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Old Sep 13, 2019 | 09:28 PM
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I believe I’ve already replied to this thread but something occurred to me recently- looks/interior aside- the C7 is really the gen that’s “dated” in a way IMO b/c it still rides on leafs, still has a TC auto, still is front engine RWD & I’m thinking will go down as a “stop gap” measure while they dialed in the C8 correctly- you’re kidding yourself if you think GM, post bankruptcy trying to pad their wallets- really put that much effort & R&D into the C7 vs. the C5 before it debuted. The A8 is a known POS- why else would they immediately be working on a joint 10 speed w/ ford? The A8s in my multiple K2 GM trucks were garbage.

The C6 is really a C5.5 itself but that’s another debate

The C8 will make the C7 more “dated” and “out of place” than its older C5/C6 brothers b/c it’s essentially the same “tired” formula in its last iteration before they really reinvented the vette.

At the end of the day the corvette is a sports car that people buy cuz it’s fast & handles great & competes w/ other sports cars/exotics as an exceptional bang for the buck. Alcantara headliners aside- the C7 Z06 for instance overheats & ***** the bed @ the track, is offered w/ a TC auto, & to date as far as I know has yet to surpass a C6 Z06 bone stock for ultimate performance, let alone a C6 ZR1

the front engine/RWD platform had reached its limits already w/ the C6 generation, but b/c GM wasn’t finished/ready to drop a mid-engine vette w/ dual clutch tranny (something ALL the other legit competitors of the vette started to offer already during the C6 years) they slapped a SC & scoops & fancy interior & edgy sheet metal but the ultimate performance amounted to nothing superior to a C6 in reality.

fastest stock c6z is 10.9 fastest stock C7Z? 10.9 lol

i really think the C7 is gonna go down as the “black sheep” of modern vettes- the Emergence of the C8 is gonna kill its mojo....& most certainly it’s value, especially when you can get a BASE C8 for $60k brand spanking new w/ a warranty, & considering it’s being advertised by GM as capable of dropping 11.3 @ 121mph it’ll also be faster/better performing than a god damn C7 Z06 if history repeats itself & ranger can knock a few more tenths off lol!!
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 06:16 PM
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It obviously has purpose, along with the front splitter,, looks like the whole back of the car is customized. I'm guessing it's not running 400hp. Plus there's a NHRA decal on it.
Gee, I just figured out you guys are talking about me......................................
Wing..down force, splitter front and rear down force, cunards, vortec generators, rear diffuser................................ ............down force.
I run 800 plus hp, with a supercharger and alky.
I like it just like it is .....control.
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 06:44 PM
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I figured it did. And I also figured you had a ton of power to have that thing to serve a purpose.


I just kind of am like Jay Leno - I kind of detest fins, even when they do serve a purpose.


Nothing against you/your car in particular, it's just my preference. Your car is still hot.
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by C5Dobie
I believe I’ve already replied to this thread but something occurred to me recently- looks/interior aside- the C7 is really the gen that’s “dated” in a way IMO b/c it still rides on leafs, still has a TC auto, still is front engine RWD & I’m thinking will go down as a “stop gap” measure while they dialed in the C8 correctly- you’re kidding yourself if you think GM, post bankruptcy trying to pad their wallets- really put that much effort & R&D into the C7 vs. the C5 before it debuted. The A8 is a known POS- why else would they immediately be working on a joint 10 speed w/ ford? The A8s in my multiple K2 GM trucks were garbage.

The C6 is really a C5.5 itself but that’s another debate

The C8 will make the C7 more “dated” and “out of place” than its older C5/C6 brothers b/c it’s essentially the same “tired” formula in its last iteration before they really reinvented the vette.

At the end of the day the corvette is a sports car that people buy cuz it’s fast & handles great & competes w/ other sports cars/exotics as an exceptional bang for the buck. Alcantara headliners aside- the C7 Z06 for instance overheats & ***** the bed @ the track, is offered w/ a TC auto, & to date as far as I know has yet to surpass a C6 Z06 bone stock for ultimate performance, let alone a C6 ZR1

the front engine/RWD platform had reached its limits already w/ the C6 generation, but b/c GM wasn’t finished/ready to drop a mid-engine vette w/ dual clutch tranny (something ALL the other legit competitors of the vette started to offer already during the C6 years) they slapped a SC & scoops & fancy interior & edgy sheet metal but the ultimate performance amounted to nothing superior to a C6 in reality.

fastest stock c6z is 10.9 fastest stock C7Z? 10.9 lol

i really think the C7 is gonna go down as the “black sheep” of modern vettes- the Emergence of the C8 is gonna kill its mojo....& most certainly it’s value, especially when you can get a BASE C8 for $60k brand spanking new w/ a warranty, & considering it’s being advertised by GM as capable of dropping 11.3 @ 121mph it’ll also be faster/better performing than a god damn C7 Z06 if history repeats itself & ranger can knock a few more tenths off lol!!
You sir are my hero I'm ashamed to be driving this POS like you said, I'm underwater so I cant do Jack **** about it though, I salute you gonna trade it in for a GTR as soon as I can.
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by C5Dobie
I believe I’ve already replied to this thread but something occurred to me recently- looks/interior aside- the C7 is really the gen that’s “dated” in a way IMO b/c it still rides on leafs, still has a TC auto, still is front engine RWD & I’m thinking will go down as a “stop gap” measure while they dialed in the C8 correctly- you’re kidding yourself if you think GM, post bankruptcy trying to pad their wallets- really put that much effort & R&D into the C7 vs. the C5 before it debuted. The A8 is a known POS- why else would they immediately be working on a joint 10 speed w/ ford? The A8s in my multiple K2 GM trucks were garbage.

The C6 is really a C5.5 itself but that’s another debate

The C8 will make the C7 more “dated” and “out of place” than its older C5/C6 brothers b/c it’s essentially the same “tired” formula in its last iteration before they really reinvented the vette.

At the end of the day the corvette is a sports car that people buy cuz it’s fast & handles great & competes w/ other sports cars/exotics as an exceptional bang for the buck. Alcantara headliners aside- the C7 Z06 for instance overheats & ***** the bed @ the track, is offered w/ a TC auto, & to date as far as I know has yet to surpass a C6 Z06 bone stock for ultimate performance, let alone a C6 ZR1

the front engine/RWD platform had reached its limits already w/ the C6 generation, but b/c GM wasn’t finished/ready to drop a mid-engine vette w/ dual clutch tranny (something ALL the other legit competitors of the vette started to offer already during the C6 years) they slapped a SC & scoops & fancy interior & edgy sheet metal but the ultimate performance amounted to nothing superior to a C6 in reality.

fastest stock c6z is 10.9 fastest stock C7Z? 10.9 lol

i really think the C7 is gonna go down as the “black sheep” of modern vettes- the Emergence of the C8 is gonna kill its mojo....& most certainly it’s value, especially when you can get a BASE C8 for $60k brand spanking new w/ a warranty, & considering it’s being advertised by GM as capable of dropping 11.3 @ 121mph it’ll also be faster/better performing than a god damn C7 Z06 if history repeats itself & ranger can knock a few more tenths off lol!!
You're delusional. See C7 performance compared to other supercars below:
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/

These are SPORTS CARS, not DRAG CARS. Ignorant post.
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
You're delusional. See C7 performance compared to other supercars below:
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/

These are SPORTS CARS, not DRAG CARS. Ignorant post.

Yeah no kidding.....and SPORTS CARS during the time of C7 production had already gravitated more toward dual clutch tranny mid-engine design....not GT cars, not drag cars, SPORTS CARS - Cayman, BRZ, Mclaren, Ford GT, etc.

Missing my point - which is that considering the progress in sports car design & contemporary peers @ time of production the C7 to me is more "dated" - simply speaking in terms of basic fundamental layout - leaf spring, RWD, front engine, manual tranny, or torque converter auto - this is all "yesteryear" tech that have everything in common w/ C5/C6 vettes but was/is going in the wrong direction if the goal was to produce a world class SPORTS car. Dated in terms fundamentals, not dated in terms of LED lights, fancy sheetmetal, & soft touch interior - sorry.

I mean - the C8, IMO (and the opinion of many others) makes the C7 vette immediately stale & irrelevant, the C5/C5.5 are what they are & were very much cutting edge @ the time of production & are already considered "older cars" today - so I guess my point is more that the C8 seemingly advanced the age of the C7 dramatically in my eyes yet made the C5/C6 vettes actually more relevant b/c the biggest differences between the C7 & C8 generations are precisely what tie the C5-C7 together.
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Old Sep 22, 2019 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bills01vett
Nope.....I see so many pristine C5’s in SW Florida and they all draw attention here. I love mine especially in silver with black interior. Just updated the stereo to a pioneer touchscreen which the shop installed perfectly. I actually like the interior of the C5 more than the C6.
My only complaint is the audio system. I have to look into that setup. Looks good.
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Old Sep 22, 2019 | 09:36 PM
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Last week I was dropping off some lunch money for my son and his teacher asked if my car was the C8. He talks about the C8 and cars in general all the time, so that is probably the only reason she even knows there is a C8, but it still made me smile.
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I love my C5 FRC - sexy curves, lightweight, and just such a well engineered car. Easy to work on and reliable. Just ditched our C7 A8 nightmare and hoping the old girl keeps soldiering on. If there are parts, I am going to keep rolling.

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This past Wednesday, while driving "Cordelia" (with the top down of course), I passed two landscaping guys working in my neighborhood; they both stopped and watched the car go by, and one of them hollers to me, "Nice Vette!" I waved and hollered, "Thanks"!
Later that day, I'm at a stop light and a guy in a new white Camaro rolls up and stops right next to me; he gives me the thumbs up and also hollers, "Great Corvette, man"! He waved again as we moved through the intersection.
I don't think "dated" cars get those kind of accolades unsolicited from strangers, and they didn't say, "that's a nice old car".
It's nice to know that people continue to have such a visceral reaction to the beauty of these Corvettes.

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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by C5Dobie
Yeah no kidding.....and SPORTS CARS during the time of C7 production had already gravitated more toward dual clutch tranny mid-engine design....not GT cars, not drag cars, SPORTS CARS - Cayman, BRZ, Mclaren, Ford GT, etc.

Missing my point - which is that considering the progress in sports car design & contemporary peers @ time of production the C7 to me is more "dated" - simply speaking in terms of basic fundamental layout - leaf spring, RWD, front engine, manual tranny, or torque converter auto - this is all "yesteryear" tech that have everything in common w/ C5/C6 vettes but was/is going in the wrong direction if the goal was to produce a world class SPORTS car. Dated in terms fundamentals, not dated in terms of LED lights, fancy sheetmetal, & soft touch interior - sorry.

I mean - the C8, IMO (and the opinion of many others) makes the C7 vette immediately stale & irrelevant, the C5/C5.5 are what they are & were very much cutting edge @ the time of production & are already considered "older cars" today - so I guess my point is more that the C8 seemingly advanced the age of the C7 dramatically in my eyes yet made the C5/C6 vettes actually more relevant b/c the biggest differences between the C7 & C8 generations are precisely what tie the C5-C7 together.
Viewed as a timeline, you're right. The C5 when it was introduced was not cutting-edge, but definitely had advances like the hydroformed chassis among other things. The C6 was an evolution, not really an advance, and the C7 is the last gasp of old-school performance before the C8. Does the C7 feel dated now? Not really, it's a helluva performance machine with lots of tech. But in terms of timeline of evolution, it was dated the moment it was introduced.

Of course so was the C5. Sports car design was so far beyond the Corvette even in the 80's, that it was always the GM miracle that such a "primitive" design could stick with the high dollar cars, for a price that regular folks could afford. In that sense, pretty much every Corvette after the C2 is "dated" but they are also deep in tradition. Yes my C5 feels dated, and I agree that a C7 does too, from one point of view. But that is also the reason I like it. The C8 is tempting as hell and I will be taking a very close look at one. But the C5 is staying in my garage.
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Yes, my 2004 Z06 feels pretty dated. Some of that is negative, but some is positive.

Cons:
Head lights are dim compared to a modern car.
Radio sucks.
No place for a thumb drive.
Forget trying to make a hands free phone call.
"Track ready" from 2004 is not even close as far as brakes and cooling goes.
Interior quality is pretty bad.
Lots of road noise in stock form

Pros:
It's light compared to a modern car.
It doesn't have a million displays in my face.
No direct injection.
Doesn't turn off cylinders.
So glad this car has a fixed roof.

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I bought my car used so don't know if anyone went on a date in it or not. I know I haven't.

Oh wait, that's not what you meant?

In my opinion, of course it is dated! The crappy headlights, HVAC controls, stereo, steering wheel with no buttons, the CC on the turn signal stalk, etc.Personally, I don't care that it is dated. That's one of the things I like about it. I think it is the last generation to retain that 60's muscle car feel but still have the handling, comfort, stopping, ride of a modern car (plus the great gas mileage).

That said, I still look at my car as a newer car. It is the second newest in my fleet after my '08 Duramax pickup. Compared to my '64 Pontiac 2+2, '63&1/2 Galaxie and '34 Ford coupe it is very modern!
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100% it's dated!

It's a 20+ year design!

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100% it's dated!

It's a 20+ year design!

SMH
If everything is old because of calendar date then why does the expression even exist?
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If everything is old because of calendar date then why does the expression even exist?
It goes beyond a calendar date alone, my point is that it's obvious that the car is dated.
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But a masterpiece/cclassic never grows old. It just gets better with age. Like Pink Floyd's WYWH.
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My shocks are dated they need a update!
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