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I really got a kick out of this excuse for speeding.
A Montana senior citizen drove his brand new Corvette convertible out of the dealership. Taking off down the road, he pushed it to 80 mph, enjoying the wind blowing through what little hair he had left. "Amazing, " he thought as he flew down I-90, pushing the pedal even more.
Looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a Montana State Trooper, blue lights flashing and siren blaring. He floored it to 100 mph, then 110, then 120. Suddenly he thought, "What am I doing? I'm too old for this! "and pulled over to await the trooper's arrival.
Pulling in behind him, the trooper got out of his vehicle and walked up to the Corvette. He looked at his watch, then said, "Sir, my shift ends in 30 minutes. Today is Friday. If you can give me a new reason for speeding--a reason I've never before heard -- I'll let you go."
The old gentleman then said: "Three years ago, my wife ran off with a Montana State Trooper. I thought you were bringing her back.
I'd heard it before ZZ but it still brings a much need smile tonight. GoodOneMo
As pertains to the OP, no offense I know it doesn't make you fell better but recognize you did not use the good judgment. If asked use that term too. Use the apologetic approach in court and maybe you'll get off with supervision traffic school or something without it going on your record.
If you decide to contest it. Use a lawyer that's already there defending someone else.. Be soft spoken, solicit around and cry broke (harder to do with a vet but you never know) They are there already defending someone else and already have their tripod ($300) for being there as a result I've had them do it for as little as $50 for lunch. It depends on your presentation and what you say to them. True story, once I even had an guy say don't worry about it, come on up when I call you. With all the attorney stories I'd heard over the years and my own divorce attorneys leechless ways I was as amazed as you could imagine. Nonetheless good luck this summer.
Law enforcement topics on this forum usually go south very quickly. If you feel the ticket is unfair or improper, go to court and explain the circumstances to the judge. Let him/her make a decision. You're going to get about as many opinions here on a ticket as you would if you asked about the best car wax or motor oil.
Police officers are allowed to exceed the posted speed limit if circumstances warrant it. An example of such circumstances would be in response to a call for backup in a non-emergency situation, for example, a traffic stop made by another officer.
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Originally Posted by troyguitar
He was only doing his job if he also gave himself a ticket for the same offense. The cop is 100% guilty of the exact same speeding violation and deserves an identical fine and points, period.
So now you know exactly that the cop was not on a call that may have required him to go that fast? Good luck with that defense in a courtroom.
The OP that got the ticket deserved it. Not a smart move to pace a cop car going over the speed limit - that's just asking for trouble.
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So now you know exactly that the cop was not on a call that may have required him to go that fast?
What I know is that there are only 3 possible explanations:
1: He was on business that required him to speed. Instead he decided to ignore his responsibilities and stop, meaning he was doing his job very poorly.
2: He was not on business that required him to speed but just felt like speeding because he could - again doing his job very poorly.
3: His official business was in fact speeding in the hopes of encouraging others to follow him so that he could pull them over to generate revenue. This scenario is also doing his job very poorly.
I am a Police Officer as well. First off OP I apologize that you got caught up in that crappy situation. I would never do someone that way, but unfortunately there are some Officers that will and do.
It is my departments policy that if I am traveling more than 10mph above the posted speed limit that I am required to activate lights and siren regardless of the nature of the call. Not all calls require a "code" response but do require a quick response(just like someone else said already). Yes, that rule is broken by myself and other Officers that I work with. But we are really setting ourselves up for liability.
We have camera's that automatically come on at 70 mph and they are monitored by the Sgt. and Lt. However I do not have interstate that I work so I really don't see that high speed most of the time during normal patrol duties.
I would never stop someone for following me like that if I was speeding. But I don't speed either unless I am going somewhere that I need to go in a hurry. But I don't stop speeders either unless they are traveling 15 mph over the speed limit anyways and still barely ever right them anyways. Unless they have a bad attitude or a DUI/DWI. I can honestly say that in my 6 years as a LEO I have issued less than 10 speeding tickets.
The truth is not to be found in the courtroom. I was given a ticket when I was in bed asleep.....actually, my son was given the ticket, but the officer never looked at his license. He just entered the info on the registration, which had my name on it and wrote the ticket.
In court, the officer could not prove his case that it was me driving the car, yet the judge was still more than willing to call me guilty. If it weren't for my wife testifying, I would have been found guilty of speeding when I was asleep in bed.
I could tell by the disposition of the judge he was not at all happy about having to let all that revenue walk out the door.
BTW - in Florida at the pretrial hearing, they pound in your head how much extra it will cost you if you decide to fight the ticket and loose.
I am a Police Officer as well. First off OP I apologize that you got caught up in that crappy situation. I would never do someone that way, but unfortunately there are some Officers that will and do.
It is my departments policy that if I am traveling more than 10mph above the posted speed limit that I am required to activate lights and siren regardless of the nature of the call. Not all calls require a "code" response but do require a quick response(just like someone else said already). Yes, that rule is broken by myself and other Officers that I work with. But we are really setting ourselves up for liability.
We have camera's that automatically come on at 70 mph and they are monitored by the Sgt. and Lt. However I do not have interstate that I work so I really don't see that high speed most of the time during normal patrol duties.
I would never stop someone for following me like that if I was speeding. But I don't speed either unless I am going somewhere that I need to go in a hurry. But I don't stop speeders either unless they are traveling 15 mph over the speed limit anyways and still barely ever right them anyways. Unless they have a bad attitude or a DUI/DWI. I can honestly say that in my 6 years as a LEO I have issued less than 10 speeding tickets.
Since speed is the second leading cause of traffic fatalities you really haven't been doing your job, have you? You may be in the wrong line of work.
3: His official business was in fact speeding in the hopes of encouraging others to follow him so that he could pull them over to generate revenue. This scenario is also doing his job very poorly.
I can honestly say that during my 37-year career I never "baited" anyone to encourage speeding. That seems like a rather silly scenario to me, especially in a fully marked police vehicle. I did once have a women pass me at rather high rate of speed and when I stopped her she said, "Oh, I thought you were a taxi cab".
Secondly, I never thought of any traffic violation as a revenue generator. Never. I retired several years ago and perhaps things have changed, but I never equated traffic fines to local or state coffers, job security, etc. Traffic enforcement is part of a police officer's job. I did, however, give consideration to the financial burden or increased insurance rates a ticket might create for the driver. If the circumstances were right, I gave a break to those who were polite, honest, and sincere. You'd probably be be surprised how far that went with me.
Not entrapment... However, if you fight it... Get an attorney, Did he indicate how he found you to be speeding? If with radar... All DPS (at least in TX) must keep a log of their radar calibration, maint... and they are to document that. 9-10 they do not keep up w this.. therefore, you can throw that out there.. a judge will dismiss on the spot if he cannot provide that log ....
Now, if he "visually paced you"... Just break your wallet out... I got hit with that one recently and it was BS... The office was not even facing my direction... when I inqured about it, he threw two additional charges on for good measure... ( no front tag, excessive tire noise) both of which were dropped and I ended up w a speeding violation...
Just chalk it up..
Other details: Supposedly this section was a 65mph zone. (He was not inclined to slow down for). He wrote me up for 80. I stayed calm and respectful, never making a comment. Simply listened and took the ticket with a smile.[/QUOTE]
What I know is that there are only 3 possible explanations:
1: He was on business that required him to speed. Instead he decided to ignore his responsibilities and stop, meaning he was doing his job very poorly.
As I have already stated, he could easily have called another officer to handle the call he was heading to so he could handle the more immediate matter. From a police officer's point of view, having a speeding car following behind you is not an ideal experience. Police are shot all the time at routine traffic stops, what do you think would go through an officer's mind at having someone following behind them at 80 mph?
The OP admitted he was speeding. Now it's somebody elses fault like the cop. Then out of the woodwork the attorneys pop out telling him how they can get him off, of course they will do that for free right. That's whats wrong today its always the fault of someone else.