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Old May 24, 2013 | 02:50 AM
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The quality is laughable. I wouldn't care if it improved my 0-60 time by a full second, crap is crap. What gets me is that it is a very expensive unit. You would think it would be made properly using premium materials.

I have one simple rule for any car mod: What goes in needs to be of comparable quality (or better) than what it replaces.
Do you have one?
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Old May 24, 2013 | 06:28 AM
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Do you have one?
Huh? I thought my post was very clear.
NO, I don't have one for the reasons stated in my post.

Have I seen one? Yes, and that's how I know they are flimsy, badly sealed and do not fit properly.

On another note; I love your avatar............it's hilarious!

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Old May 24, 2013 | 07:30 AM
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I think it is funny how people that dont have this thing bash it but everyone that does have have shown marked improvement.
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Old May 24, 2013 | 07:44 AM
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I have a Honker on mine. (Original owner had it put on). Is the reason they aren't more popular solely the cost? I believe I read that they are one of the few true CAI units but I could be wrong.

What does everyone with VR's do about the sucking up road water? I don't know if that's a real problem or just unfounded rantings. A lot of folks seem to run 'em so I find it hard to believe they'd be sucking up road chit and still be that popular.
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Old May 24, 2013 | 07:52 AM
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Go for it. You will notice the difference. Only true ram air CAI for a C5 out there as far as I know. The faster you go, the more air is forced into the engine and the more hp it helps to make. Any simple mod that gives 3/10's at the drag strip is well worth it. No other CAI can make this claim.
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Old May 24, 2013 | 08:53 AM
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I have a Honker on mine. (Original owner had it put on). Is the reason they aren't more popular solely the cost? I believe I read that they are one of the few true CAI units but I could be wrong.

What does everyone with VR's do about the sucking up road water? I don't know if that's a real problem or just unfounded rantings. A lot of folks seem to run 'em so I find it hard to believe they'd be sucking up road chit and still be that popular.
At stock ride height the intake(s) sit 11 inches above ground. The intakes are wide open and you need to screen them to keep the squirrels out. It is easily done with a $4.00 piece of material from Home Depot or Lowes and a half hour with a good pair of tin snips. The filter stops any debris missed by the screen from going on through.

Factory declared time for 1/4 mile (coupe) when new was 13.36. My 2000 convertible, automatic transmission with a Vararam, ran 13.1 with 89,000 miles and worn out Michelin Pilot Sports on it the week I purchased it in May, 2011. I think it does something good for performance?
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Old May 24, 2013 | 08:59 AM
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Yeah, but I've heard of sucking water, the screens wouldn't solve that?

I'm not about to pull the Honker off and use a VR, just curious to hear from those who have them about the supposed water issue; fact or fiction?
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Old May 24, 2013 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by calvins
Yeah, but I've heard of sucking water, the screens wouldn't solve that?

I'm not about to pull the Honker off and use a VR, just curious to hear from those who have them about the supposed water issue; fact or fiction?
I was asking John about these. He says the vararams "can" suck up water. He recommends the Blackwing.
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Yeah, but I've heard of sucking water, the screens wouldn't solve that?

I'm not about to pull the Honker off and use a VR, just curious to hear from those who have them about the supposed water issue; fact or fiction?
Fiction. You'd have to submerge the openings to aspirate water.
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Yeah, but I've heard of sucking water, the screens wouldn't solve that?

I'm not about to pull the Honker off and use a VR, just curious to hear from those who have them about the supposed water issue; fact or fiction?
Your question is valid. The intake is only 11 inches above the ground at stock ride height. The intakes face forward, thereby providing the forced air into the system at speed.

The answer is actually pretty simple. Vararam does not face the ground surface like a street sweeper and does not "suck" water into the intake system. Like ANY intake system if you get it into water deep enough to allow water to the intake opening the water will enter.
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Old May 24, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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Thanks! I suspected that but wasn't certain. It seemed REALLY bizarre that so many would use something if it did in fact have such a glaring design flaw.
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Heres another vote for the Blackwing. Quality piece, easy to install and clean, and to make it a real CAI, modify the shroud for cold air. If you can get yourself an IceBox cover for the Blackwing even better. Im sure it fllows at least as well or better than the quality challenged VR. And you dont have to modify the Blackwing to make it fit/work. Only your stock shroud. No so with the VR. Its well known that most buyers of the VR are hacking,cuttting,siliconing,drilling it to make it fit/work.This way you have a DIY, homemade CAI that works as well as the VR,Honker,Hurricane,and Vortex Rammer. And much cheaper!

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Originally Posted by DARRYLZO6
Heres another vote for the Blackwing. Quality piece, easy to install and clean, and to make it a real CAI, modify the shroud for cold air. If you can get yourself an IceBox cover for the Blackwing even better. Im sure it fllows at least as well or better than the quality challenged VR. And you dont have to modify the Blackwing to make it fit/work. Only your stock shroud. No so with the VR. Its well known that most buyers of the VR are hacking,cuttting,siliconing,drilling it to make it fit/work.This way you have a DIY, homemade CAI that works as well as the VR,Honker,Hurricane,and Vortex Rammer. And much cheaper!
Darryl. Nice looking job. The only reason I have a Vararam is because it had been installed by a previous owner. I'm fourth in line on my car.

On your installation I am not able to see how air is forced into the filter box. Is there a duct to an open air source that is not shown in your photos? It appears you have isolated the filter but not gained the benefit of the forced air at speed.
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Old May 24, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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Darryl. Nice looking job. The only reason I have a Vararam is because it had been installed by a previous owner. I'm fourth in line on my car.

On your installation I am not able to see how air is forced into the filter box. Is there a duct to an open air source that is not shown in your photos? It appears you have isolated the filter but not gained the benefit of the forced air at speed.
Thanks. And YES there is a duct/scoop under the filter and it does ram the filter in at speed. Maybe over the weekend I'll post some underside pics. That was the idea behind by DIY CAI project. AND CHEAP! Just as effective as the others. If your VR was installed by the previous owner, that spares you the wrestling contest of installation.
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Originally Posted by DARRYLZO6
Thanks. And YES there is a duct/scoop under the filter and it does ram the filter in at speed. Maybe over the weekend I'll post some underside pics. That was the idea behind by DIY CAI project. AND CHEAP! Just as effective as the others. If your VR was installed by the previous owner, that spares you the wrestling contest of installation.
Looking at how they did it I believe it could have been a "cleaner" job but it seals well at the filter location and has been problem free for me. I screened the intake openings as they had been left unprotected and when I opened the filter the first time there were some Texas or Louisiana bugs the size of 1956 Buicks in there. The purchase and installation paperwork for the VR came with the car and I guess they earned their $200.00 for the install. Still should be screened from the manufacturer.

Looking forward to seeing your photo update.
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Originally Posted by BADBIRDCAGE
Looking at how they did it I believe it could have been a "cleaner" job but it seals well at the filter location and has been problem free for me. I screened the intake openings as they had been left unprotected and when I opened the filter the first time there were some Texas or Louisiana bugs the size of 1956 Buicks in there. The purchase and installation paperwork for the VR came with the car and I guess they earned their $200.00 for the install. Still should be screened from the manufacturer.

Looking forward to seeing your photo update.
Im glad that its working out for you. Ill take some pics this Sunday while my "shrimp are on the barbie"! HA!
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Originally Posted by baxsom
I think it is funny how people that dont have this thing bash it but everyone that does have have shown marked improvement.
I've had two of them. They're great.
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I can hydrolock a honker. I can hydrolock a stock filter. I can hydrolock my VR.

Always silicone your filter into the upper housing. That is my only complaint

There is no ram air. It's a complete myth. Google it.
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Old May 25, 2013 | 07:27 AM
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I think it is funny how people that dont have this thing bash it but everyone that does have have shown marked improvement.
No one is disputing the performance improvements that are possible with the Varraram. It's the poor build quality that is the issue. Wouldn't you like it more if it was made with better quality materials? Honestly?!

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I can hydrolock a honker. I can hydrolock a stock filter. I can hydrolock my VR.

Always silicone your filter into the upper housing. That is my only complaint

There is no ram air. It's a complete myth. Google it.
Someone should have told the Dodge Ramchargers drag racing team in the 1960's about that myth.
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