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Old 05-14-2019, 05:32 PM
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There's nothing like getting new tires........ Especially when your old tires are 7-8 years old. After way too much research and procrastination, 4 new Michelin PS 4S tires on my Z. Wow, what a difference! I don't want to say what tires I came from since many on here use and like them. Let's just say age is not a friend of any tire. Unlike myself, where age seems to be ok, in my opinion. (Much better than the alternative.) Anyway, the PS 4S seems to be an excellent tire and a big improvement over what I had. Now just need a destination for a road trip......
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I have the PS4S on my Z as well. Amazing tire. In my opinion the best tire in it's class.
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:00 PM
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Amazing how much tires effect ride quality.

I guess they are like new athletic shoes for your car.
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I was going to go with Hankook on my 99, then we put my old Super Sports on our C 5 Z and what a difference from the AS we had on that car !!! So I decided to stick with Michelin's and installed the PS 4's on my 99, WOW !!!!
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:08 PM
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I have MICH PS on mine but was thinking of going with Firestone 500's because they are on sell, are the MICH alot better than those.......?
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I think replacing Old Tires with new supple rubber will always be feel good thing. I would always avoid the use of the word " WOW " that would indicate ( at least to me ) that whatever tires they had before must have been real crap to offer the term WOW as an indicator of how poor their tires were.
Ive replaced many tires over 60 years of driving and over a million miles, The transition from old tires to New tire was not that dramatic... Since nothing ever happened with the old tires, I only replaced them as a precaution. due to time or usage.
I would reserve the word " WOW" to an experience like my first sex.. in my world getting new tires does not rise to the term " WOW "

BTW for those that dont get it... this is tongue in cheek.... my sense of humor.
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I have MICH PS on mine but was thinking of going with Firestone 500's because they are on sell, are the MICH a lot better than those.......?
I went with Indy 500's on my C6Z rims and really like them, especially for the price.
The OEM tires were aging and tram-lining on the highway bad enough to make you psychotic.

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Old 05-14-2019, 07:11 PM
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I have yet to own a better tire than the Michelins.
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Old 05-14-2019, 07:31 PM
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I have yet to own a better tire than the Michelins.
What in your mind determines a better tire. ? I can see, price, wet and dry traction etc. BUT spirited driving on the street is Not pushing the performance envelope... Ive taken clover leaf's at 70 mph with many types of tires and sports cars over 60 years.. Ive never felt faulted in anyway by any tire that was on my car. Ive had everything from Michelins to Atlas Bucron ( the original street slicks circa 1960 ).
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin View Post
What in your mind determines a better tire. ? I can see, price, wet and dry traction etc. BUT spirited driving on the street is Not pushing the performance envelope... Ive taken clover leaf's at 70 mph with many types of tires and sports cars over 60 years.. Ive never felt faulted in anyway by any tire that was on my car. Ive had everything from Michelins to Atlas Bucron ( the original street slicks circa 1960 ).
I understand what you're saying but if the extra $$$$ doesn't matter too much then buy the PS4S. Best high performance summer street tire in it's class. You have to move to a 200TW tire to beat it's dry grip and it has excellent wet grip and wear characteristics.

IMO I'd rather have the best tire for my Vette because in the event I need to stop fast or do an emergency lane change the tire can be the difference between avoiding an accident or not.
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:12 PM
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I have been very pleased with the Michelins.
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Your point is well taken.. I always say to people who question why a Corvette and the need for that HP... the extra HP is a defensive tool to get out of the way of an escalating problem… Its like my argument for more Octane... you may not need it but when you do need it, its nice to have it. I think the selected tire compound and tire is more determined by your driving habits, budget, and need for a certain aesthetic look.
for others.. they could care less if they choose 4 different manufacturer tires for their car. ( to some , as long as its the right size, that's all that counts.

I was asking the question specifically to that guy with the blue car., the guy who has a space for my car in his garage. But your response was welcome also.
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It’s the best tire on the market. Only complaint I have is that they are so soft I burnt through them too quickly. Switched to the a/s 3+ for the time being. But I’ll be back to the ps.
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in my case went from Pilot Super Sports to the P4s and STILL way better (newer tech) and WOW,WOW, WOW, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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if you don't or ever had Michelins what is your basis of opinion ??????????????
I agree Pounder but visa versa is also true.

I wasn't a fan of the run flats.

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Bill, thank you for having a part in the design of my dream car. Your wisdom and experience is appreciated.
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The Michelin PS 4S is very similar to the Continental Extreme Contact Sport. I have the Conti Sports and have been very happy with them. I know a few guys who have the Michelin 4S's and they're telling me that they're a great tire with a little more grip than the Conti' s which makes sense because they have lower treadwear rating. My only complaint with the Michelins which is nothing new is the price, but they've always made quality tires. My favorite are the Michelin Cup tires, extremely expensive and very low tread life, but also as close to track only tires you can get that are still street legal.

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Ive forgotten more than I could ever teach you.
Since you seems to laugh your *** off at yourself all the time.. Yes I did do time at the Michelin center. At Gm we had to do 80 hours a year of School to keep our credentials in compliance ( every year of my 30 year career ). And for the other finger pointer,,,( how do you know Michelins if you've never had them ) I already said Ive had Michelin's on this C5 and on others.. ( " Ive had everything from Michelins to Atlas Bucrons " ) I know carcass structure , band technology and most importantly compound formulation, I know the inherent differences from one mold to another, I know shrink values in the manufacturing process.. So easy to see the haters, and the wanna be's Haters, jealous or the inability to read? Its amazing what an education can teach you,,

Teach yourself some humility, professor. You hit and run every time someone challenges your authority. You must have some major insecurities about that magnificent brain of yours, being that you feel the need to stroke your ego at every opportunity that presents itself.
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I don't understand the debate.
There can't be one tire that's best for everyone.
We have different terrain, climate, suspension set-ups and needs.
The only comparison most people can make is there old worn tires to brand new ones.
Vendors web sights have plenty of user reviews for anyone shopping but there seems to be a consensus here of a few popular brands.

I think the real issue is the lack of choices for "17 tires.
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What in your mind determines a better tire. ? I can see, price, wet and dry traction etc. BUT spirited driving on the street is Not pushing the performance envelope... Ive taken clover leaf's at 70 mph with many types of tires and sports cars over 60 years.. Ive never felt faulted in anyway by any tire that was on my car. Ive had everything from Michelins to Atlas Bucron ( the original street slicks circa 1960 ).
I make a direct comparison every time I drive my 99 and 02. The 99 has the Continental Extreme Contact Sports on it and the 02 has Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I'm like you, I take exit and on-ramps with extreme speed and I can CONFIDENTLY say the Michelin tires grip better around the corners. I've also had other tires in the past and none grip like the Super Sports, not even the so called sticky BFG KDW-2s I had on my 98. I cannot speak on the PS 4S tires as I've yet to own a pair. Even though it's illegal, I routinely do 100+ (I'll deny it though ) and I prefer a good set of tires contacting the road. Plus, I always try and buy "Made in the USA" when I can
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