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It would be interesting to go Mid engine, but you can count on all those
"I daily my C5, C6, C7" owners going away. A mid engine car is not fun to daily. If Corvette lost that demographic, it would loose out on a lot of sales.
No matter to me, I won't spend C7 money, much less more.
The rumors I heard stated that there would be two lines. The corvette we all know at typical pricing, and a mid engine version with other tweaks and supporting design changes starting at 125k. I like history and seeing it, but I also like new designs and moving forward with a car that has essentially been the same for the past 20 years. I see both sides of the coin, but I don't think they are appealing to the rich. More people want to get into racing these days than ever. I have a friend who's an engineer (civil) who has a group of friends together that races a car. I believe there are 4 of them. They started off with some sort of Nissan and are now driving a fairly new BMW. I know they have close to 75k in that car with all the builds and mods. I could see them pooling together and purchasing a 100k car that was ready to go. I could also see me, who would love to have a supercar, getting one as I get more stable. It's either that or rebuild a supercar and I've learned the hard way that building is always more expensive.
The rumors I heard stated that there would be two lines. The corvette we all know at typical pricing, and a mid engine version with other tweaks and supporting design changes starting at 125k. I like history and seeing it, but I also like new designs and moving forward with a car that has essentially been the same for the past 20 years. I see both sides of the coin, but I don't think they are appealing to the rich. More people want to get into racing these days than ever. I have a friend who's an engineer (civil) who has a group of friends together that races a car. I believe there are 4 of them. They started off with some sort of Nissan and are now driving a fairly new BMW. I know they have close to 75k in that car with all the builds and mods. I could see them pooling together and purchasing a 100k car that was ready to go. I could also see me, who would love to have a supercar, getting one as I get more stable. It's either that or rebuild a supercar and I've learned the hard way that building is always more expensive.
You really are not in touch with this issue are you... GM makes a 120 K C7 Z Semi carbon. any attempt at a Mid engine car would be a clean sheet of paper.. needing a 1/4 million projected units. I know first hand what that takes, and what the cost to manufacturer and what the unit projection has to be ( the demographic ) to make any project a go at GM/ Corvette. GM/ Corvette is not the ***** to the wall racing machine that you think it is.. many at GM see no real push to get deep into racing. To many uninformed dreamers on this forum. 80 % of the Corvettes built never see a race track.
I've been hearing that same story from popular mechanics and Motor trend since 1960... Although I left GM in 2001 and from the Corvette design studio.. that mid engine rumor has been just a joke ( in house )for the last 50 years. Along those same rumor mills say its going to be a DOHC engine. Also culturally and historically, poison for the Corvette Brand.
But who knows, I saw the Euro look being slowly introduced into the American heritage of what was once an American Icon, looks like they want to turn it into a multi national icon. IM happy I left GM when I did.
I never worked a day in my life while there.
Bill aka ET
Now that is exactly how I felt about my position. Once they had a take your dad to work day! My dad asked at the end of the day," When are you going to get a job?" LOL.
say it ain't so, we're getting further and further away from our roots. One day we will wake up to the announcement GM will no longer produce a Corvette...
Some days I think as see them wrecked and parted out, that they will become more scarce on the roads. Like my 71. Today what I paid 5K for is worth 50K and a good one is somewhat a rarity.Hard to believe, but it was a 350/350 and my 350 C5 will eat it for lunch all day and is a much better, safer and cooler car.
You really are not in touch with this issue are you... GM makes a 120 K C7 Z Semi carbon. any attempt at a Mid engine car would be a clean sheet of paper.. needing a 1/4 million projected units. I know first hand what that takes, and what the cost to manufacturer and what the unit projection has to be ( the demographic ) to make any project a go at GM/ Corvette. GM/ Corvette is not the ***** to the wall racing machine that you think it is.. many at GM see no real push to get deep into racing. To many uninformed dreamers on this forum. 80 % of the Corvettes built never see a race track.
I'm not in touch with the issue as you see it, which isn't necessarily the only way to see it. While I respect your opinion, just because it wasn't an option when you were there, doesn't mean it hasn't become relevant now. On that side, there are tons of rumors in the car world that do come true eventually. For that matter in the world in general. Demographics change, directions change, and companies change.
If you'd read my post I stated that I heard a rumor. That doesn't make me uninformed, I was honest about what I had heard. I never said it will go into production. I played advocate for the possible uses and ideas that could make a car like that a viable model for a business. I actually think GM is as far from a "racing oriented" company as they can be at this point. You've made an assumption into my thinking because I didn't fit the model you've perceived, and didn't realize that I was presenting a case for the possibility and not for the probability.
Some days I think as see them wrecked and parted out, that they will become more scarce on the roads. Like my 71. Today what I paid 5K for is worth 50K and a good one is somewhat a rarity.Hard to believe, but it was a 350/350 and my 350 C5 will eat it for lunch all day and is a much better, safer and cooler car.
The exact reason nobody should worry about a "kid" chopping one up, lower/stance whatever, it only helps your car keep value instead of depreciating.
IM old. this rumor surfaces about every 8 to ten years, I've been down this road and all the rumor mongers swearing they know something too many times to count. People who perpetuate this stuff, only fuels the waste of band width. It starts with spy photos, then the hype in the car mags.. just exactly like this one.. its all about hyping the subscription water mark to sell copies. A mid engine design would have to be in the works for a least five years to design, test, certify, and set up the supply stream. Designing production Corvettes are done at the Corvette design studio. Concepts are done at Skunk works facility and the interaction with a concept and a production design take five or six years to develop. I should probably stay out of this thread and let the dreamers dream.
May all your dreams come true.
Bill aka ET
I never really followed corvettes before I got my C5 but in the past with rumors where there spy photos of camouflaged obvious mid engine cars spotted?
It does not matter to me, my dream car is actually a '59 convertible Impala, not a world class super car. Unless of course I have some sort of life changing windfall of cash drop in my lap.
IM old. this rumor surfaces about every 8 to ten years, I've been down this road and all the rumor mongers swearing they know something too many times to count. People who perpetuate this stuff, only fuels the waste of band width. It starts with spy photos, then the hype in the car mags.. just exactly like this one.. its all about hyping the subscription water mark to sell copies. A mid engine design would have to be in the works for a least five years to design, test, certify, and set up the supply stream. Designing production Corvettes are done at the Corvette design studio. Concepts are done at Skunk works facility and the interaction with a concept and a production design take five or six years to develop. I should probably stay out of this thread and let the dreamers dream.
May all your dreams come true.
Bill aka ET
Maybe you know something and are sworn to secrecy.......don't worry I won't say a word
I never really followed corvettes before I got my C5 but in the past with rumors where there spy photos of camouflaged obvious mid engine cars spotted?
No. In the past when there were mid-engine rumors, it was nothing but wishful thinking. There were never any spy shots of mid-engine test mules like now. Some people do not like change. But it's coming.
Don't see a need for a Corvette with the engine behind the driver. If you want an exotic, just buy an exotic.
I know where you are on this and couldn't agree more but what would we have thought in the 60's if they said they were going to make next years Corvette a trans-axel setup like in the Pontiac Tempest when they first came out
I guess if the super expensive supercars are all going that way then the Corvette will have to also to compete with them.
It seems like we accept most things after a while. But's sure hard in the beginning.
I'll never have to worry about one of those myself though that's for sure.
I understand this rumor has been floating around longer than I've been alive, but from I've seen and read it seems GM has gone a bit further this time around.
Now according to a certain individual GM would need 3-5yrs to "design, test, certify, and set up the supply stream," which seems right. Regarding tooling/manufacturing etc I read that the C7 frame was designed as modular with mid-engine in mind, which makes sense especially when the first shots of this cobbled Holden mule was in Jan 2015.
Sure, wouldn't be difficult to dismiss this bastardized El-Camino wannabe, but there's a C7 roof, cabin and what absolutely appears to be an engine in the rear.
Now two years later a further developed vehicle that looks far more like a sports car and again a rear mounted engine.
If anyone dismisses this particular mule as not mid-engine, I would suggest they get an eye exam. Seriously.
There's one fact: GM has a mid-engined car.
The coin toss is whether it will be branded as a Corvette or oddly enough a Cadillac according to some. If the 3-5yr time line is to be followed it's unlikely any official news will come out until after 2018 (I mean seriously, it's been 2yrs since the first mule was spotted...another 2yrs, fits). I believe during the auto show circuit this year they will intro the hi-po C7; the one runnin around with the high and low pro wing. Then it's a waiting game for the debut of the mid-engine car.
I'll be back to this when it debuts, so in the meantime enjoy dismissing these spy shots and rumors as simple vaporware.
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