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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 05:39 PM
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Got the joke, Bill. Just needed to make sure everyone understands my revulsion of those covers. Many have bought those - not sure how anyone justifies something like that. It's good we all have different taste. Variety is the spice of life - or so I'm told.
You would only know about the spices, if the labels where facing forward... Can you say OCD?

I think my meds are giving me some mood swings...

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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 05:42 PM
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The secret to keeping those rotors looking so good is that they are Baer rotors they are the best

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Amen to that! The worst part about the painting was I had only a few hours before the paint would set, and no longer be good to apply. Now that they're done, and the pads/rotors are new, I shouldn't have to worry about doing that again, any time soon!

My wife reminds me, often, that I'm not as young as I used to be.... my body reminded me of that last night (and today).

Your car looks great! What's the secret to keeping the rotors looking like that?
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
I agree with the comment that yes it was a lot of work, but when you are done you will look back and say you did a good job.
Any Time ED posts anything he has done , it always impresses me, and to note, he is a nice guy too. always willing to help, he can also be very OCD.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 06:14 PM
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You would only know about the spices, if the labels where facing forward... Can you say OCD?

I think my meds are giving me some mood swings...


Wait a minute . . . to a fellow OCD'er.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 06:27 PM
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Been there... done that!

Painted my rotors right after I first bought the car, but finally decided to go the powder-coating route several years ago to eliminate the maintenance.




I feel your pain removing the Caliper Bracket Bolts. I tried everything as you did. Tried breaker bar, extender, and even finally bought a more powerful impact wrench - NOTHING! I finally decided that they were "welded" on! Then I read a post which suggested applying "heat" to the bolt heads first. In desperation, I tried that carefully using a Propane torch and they all came out like "butter" with the impact wrench once that red Locktite was softened by the heat. I also replaced my rotors later after I had the powder-coated calipers installed, but switched to using a Heat-Gun over the Torch to help protect the powder coating and that worked just as well. So "heat" is the secret (as Bill suggested).

I also had the Spring Clips pop off when removing the rear rotors, I found that inventing some new profanities helped!

New calipers with old rotors (rotors have since been replaced)...

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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 07:50 PM
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Updated OP with a couple pics.

Overall, I'm not ecstatic about the final product. It's looks good, but I thought it would be better. I may decide to get some high heat rattle can paint, and do them again. This time I'd take them off completely. For now, they'll stay as is.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Choreo
Been there... done that!

Painted my rotors right after I first bought the car, but finally decided to go the powder-coating route several years ago to eliminate the maintenance.




I feel your pain removing the Caliper Bracket Bolts. I tried everything as you did. Tried breaker bar, extender, and even finally bought a more powerful impact wrench - NOTHING! I finally decided that they were "welded" on! Then I read a post which suggested applying "heat" to the bolt heads first. In desperation, I tried that carefully using a Propane torch and they all came out like "butter" with the impact wrench once that red Locktite was softened by the heat. I also replaced my rotors later after I had the powder-coated calipers installed, but switched to using a Heat-Gun over the Torch to help protect the powder coating and that worked just as well. So "heat" is the secret (as Bill suggested).

I also had the Spring Clips pop off when removing the rear rotors, I found that inventing some new profanities helped!

New calipers with old rotors (rotors have since been replaced)...
My next step was applying heat.

There's no doubt I invented a few swear words doing this.
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 01:04 PM
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Two common things in Corvette maintenance that you need to man up for; the brake brackets, and the crankshaft bolt. Both were pretty easy for me, but I did use a breaker bar.
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Originally Posted by zeevette
Two common things in Corvette maintenance that you need to man up for; the brake brackets, and the crankshaft bolt. Both were pretty easy for me, but I did use a breaker bar.
Archimedes apparently never experienced the C5 brake bracket bolts or he would have come to a different conclusion regarding levers!
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3-4ft pole and 1/2in Rachel will bust them bolts loose everytime.
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Rachet. ...dam technology
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Vettemaster1985
Rachet. ...dam technology
Way before Archimedes, the first technology was fire...way before the wheel, or the lever
A little fire on those bracket bolts, and like magic, you can use a 1/4 inch ratchet. Work smart, not hard.

Prometheus, for example, stole fire from the heavens ( capturing a lightning strike in a hollow tube, one of the feats which gave him the reputation of being a great benefactor of men.'

After the transportation of fire was solved, it was occasionally borrowed, and while the meaning is lost, the phrase is still used when one says: "May I borrow a light?"'

This issue of fire has always been a part of the earliest cave drawings.
The earliest of these drawings are 40,800 years old. Fire the first technology. I used it to remove my rear caliper brackets.

Just little engineering 101.
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Leverage built the pyramids, fire cooked the lunch, after leverage was applied... a 3ft pole and a dad bod will loosen any bolt...and maybe a few skirts...
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 09:57 PM
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, I had the same problem with the bolts too when I did my rotors, I borrowed an electric impact gun and that did the trick. Not before busting some knuckles.

Nice end result it was worth it !!!
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I did the brakes a while ago....and at my age, used a couple cheaters.
A little stool with wheels and a tray for tools and parts. And an electric and a battery powered impact wrench for stubborn bolts.
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 09:27 AM
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I'm still sore after nearly a week. Lesson learned, that's for sure. My last resort would have been some heat, which I should have done anyway. I used a breaker bar, just like this one.



It wasn't easy, and I was a tad angry, so I focused all that energy and busted them all loose. I really hope I never have to do that again. The fronts were a little easier with turning the hubs to the left and right, allowing a better access. The rears.... I was under the rear bumper, using feet, legs, shoulders.... anything!
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 11:12 AM
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One reason a lot of impact wrenches don't make their advertised torque may be caused by using too small of a fitting. You got to have CFM.
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Originally Posted by BAT
It wasn't easy, and I was a tad angry, so I focused all that energy and busted them all loose. I really hope I never have to do that again. The fronts were a little easier with turning the hubs to the left and right, allowing a better access. The rears.... I was under the rear bumper, using feet, legs, shoulders.... anything!
I still could not get mine loose with a breaker bar, but then again I was reluctant to apply that much pressure at that distance (my 3-foot Snap-On 1/2" drive breaker bar was already bowing!) - I could just see a bolt head snapping off, a socket cracking, etc. sending my tool through a body panel and me to the ER (I am paranoid after having two Craftsman 5/8" sockets split on me in the past when torquing head bolts on C3's, both times requiring stitches!) - so I knew there had to be a better way!

Once I applied heat, they were easily removed with my impact - even with one hand on the tool.

The red Locktite is needed however on these. In fact they recommend replacing the caliper bracket bolts with new factory replacements (which come pre-coated with a red Locktite type substance) - so that is what I did.

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Default There is another way to do this job too.

I've actually done this. You can use the weight of the car to break those bolts . by jacking the car up.

Using a ratchet with a small pipe. set the socket on the bolt, and set the ratchet to 45 degrees and have the pipe contact the ground. have the car high enough to lock the ratchet engagement point. Now all you have to do is lower the car, and the weight of the car will break the bolt lose.
You have to have a jack that is well controlled, so you can control the speed of decent.
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^That is thinking. You could put the jack under the breaker bar too.

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