Electric C5Z?
Burning Brakes
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,233
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From: Hyde Park New York
Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 472
From: Newark Delaware
A lot of these comments just confirm to me that there are not very many true "Car Guys" in the world. Sure, there are "Corvette Guys" and "Mustang Guys" and "Porsche Guys" and "1960s American Muscle Car Guys" who love to love their chosen car and love to hate/denigrate "other" cars. There are also the "Status Car/Ego Guys" who love their cars, whether they are Porsches, Ferraris, or the newest generation of the Corvette, because it tells the world "I'm kind of a big deal around here and can spend big money on my ride."
Real "Car Guys" appreciate all cars for how well they do what they were intended to do and/or whether they do something in a new and innovative way. Real Car Guys are able to appreciate that hybrids and electrics further a technology that can extend and expand the freedom and opportunity of personal transportation. Naturally occurring fossil fuels are a finite resource and burning them clearly has negative impact on the environment (the one in which we all live). Just as the horse gave way to the horseless carriage and the propeller-driven bi-plane gave way to the P-51 which gave way to the F-104, internal combustion will eventually become an outdated, inefficient (but also historically important) technology. People still ride horses and fly Cessnas but mostly for the experience. In 20 years, 30 years, whatever, people will still have antique C5 Corvettes in their garage (this assumes the EBCM issue will be resolved by the aftermarket), parked next to their C11 Corvette solar powered hovercraft and their mid-size family sedan Hydrogen fuel cell Honda.
My engineer/computer scientist father (U.S. Army, retired) at 79 has a fleet that includes a '94 Jaguar XJS (with the 12-cylinder engine), an '07 BMW 650i, a '09 Saturn Sky Redline (the turbo), an '85 Lincoln Town Car ("A classic, son! One day it will be yours.), and my mother's car, a '10 Toyota Prius. Oh, and my '99 Corvette was his as well until he passed it on to me when there was no more room in the garage, driveway, or on the street. (Actually, it was when he "went out to the drug store" and came back with the Sky that my mother hit the roof and I got the call that I needed to help him out by taking the Corvette.) He has loved every car he's ever owned (even the station wagons that my mom drove for 20+ years of raising children) because there was something fascinating, cool, or memorable about every one of them. That is a real Car Guy.
Oh, and guess which car my parents travel in? Yep, the Prius. It is roomy and comfortable and Dad's engineering side is fascinated by the technology and he loves playing around with the MPGs. I've driven it a good bit - it takes some getting used to the lag/delay between stepping on the pedal and actual movement.
So, are you a true Car Guy? Many of the comments on this thread (and many others on this forum and on every car forum) indicate that most are not.
K9Leader
1999 Corvette
2003 Subaru Baja (my DD)
2000 Subaru Outback (Dog Wagon & winter backup car)
2013 Chevy Malibu (wife's company car/DD)
Previously Loved:
2004 Mazda 6 (son now has it)
1998 Acura 3.0 CL (daughter now has it)
1998 Toyota Sienna (yes, a minivan)
1994 Lincoln Mark VIII
1993 Volvo 940 (for my kids to drive while in high school)
1990 Ford Taurus (yes, a station wagon)
1987 Acura Integra
1987 Acura Integra (yes, two of them at the same time)
1986 Mazda B2000
1988 Mercury Tracer
1986 Jeep Cherokee
1975 Datsun 280Z
1983 Subaru GL
1977 Dodge Aspen
Real "Car Guys" appreciate all cars for how well they do what they were intended to do and/or whether they do something in a new and innovative way. Real Car Guys are able to appreciate that hybrids and electrics further a technology that can extend and expand the freedom and opportunity of personal transportation. Naturally occurring fossil fuels are a finite resource and burning them clearly has negative impact on the environment (the one in which we all live). Just as the horse gave way to the horseless carriage and the propeller-driven bi-plane gave way to the P-51 which gave way to the F-104, internal combustion will eventually become an outdated, inefficient (but also historically important) technology. People still ride horses and fly Cessnas but mostly for the experience. In 20 years, 30 years, whatever, people will still have antique C5 Corvettes in their garage (this assumes the EBCM issue will be resolved by the aftermarket), parked next to their C11 Corvette solar powered hovercraft and their mid-size family sedan Hydrogen fuel cell Honda.
My engineer/computer scientist father (U.S. Army, retired) at 79 has a fleet that includes a '94 Jaguar XJS (with the 12-cylinder engine), an '07 BMW 650i, a '09 Saturn Sky Redline (the turbo), an '85 Lincoln Town Car ("A classic, son! One day it will be yours.), and my mother's car, a '10 Toyota Prius. Oh, and my '99 Corvette was his as well until he passed it on to me when there was no more room in the garage, driveway, or on the street. (Actually, it was when he "went out to the drug store" and came back with the Sky that my mother hit the roof and I got the call that I needed to help him out by taking the Corvette.) He has loved every car he's ever owned (even the station wagons that my mom drove for 20+ years of raising children) because there was something fascinating, cool, or memorable about every one of them. That is a real Car Guy.
Oh, and guess which car my parents travel in? Yep, the Prius. It is roomy and comfortable and Dad's engineering side is fascinated by the technology and he loves playing around with the MPGs. I've driven it a good bit - it takes some getting used to the lag/delay between stepping on the pedal and actual movement.
So, are you a true Car Guy? Many of the comments on this thread (and many others on this forum and on every car forum) indicate that most are not.
K9Leader
1999 Corvette
2003 Subaru Baja (my DD)
2000 Subaru Outback (Dog Wagon & winter backup car)
2013 Chevy Malibu (wife's company car/DD)
Previously Loved:
2004 Mazda 6 (son now has it)
1998 Acura 3.0 CL (daughter now has it)
1998 Toyota Sienna (yes, a minivan)
1994 Lincoln Mark VIII
1993 Volvo 940 (for my kids to drive while in high school)
1990 Ford Taurus (yes, a station wagon)
1987 Acura Integra
1987 Acura Integra (yes, two of them at the same time)
1986 Mazda B2000
1988 Mercury Tracer
1986 Jeep Cherokee
1975 Datsun 280Z
1983 Subaru GL
1977 Dodge Aspen
Last edited by K9Leader; Mar 31, 2015 at 10:23 PM.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,989
Likes: 352
From: Carson City Nevada
Speaking of electric cars, my electric 1927 Ford Trac-T roadster just went out for paint and upholstery. This was a project a friend and I went in on. He lost interest, so I bought him out and it's almost ready. It really draws attention at the stop lights! I'll post some more pics when it's finally done.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 3,280
Likes: 1,097
From: Pittsburgh PA
A lot of these comments just confirm to me that there are not very many true "Car Guys" in the world. Sure, there are "Corvette Guys" and "Mustang Guys" and "Porsche Guys" and "1960s American Muscle Car Guys" who love to love their chosen car and love to hate/denigrate "other" cars. There are also the "Status Car/Ego Guys" who love their cars, whether they are Porsches, Ferraris, or the newest generation of the Corvette, because it tells the world "I'm kind of a big deal around here and can spend big money on my ride."
Real "Car Guys" appreciate all cars for how well they do what they were intended to do and/or whether they do something in a new and innovative way. Real Car Guys are able to appreciate that hybrids and electrics further a technology that can extend and expand the freedom and opportunity of personal transportation. Naturally occurring fossil fuels are a finite resource and burning them clearly has negative impact on the environment (the one in which we all live). Just as the horse gave way to the horseless carriage and the propeller-driven bi-plane gave way to the P-51 which gave way to the F-104, internal combustion will eventually become an outdated, inefficient (but also historically important) technology. People still ride horses and fly Cessnas but mostly for the experience. In 20 years, 30 years, whatever, people will still have antique C5 Corvettes in their garage (this assumes the EBCM issue will be resolved by the aftermarket), parked next to their C11 Corvette solar powered hovercraft and their mid-size family sedan Hydrogen fuel cell Honda.
My engineer/computer scientist father (U.S. Army, retired) at 79 has a fleet that includes a '94 Jaguar XJS (with the 12-cylinder engine), an '07 BMW 650i, a '09 Saturn Sky Redline (the turbo), an '85 Lincoln Town Car ("A classic, son! One day it will be yours.), and my mother's car, a '10 Toyota Prius. Oh, and my '99 Corvette was his as well until he passed it on to me when there was no more room in the garage, driveway, or on the street. (Actually, it was when he "went out to the drug store" and came back with the Sky that my mother hit the roof and I got the call that I needed to help him out by taking the Corvette.) He has loved every car he's ever owned (even the station wagons that my mom drove for 20+ years of raising children) because there was something fascinating, cool, or memorable about every one of them. That is a real Car Guy.
Oh, and guess which car my parents travel in? Yep, the Prius. It is roomy and comfortable and Dad's engineering side is fascinated by the technology and he loves playing around with the MPGs. I've driven it a good bit - it takes some getting used to the lag/delay between stepping on the pedal and actual movement.
So, are you a true Car Guy? Many of the comments on this thread (and many others on this forum and on every car forum) indicate that most are not.
K9Leader
1999 Corvette
2003 Subaru Baja (my DD)
2000 Subaru Outback (Dog Wagon & winter backup car)
2013 Chevy Malibu (wife's company car/DD)
Previously Loved:
2004 Mazda 6 (son now has it)
1998 Acura 3.0 CL (daughter now has it)
1998 Toyota Sienna (yes, a minivan)
1994 Lincoln Mark VIII
1993 Volvo 940 (for my kids to drive while in high school)
1990 Ford Taurus (yes, a station wagon)
1987 Acura Integra
1987 Acura Integra (yes, two of them at the same time)
1986 Mazda B2000
1988 Mercury Tracer
1986 Jeep Cherokee
1975 Datsun 280Z
1983 Subaru GL
1977 Dodge Aspen
Real "Car Guys" appreciate all cars for how well they do what they were intended to do and/or whether they do something in a new and innovative way. Real Car Guys are able to appreciate that hybrids and electrics further a technology that can extend and expand the freedom and opportunity of personal transportation. Naturally occurring fossil fuels are a finite resource and burning them clearly has negative impact on the environment (the one in which we all live). Just as the horse gave way to the horseless carriage and the propeller-driven bi-plane gave way to the P-51 which gave way to the F-104, internal combustion will eventually become an outdated, inefficient (but also historically important) technology. People still ride horses and fly Cessnas but mostly for the experience. In 20 years, 30 years, whatever, people will still have antique C5 Corvettes in their garage (this assumes the EBCM issue will be resolved by the aftermarket), parked next to their C11 Corvette solar powered hovercraft and their mid-size family sedan Hydrogen fuel cell Honda.
My engineer/computer scientist father (U.S. Army, retired) at 79 has a fleet that includes a '94 Jaguar XJS (with the 12-cylinder engine), an '07 BMW 650i, a '09 Saturn Sky Redline (the turbo), an '85 Lincoln Town Car ("A classic, son! One day it will be yours.), and my mother's car, a '10 Toyota Prius. Oh, and my '99 Corvette was his as well until he passed it on to me when there was no more room in the garage, driveway, or on the street. (Actually, it was when he "went out to the drug store" and came back with the Sky that my mother hit the roof and I got the call that I needed to help him out by taking the Corvette.) He has loved every car he's ever owned (even the station wagons that my mom drove for 20+ years of raising children) because there was something fascinating, cool, or memorable about every one of them. That is a real Car Guy.
Oh, and guess which car my parents travel in? Yep, the Prius. It is roomy and comfortable and Dad's engineering side is fascinated by the technology and he loves playing around with the MPGs. I've driven it a good bit - it takes some getting used to the lag/delay between stepping on the pedal and actual movement.
So, are you a true Car Guy? Many of the comments on this thread (and many others on this forum and on every car forum) indicate that most are not.
K9Leader
1999 Corvette
2003 Subaru Baja (my DD)
2000 Subaru Outback (Dog Wagon & winter backup car)
2013 Chevy Malibu (wife's company car/DD)
Previously Loved:
2004 Mazda 6 (son now has it)
1998 Acura 3.0 CL (daughter now has it)
1998 Toyota Sienna (yes, a minivan)
1994 Lincoln Mark VIII
1993 Volvo 940 (for my kids to drive while in high school)
1990 Ford Taurus (yes, a station wagon)
1987 Acura Integra
1987 Acura Integra (yes, two of them at the same time)
1986 Mazda B2000
1988 Mercury Tracer
1986 Jeep Cherokee
1975 Datsun 280Z
1983 Subaru GL
1977 Dodge Aspen
