the key. Been using my second key and all is well..
Good luck!
Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 5,814
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From: Pittsburgh suburbs Pa.
Yeah, I also hope you get your issues resolved with Compliance. I had no problems and received my parts within a few days. The LCM5 is a piece of cake to install.
I did get the 'pull key' message recently, however I think it may have been the key. Been using my second key and all is well..
Good luck!
I did get the 'pull key' message recently, however I think it may have been the key. Been using my second key and all is well..
Good luck!
Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 5,814
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From: Pittsburgh suburbs Pa.
bj1k; UPS does deliver on Saturday. Will you get it today if it was shipped through them? It depends on how it was sent.
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shi..._delivery.html
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shi..._delivery.html
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Le Mans Master
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From: Pittsburgh suburbs Pa.
Yeah , I don't know if they are having some kind of problem out there because he was very helpful at first and said he would send a replacement , but then I just never heard anything for over a week . Then I tried emailing him and calling him and it wasn't returned . Then when I did get in touch with him , he said he would call me that night to say that it was shipped . Never got the call and no part on saturday as promised. I'm baffled , doesn't seem to fit with what I heard about this company . It was mostly good. If I had it to do over again , it wouldn't be worth the hassle. Anybody else sell one that actually works without the hassle ?
Safety Car
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Here is a very good thread about the Column lock issue. A "new" battery might not fix the problem. It really needs the "right" battery, one with the correct specifications.
These two videos were made at a Tech session with a world class Corvette technician, Paul Koerner. He also warns about the use of the CLB. The way that it tricks the BCM into thinking everything is good to go can have some detrimental effects to the BCM. Watch the video, both of them, carefully.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...-debunked.html
These two videos were made at a Tech session with a world class Corvette technician, Paul Koerner. He also warns about the use of the CLB. The way that it tricks the BCM into thinking everything is good to go can have some detrimental effects to the BCM. Watch the video, both of them, carefully.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...-debunked.html
Racer
Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Mechanicsville Md
I got a 2002 Coupe 6 spd and had the SCL and PK issue. I installed the LMC5 and no longer get the SCL but continue to get the PK message. Richard from Compliance sent me the LMC5R with no change. Richard said there are a few C5s that he's seen with this problem so he's sending me a 5 wire version of his fix. He said if this doesn't fix it, it's probably something in the BCM. As soon as he sends it, I'll install it and post the results.
Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2006
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From: Pittsburgh suburbs Pa.
I got a 2002 Coupe 6 spd and had the SCL and PK issue. I installed the LMC5 and no longer get the SCL but continue to get the PK message. Richard from Compliance sent me the LMC5R with no change. Richard said there are a few C5s that he's seen with this problem so he's sending me a 5 wire version of his fix. He said if this doesn't fix it, it's probably something in the BCM. As soon as he sends it, I'll install it and post the results.
Racer
Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Mechanicsville Md
The LMC5R is a 3 wire unit as well. It's bigger than the original. The new version is especially made for 6 spd vettes. Its a 5 wire and I'm not quite sure where the other two wires connect too. I'll post as soon as I know. Heard from Richard today and he's sending out the 5 wire today.
Le Mans Master
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From: Rotonda West, FL 2015 Z51 M7 3LT
Oldtimer
The LMC5R is a 3 wire unit as well. It's bigger than the original. The new version is especially made for 6 spd vettes. Its a 5 wire and I'm not quite sure where the other two wires connect too. I'll post as soon as I know. Heard from Richard today and he's sending out the 5 wire today.
Racer
Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Mechanicsville Md
You can tune out the 2 MPH cut off but not the steering lock. The BCM controls that operation and you a tune does not affect the BCM. Also the shift skip can be taken out with a skip shift jumper kit. Search the forum to find out where you can get it. Its easy to connect.
Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2006
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From: Pittsburgh suburbs Pa.
The LMC5R is a 3 wire unit as well. It's bigger than the original. The new version is especially made for 6 spd vettes. Its a 5 wire and I'm not quite sure where the other two wires connect too. I'll post as soon as I know. Heard from Richard today and he's sending out the 5 wire today.