I hear that's a registered trademark over on the Prius forums.
Nitrogen filled tires???
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I don't have a lot of room to maneuver. Anyways, not a big deal, regular air it is not the fancy stuff...
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One of the reasons why I brought up the discussion is that I store my car over winter about an hour from where I live. I try and do routine checkups but it is sometimes a pain in the *** to get out to the location. One of the reasons for my visits is to check tire pressure and make sure they do not go below a certain level. I do take the steps before storing to fill up with extra air, and this year will use styrofoam molds in the shape of my tires to help "cushion" any ill effects, but was thinking that nitrogen would give me one less thing to think about while she's asleep...not a huge deal, just another general forum conversation
. Thanks for your input Jack
. Thanks for your input Jack
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I think I'll fill my tires with neon. Then maybe I'll be able to see the gas leaking from my tires.
But seriously, my mechanic has a device he claims purges my tires of non-N prior to reinflating with Nitrogen.
Does this device actually do that, or is he just blowing smoke?
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But seriously, my mechanic has a device he claims purges my tires of non-N prior to reinflating with Nitrogen.
Does this device actually do that, or is he just blowing smoke?
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Does anybody honestly think that oxygen is leaking out or diffusing through microscopic holes in the rubber tire, and that the larger nitrogen molecule won't do this, or is less likely to? You think the air is actually leaking out through the tire, and not from the rim seal or valve stem? Nitrogen is sometimes used in race car or airplane tires because of extreme heat they may be exposed to, but this is also hype, and it really has no useful place in automotive tires except to lighten your wallet and justify the $4000 machine to pump 25c of nitrogen into your tires for the $40 charge.
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Does anybody honestly think that oxygen is leaking out or diffusing through microscopic holes in the rubber tire, and that the larger nitrogen molecule won't do this, or is less likely to? You think the air is actually leaking out through the tire, and not from the rim seal or valve stem? Nitrogen is sometimes used in race car or airplane tires because of extreme heat they may be exposed to, but this is also hype, and it really has no useful place in automotive tires except to lighten your wallet and justify the $4000 machine to pump 25c of nitrogen into your tires for the $40 charge.
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Does anybody honestly think that oxygen is leaking out or diffusing through microscopic holes in the rubber tire, and that the larger nitrogen molecule won't do this, or is less likely to? You think the air is actually leaking out through the tire, and not from the rim seal or valve stem? Nitrogen is sometimes used in race car or airplane tires because of extreme heat they may be exposed to, but this is also hype, and it really has no useful place in automotive tires except to lighten your wallet and justify the $4000 machine to pump 25c of nitrogen into your tires for the $40 charge.
Plus the special valve stem caps with an "N" .. hell those are worth the price to use Nitrogen aren't they ... looking cool with all my "N" on the car !
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Yeah but think how cool your car looks with all the window stickers they put on with the big "N" to show you have Nitrogen in your tires !
Plus the special valve stem caps with an "N" .. hell those are worth the price to use Nitrogen aren't they ... looking cool with all my "N" on the car !
Plus the special valve stem caps with an "N" .. hell those are worth the price to use Nitrogen aren't they ... looking cool with all my "N" on the car !
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About 30 years ago a friend and I had a small business for mobile auto repair. We used nitrogen tanks to power our air tools because it was cheap and a high pressure tank would last a long time.
I don't know what the tank refill prices are now, but they were cheap.
I suspect they are still cheap. I have seen nitrogen generators for under $500 and ones capable of producing about 15 cfm nitrogen for about $3000. It is a common gas that is easily separated from the air.
It sounds like at $10 a tire you could pay off the cheaper equipment with only about a dozen cars.
Pretty crazy pricing for filling car tires.
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Why isn't it?
About 30 years ago a friend and I had a small business for mobile auto repair. We used nitrogen tanks to power our air tools because it was cheap and a high pressure tank would last a long time.
I don't know what the tank refill prices are now, but they were cheap.
I suspect they are still cheap. I have seen nitrogen generators for under $500 and ones capable of producing about 15 cfm nitrogen for about $3000. It is a common gas that is easily separated from the air.
It sounds like at $10 a tire you could pay off the cheaper equipment with only about a dozen cars.
Pretty crazy pricing for filling car tires.
About 30 years ago a friend and I had a small business for mobile auto repair. We used nitrogen tanks to power our air tools because it was cheap and a high pressure tank would last a long time.
I don't know what the tank refill prices are now, but they were cheap.
I suspect they are still cheap. I have seen nitrogen generators for under $500 and ones capable of producing about 15 cfm nitrogen for about $3000. It is a common gas that is easily separated from the air.
It sounds like at $10 a tire you could pay off the cheaper equipment with only about a dozen cars.
Pretty crazy pricing for filling car tires.
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I think I'll fill my tires with neon. Then maybe I'll be able to see the gas leaking from my tires.
But seriously, my mechanic has a device he claims purges my tires of non-N prior to reinflating with Nitrogen.
Does this device actually do that, or is he just blowing smoke?
.
But seriously, my mechanic has a device he claims purges my tires of non-N prior to reinflating with Nitrogen.
Does this device actually do that, or is he just blowing smoke?
.
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I'm guessing it's still pretty cheap, we used it in 2000 PSI hydraulic accumulators and occasionally got a 25 gallon container of liquid nitrogen for chilling bearing races for assembly. Fun stuff, freezing things and breaking them Shattered tennis ***** and golf ***** in the machine shop.
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I'll keep putting air in my tires, I mean 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.039% carbon dioxide, and maybe helium or neon for the rest.
These enlightening posts make me wish I had taken more chemistry classes in school. Thanks for the info.
These enlightening posts make me wish I had taken more chemistry classes in school. Thanks for the info.
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So ya'll are saying it's safe to cook with Mobil 1?
I knew it had to be good for something.
I knew it had to be good for something.
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