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Alright, I looked but didn't see this anywhere. My 2002 C5 Coupe with 140K miles has had a drooping headliner for the past 60K miles or so. Hate driving the thing without a hat since the headliner hangs on my head. Finally cut the old stuff completely out and replaced with a 3/16ths foam-backed black headliner material purchased on E-Bay. Great solution in case anybody else has seen this. Again, not a major problem, but one that could have easily been avoided if GM used better materials.
Alright, I looked but didn't see this anywhere. My 2002 C5 Coupe with 140K miles has had a drooping headliner for the past 60K miles or so. Hate driving the thing without a hat since the headliner hangs on my head. Finally cut the old stuff completely out and replaced with a 3/16ths foam-backed black headliner material purchased on E-Bay. Great solution in case anybody else has seen this. Again, not a major problem, but one that could have easily been avoided if GM used better materials.
I understand your frustrations, but let's be honest, nothing lasts forever. My '01 coupe is a low mileage car, and when it's not being driven, it's usually parked in the garage, out of direct sunlight. However, it is a black car, which gets hotter inside, so last year, the adhesive that originally held the headliner in place, began to let go.
I carefully removed the headliner from the roof, removed as much of the original, failing adhesive from both surfaces, bought a roll of the super sticky 3M trim tape, put several lines of the tape across the inside of the roof panel, and re-installed the OE headliner. So far so good....
Nice solution to an annoying problem. How about some pics?
(Bad) photo of replacement black foam-backed C5 headliner
Replacement C5 foam headliner material
Here are a couple of not-so-great photos of the finished material installation. I removed the old headliner material, insulation, and as much of the glue as possible. Then I cleaned the inside of the top with alcohol and let it dry. Then I made a template from cardboard with an exacto knife. Using the template, I cut the new, foam-backed material about a quarter of an inch oversize to allow me to tuck the ends into the top. Using spray glue, I attached the new foam material to the top. It came out well -- not perfect, but well. I like this material better than the original material because it can't sag. The material is permanently bonded to the foam backing which is glued to the top. The material from E-Bay was designed for headliners. I now enjoy a good quarter inch or more of additional headroom compared to the factory solution.There's not a lot of headroom in the car, so every bit helps and it now does not sag at all!
Did you just glue the material right to the targa top or did you reuse the old head liner hard plastic inside the old headlinerl?
I removed the cloth headliner, then the layer of tan-colored insulation that was below it. Below that was some hard plastic, I believe just the bottom side of the targa top. I got as much of the residual glue and tape off as possible, cleaned it with alcohol, and applied the foam-backed material using spray adhesive. I think it's on to stay!
I removed the cloth headliner, then the layer of tan-colored insulation that was below it. Below that was some hard plastic, I believe just the bottom side of the targa top. I got as much of the residual glue and tape off as possible, cleaned it with alcohol, and applied the foam-backed material using spray adhesive. I think it's on to stay!
So you didn't reuse the hard plastic? Reason I ask is that I have a targa top and it is missing the whole liner. I was wondering if I could just take the black foam and stick it right to the targa top.
I work in a high end automotive upholstery shop here in Vegas. Headliners aren't a C5 or, Corvette problem but an issue with all sorts of cars. The most common cars we see come in with headliner issues are European luxury cars (especially Jaguars) and GM SUV's.
Be thankful GM doesn't use genuine leather for their headliners like luxury brands. It shrinks over time and requires complete replacement which is insanely expensive. We have a late model Bentley in the shop right now with a sagging headliner and the bill will be $$$. Ferrari dash boards are another common trouble spot. They use genuine leather on the dash which is absolutely beautiful but, being a natural material if it spends any time in the sun the material shrinks and pulls the dash out of form. requires removal of the dash to repair correctly. Runs at least several thousand.
Natural, high quality materials are beautiful but such a pain the *** and expensive to repair. Synthetics/imitation materials are usually much more durable. Mercedes calls it's faux leather "MB-tex" which looks just like real leather but wears like iron.
The issue is more the glue the OEM's use, not so much material. Thankfully the Corvette has a small roof and is simple to repair.
Replacement C5 foam headliner material
Here are a couple of not-so-great photos of the finished material installation. I removed the old headliner material, insulation, and as much of the glue as possible. Then I cleaned the inside of the top with alcohol and let it dry. Then I made a template from cardboard with an exacto knife. Using the template, I cut the new, foam-backed material about a quarter of an inch oversize to allow me to tuck the ends into the top. Using spray glue, I attached the new foam material to the top. It came out well -- not perfect, but well. I like this material better than the original material because it can't sag. The material is permanently bonded to the foam backing which is glued to the top. The material from E-Bay was designed for headliners. I now enjoy a good quarter inch or more of additional headroom compared to the factory solution.There's not a lot of headroom in the car, so every bit helps and it now does not sag at all![/QUOTE]
Was there a specific name for the product you bought off of Ebay? I want to try this as well. Thanks!
Replacement C5 foam headliner material
Here are a couple of not-so-great photos of the finished material installation. I removed the old headliner material, insulation, and as much of the glue as possible. Then I cleaned the inside of the top with alcohol and let it dry. Then I made a template from cardboard with an exacto knife. Using the template, I cut the new, foam-backed material about a quarter of an inch oversize to allow me to tuck the ends into the top. Using spray glue, I attached the new foam material to the top. It came out well -- not perfect, but well. I like this material better than the original material because it can't sag. The material is permanently bonded to the foam backing which is glued to the top. The material from E-Bay was designed for headliners. I now enjoy a good quarter inch or more of additional headroom compared to the factory solution.There's not a lot of headroom in the car, so every bit helps and it now does not sag at all!
Was there a specific name for the product you bought off of Ebay? I want to try this as well. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Here is what is was called on EBAY . . .
Seller was luvfabrics818. Note that the amount that comes is enough for about 10 cars, so if you know somebody in your area who needs some, team up with them. A few weeks later and I love it!
Seller was luvfabrics818. Note that the amount that comes is enough for about 10 cars, so if you know somebody in your area who needs some, team up with them. A few weeks later and I love it![/QUOTE]
Seller was luvfabrics818. Note that the amount that comes is enough for about 10 cars, so if you know somebody in your area who needs some, team up with them. A few weeks later and I love it!
Good for you finding the smaller size of material. Even that is more than big enough. I have a feeling I'll use what I have to help some of the other C5 owners as their cars age.