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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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Long story short, I checked my harmonic balancer, looked like it had some wobble. Had it checked out by my mechanic, he confirmed the run out is excessive, so it has to be replaced.
While checking out this subject for the C6 I looked at, I noticed some guys had replaced the balancer with aftermarket.
Have others with the LS1 replaced their harmonic balancer and did you replace it with the OEM unit or aftermarket? If aftermarket, which brand and model did you go with and are you satisfied?
Any input, feedback here is appreciated.
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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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I would not replace it with stock or any type with rubber ring in it. Most of the time, the rubber part causes the wobbling. Many guys chose ATI. I bought Powerbond stock (0% underdrive) from Hinson Super Cars. Not installed yet; currently in the UPS truck.
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I would not replace it with stock or any type with rubber ring in it. Most of the time, the rubber part causes the wobbling. Many guys chose ATI. I bought Powerbond stock (0% underdrive) from Hinson Super Cars. Not installed yet; currently in the UPS truck.
Yes, the rubber ring is what has failed on mine. No surprise, that's what usually fails.
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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 01:56 PM
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Would suggest you research more about harmonic balancer function...you will then know which one to replace with. They are a very important part of your engine health.
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Mine failed at 30k miles.

I replaced it with a stock size Powerbond one. (And an ARP bolt)

With all the complaints about the balancers failing I would not get a stock GM balancer.
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Mine failed at 30k miles.

I replaced it with a stock size Powerbond one. (And an ARP bolt)

With all the complaints about the balancers failing I would not get a stock GM balancer.
I agree, that's why I'm posting here. My mechanic said the same thing. We agreed I'd post here and see what the group recommends based on changes they've made.
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Originally Posted by El original
Would suggest you research more about harmonic balancer function...you will then know which one to replace with. They are a very important part of your engine health.
Thanks,
Actually, I came across an old thread while doing a general search on this subject. It has some excellent information and is relevant even though it's four years old. I hope this link works:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-racing-2.html
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I replaced my OE piece with an ATI balancer.
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Stockers are only good as door-stops.

Drilled and pinned Powerbond and ARP bolt = FTW
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I haven't replaced mine yet been paranoid because of all ive read on it, I check it often, I thought gm came out with a replacement balancer that was different from the ones that go bad, just something someone told me I never looked into it yet, mines a 99 with 39k
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Stocker will eventually go due to aging and fatiguing of the elastomer between the two halves. A buddy with an '02 Z06 with 98k miles on it just started wobbling so he's going with the Powerbond HB. I would use an aftermarket HB, Powerbond, ATI, etc. I had an ASP underdrive pulley for a while before installing the latest IW. I would suggest you pin the HB and install a reuseable ARP crank bolt when you replace yours while youre at it.

I just installed an Innovators West OD balancer - not by choice, but it was required to the specific mod I was adding to my new setup. IW balancers don't use elastomer as the damping material but a wet friction clutch pack instead. These are expensive but they are serviceable and extremely tough. Plus, I needed one to allow the HB to be machined and converted over to a cog drive. Here's how they work:

The Innovators West dampers are a friction style damper. Inside the damper is a wet friction clutch pack assembly. Spring Loaded inertia rings work in conjunction with clutches to provide the dampening action. There is a small amount of fluid inside that acts as a lubricant as well as dissipates heat. The free floating clutch pack design allows for a broad dampening range in a small package

I couldn't resist sanding and polishing mine before installing it.




Best of luck with your fix.
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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 07:37 PM
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Did a fair bit of research, mostly on these forums. 2000 Base with 25k, bad balancer. Went with a Powerbond OEM and the ARP bolt. OReilys was the best price on the balancer, about $100 shipped.
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Originally Posted by Norm07
Did a fair bit of research, mostly on these forums. 2000 Base with 25k, bad balancer. Went with a Powerbond OEM and the ARP bolt. OReilys was the best price on the balancer, about $100 shipped.
Thanks, I think this is the winner for me. After completing my research, I want to go with original weight and set up also seems like the ARP bolt is easier to use.
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Summitracing C2501. 4-5 years supercharged, zero issues. 8 rib but you only use the front 6. Rated to 12500 RPM. Take a look, it might work for you. Rod
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
Stockers are only good as door-stops.

Drilled and pinned Powerbond and ARP bolt = FTW
I got the 25% Powerbond from Texas Speed. Used the ARP bolt and ATI Pin Kit. Changed the oil pump, LS2 timing chain, and cover seal tool.

I also used the SAC alignment tool for the seal and cover Get a balancer install tool too.

Get yourself a good 18mm flare wrench for the power steering rack lines. There were time consuming for me. Get some plugs for the lines and ports as well so fluid does not go all over the place.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
I replaced my OE piece with an ATI balancer.
Same here, with 10% under drive.....
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From my research, here's what I've concluded:

Is your car stock? If so I'd go with the Powerbond replacement (~$100). You can go for a 10% or more UD if you want to spend the extra ~$100 or so.

You can also go with ATI, but be aware that they require servicing (not for around 10 years though I believe).

If you are not planning on pinning the crank, you may want to consider going with the stock bolt and the GM diamond embedded washer. The washer helps keep the bolt in and helps keep the damper from spinning on the crank. If you do plan on pinning it, you can go with the ARP bolt or the stock bolt with no washer.
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innovators west is what I went with... you may not need the exact configuration as mine but they can make them any way you wish



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Replaced mine on my '03 with an ATI 10% underdrive at 73,xxx miles.. I'm guessing this is more common on Corvettes? My 1999 Z28 had 115,000 miles on it when I sold it and never had any wobble, (had it since 45,000)
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Originally Posted by GoldenFlame
Replaced mine on my '03 with an ATI 10% underdrive at 73,xxx miles.. I'm guessing this is more common on Corvettes? My 1999 Z28 had 115,000 miles on it when I sold it and never had any wobble, (had it since 45,000)


82,000 miles on my stock balancer on my 02, no problems.
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