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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 05:13 PM
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Runflat v non runflat tires
I have runflat Pirelli,s on back. 275\40R18 PZERO NERO A/S RFT.
Car is a little squirrely
Had KUMO's before no problems
I see posts saying some don't want runflats.
Why-why not?
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 05:20 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 05:20 PM
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I bought my 04 in September 2014 with factory run flats that were 3 years old with 10% worn. I have read many negitives about run flats. My test is driving the car to make a determination whether I will dump the run flats for new tires. I did not find them noisy or the other negatives that the forum writers discuss. But I am a easy driver not doing anything during my drives that would put stress on the vehicle. Just my .02 worth.
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Its my wife's car, just put new Mich AS Plus run flats on couple weeks ago. I just don't want her stranded, even for an hour waiting for tow truck, rather her drive 50 mi to a safe location.

and as you say, we had 8yr old GY run flats and never noticed the noise or the performance since we never take the car to any limit on traction.
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 05:36 PM
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If you can't handle a flat tire then you should get runflats.
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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Was running Goodyear run-flats and switched to Nitto non run-flats
HUGE difference in noise HUGE!
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 06:28 PM
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The stiff sidewalls of runflat tires transmit more road noise as well as a substantial increase in harshness of ride quality. For these reasons many switch to non-runflats which have softer, more flexible sidewalls, and therefore produce a smoother and quieter ride.

Runflat tires give you some security if you get a flat, with non-runflats you should carry a repair kit. (The C5 Z06 came from the factory with non-runflats and a tire repair kit)

Non-runflats are approx 20% cheaper than runflats.

You have to weigh up whether you want the security or the smoother, quieter ride. I have driven with both and find the non-runflats considerably smoother and quieter. I have also found that of the tires I have tried, Michelin Pilot Sports have been the quietest and smoothest.




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Originally Posted by allred
The stiff sidewalls of runflat tires transmit more road noise as well as a substantial increase in harshness of ride quality. For these reasons many switch to non-runflats which have softer, more flexible sidewalls, and therefore produce a smoother and quieter ride.

Runflat tires give you some security if you get a flat, with non-runflats you should carry a repair kit. (The C5 Z06 came from the factory with non-runflats and a tire repair kit)

Non-runflats are approx 20% cheaper than runflats.

You have to weigh up whether you want the security or the smoother, quieter ride. I have driven with both and find the non-runflats considerably smoother and quieter. I have also found that of the tires I have tried, Michelin Pilot Sports have been the quietest and smoothest.




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When I priced my tires runflats were almost twice as much.

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I've heard that running runflats on one axle and non-runflats on the other can upset handling - - but others have said there's no difference.

I had Nitto 555's (non RF) on my car when I bought it and put Michelin RFs on-- a bit harder ride, but then I also put Bilsteins on at the same time- so might be hard to gauge. Michelins were twice the price of Nittos . . . but between the tires and AAA, I worry less about being stranded.

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I changed out my RFs to V12evos on my convertible and it helped with the tire noise.There are untold numbers of Vet owners who have swapped out the runflats and as far as I am concerned,for the better.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
If you can't handle a flat tire then you should get runflats.
Has nothing to do with handling a flat or not. It comes down to choices. You choose what you want and the rest of us buy what we want.
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by allred
Non-runflats are approx 20% cheaper than runflats.
Originally Posted by JR-01
When I priced my tires runflats were almost twice as much.
JR-01's assessment is more accurate than allred's based on my experience buying tires.
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 07:54 PM
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When I bought my car it had 11 year old run flat rocks on it...

After the purchase I didn't have run-flat cash so I went with non run-flats and a can of fix-a-flat.

The ride for me is 1000% better.
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 08:44 PM
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After a couple of times of putting on new run flats when they wore out( which happens pretty quick with the factory good years)I finally went with non run flats, the ride was much improved and the noise was reduced signifantly,I know other owners have tried other brands, but I went with continental extreme contact DWS's, they were half the cost of the run flats, and are supposed to last for 50k miles.
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FRANK J CARCIA
Has nothing to do with handling a flat or not. It comes down to choices. You choose what you want and the rest of us buy what we want.
Actually it does. If getting a flat tire is no big deal, then save your money, get better handling and ride and go with non runflats. The only benefit of runflats is if you get a flat tire. So it is your choice.

The OP was looking for advice. He wasn't sure what he wanted.

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I've got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus ZP (run flat)--
Happy with their comfort and lack of noise --and they also grip pretty well -- wet or dry.

http://www.tirerack.com/survey/Surve...%3D74YR8PSASZP

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e&autoModClar=

Just my .02.
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Originally Posted by raff
I've got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus ZP (run flat)--
Happy with their comfort and lack of noise --and they also grip pretty well -- wet or dry.

http://www.tirerack.com/survey/Surve...%3D74YR8PSASZP

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e&autoModClar=

Just my .02.
Those are just about double what I paid for my Bridgestone 760 Potenzas. Something for the OP to think about.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Actually it does. If getting a flat tire is no big deal, then save your money, get better handling and ride and go with non runflats. The only benefit of runflats is if you get a flat tire. So it is your choice.

The OP was looking for advice. He wasn't sure what he wanted.
Obviously you would not spend the money for a set of Michelin run flats so how can you rate them for the op. Saying you get better ride and handling. You don't know!!!
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Originally Posted by JR-01
When I priced my tires runflats were almost twice as much.
Originally Posted by thisMSGgood4me
JR-01's assessment is more accurate than allred's based on my experience buying tires.
Hmm, I'll definitely bow to facts, but Tire Rack's current prices are $896 for Michelin Pilot Sport non-run flats, and $1,180 for Michelin Pilot Power runflats.

$1,180 minus 20% is $944
$896 plus 20% is $1,075
So I think my 20% estimate is fairly accurate.



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Originally Posted by allred
Hmm, I'll definitely bow to facts, but Tire Rack's current prices are $896 for Michelin Pilot Sport non-run flats, and $1,180 for Michelin Pilot Power runflats.

$1,180 minus 20% is $944
$896 plus 20% is $1,075
So I think my 20% estimate is fairly accurate.



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Your 20% estimate might be "fairly accurate" in that particular case, but in general, your typical runflat does run about twice as much as your typical non-runflat. This is a fact that's hard to dispute. Don't believe me? Just read some of the comments above from others who've compared prices (besides myself).
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