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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 04:13 PM
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Guys I am preparing my Z06 for top speed event in march, what could I do to keep the car stable at top speed? Any help would be much appreciated.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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The easiest thing you can do to reduce lift and drag is to cover the brake vents and engine compartment vents on the front bumper. Painter's tape will work fine, so long as the bumper is cleaned beforehand.

What's your suspension setup? If it's stock, you'll want to lower the front as far as it goes, then lower the rear about the same amount, ensuring that a forward rake is maintained (i.e. the front is a little lower than the rear).

Do you know what your current alignment specs are? You'll want a little bit of toe-in in front, and in the rear you'll want zero toe or a little toe-in.

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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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Biggest contributors to front lift are air forced/trapped in the engine bay, and air going underneath the car and becoming turbulent. Lift can occur due to air entering the fender wells, but this affects road racing cars when they turn generally...not straight line stuff.

Lowering keeps air over the car but compressing the suspension too far can compromise suspension dampening, making the car become unstable at high speed...so that's a line you have to find. Keeping air out of brake ducts and out of the engine bay is a plus, like stated. Lastly, a little hood rake or hood venting goes a long way to relieving that pressure with just a bit of drag penalty depending on how its done.

From there...it's just about test runs more than anything...
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The easiest thing you can do to reduce lift and drag is to cover the brake vents and engine compartment vents on the front bumper. Painter's tape will work fine, so long as the bumper is cleaned beforehand.

What's your suspension setup? If it's stock, you'll want to lower the front as far as it goes, then lower the rear about the same amount, ensuring that a forward rake is maintained (i.e. the front is a little lower than the rear).

Do you know what your current alignment specs are? You'll want a little bit of toe-in in front, and in the rear you'll want zero toe or a little toe-in.
The suspension is stock now but I am getting Pfadt JO stage I shocks and sways. The car is lowered with a forward rack to it you can check out my album to see the rack.

Alignment specs are stock.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 05:11 PM
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Ditto on the engine bay pressure.... at 140+ mph in my car.. my hood starts to lift.
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The center of your air dam is hinged. It will fold under with high speed air pressure. To ensure it will remain in the down position, you must brace it from the rear in some way, so that it cannot fold under.

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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 63Corvette
The center of your air dam is hinged. It will fold under with high speed air opressure. To ensure it will remain in the down position, you must brace it from the rear in some way, so that it cqannot fold under.
The outers of the air dam are even weaker...the whole thing will fold. Removing the dam could be more beneficial just due to the fact when it bends it creates basically a set of flaps like an airplane wing.
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Originally Posted by RC000E
The outers of the air dam are even weaker...the whole thing will fold. Removing the dam could be more beneficial just due to the fact when it bends it creates basically a set of flaps like an airplane wing.
I respectfully disagree! Better to brace the whole thing so that it still works as an air dam!!!
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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I've competed in 1/2 mile top speed events with my cobra and been accompanied by a bud with an 03 Z06. only exterior mods he had are L5 rear fenders and CCW wheels. car was just fine at 156mph at the 1/2 mile mark. I wouldn't get too worked up about it if I were you, I know inexperience breeds fear, but what you really need to be paying attention to are your tires (as in age/wear, speed rating), brake's condition, and cooling. that's about it.
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I have a hood for sale.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-p...tion-hood.html
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True. Tires, breaks, vollute and leave your cheap carbon zr hood at home. That is my formula this year. I didn't run the lower spoiler, or my rear z06 break ducts and car was lowered on pfadt coil overs and I was good to 170.
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Agreed. Tires and brakes. If you are running new brakes make sure you break them in before hand. Glazed over brakes at 150 plus with a small run out area is not good. Leave the cheap carbon zr hood at home (personal experience). I ran without the lower spoiler and the rear z06 brake ducts lowered on pfadt coil overs. Just go thru the car front to rear. Make sure everything is tight and where it's suppose to be.
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Thanks guys for all the advice, I will keep it in mind and will update with the results.
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Originally Posted by encasedmetal
a bud with an 03 Z06. only exterior mods he had are L5 rear fenders and CCW wheels. car was just fine at 156mph at the 1/2 mile mark.rating)


The C5 Z06 are by far the most stable at High speed Corvettes, I've ever driven.

160+ in stock form multiple times (track times) and the damn car was glued to the pavement....no lifting or bouncing around at all period!

Good luck....helmet and seat belt are your best friends!
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Originally Posted by PeteZ06
Ditto on the engine bay pressure.... at 140+ mph in my car.. my hood starts to lift.
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Yep, when I track my Z06 I duct tape the front hood gap and back 2 ft on the sides. On a long straight around 140 mph the slightest tire imbalance will start to vibrate and scare the he** out of you. I recommend new tires and go to a shop that knows how to do high speed balancing.........and have fun!!!
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Lowering the car and increasing the front end rake will. You might want to consider an air dam or splitter to keep the front end down. When my car was stock I could feel the steering get lighter at 140. Lowering and front canards kept it tighter at 160, much more stable. Possibly consider a way to prop the rear edge of the hood up to let out underhood pressure. I have seen the rear edge fluttering at those speeds.
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Know they did a 2.73 rear gear swap and lowered the car, but doesn't appear to have anything externally different besides being a hatchback at 225mph...
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