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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 03:45 PM
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Any of you guys use it. I got a can from my Amsoil guy. He claims it works pretty well but of course he sells it.
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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 03:56 PM
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You will find a lot of people that love the stuff. Sorry, I won't touch my car with it. A dirty car needs to be washed, soap and water. My car it original paint and mostly scratch free after 21 years.
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Dry Wash ? There are many waterless wash products on the market. Dry wash contours up the notion of a powder like product similar to a dry hair wash product.

Ive been experimenting with waterless wash n wax products for the last year. My base understanding of car finishes is still in place. These waterless wash n dry products contain water, but the isea of waterless seems to only relate to the use of a hose and bucket. Ive used my wife's New black ruby pearl finish as my test base. After a year of using these products, I can say that her car finish is nicer then we took it off the showroom floor last year. Ive never washed her car in a year. Ive used one of these products every other day ( time required about ten minutes. ) Ive also done some research on the wax part of the product. Ive seen independent tests and found that Turtle wax Ice ( 9.99 ) is almost as good as a ceramic coating when it comes to hardness and gloss and optical clarity. Ive seen three independent test modules of a dozen ceramics and a few non ceramic coatings in their ability to shad water and retain the protection. in these studies, all the products were tested together.. while good ceramics can last from one to 3 years and still shed water, they are expensive and require a lot of prep. Nothing is better than a perfectly prepped finish and then ceramic coated finish. Of all the non ceramic coating out there, my research has found that turtle wax Ice is the closest thing to a ceramic coating. the fish has lasted 6 months were as other products of the same ilk last days or week before loosing their ability to shed water.

My wife's black car now with about 5,000 miles looks fantastic.. deep and wet looking. I also use a product from meguires a waterless wash n wax. This product has a highly lubricious suspension solution.. the Ice does Not have this lubricious property.. Ideally I use Meguires first ( about 10 minutes ) followed by the ice ( another ten minutes..



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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 04:33 PM
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People that don't like it have never used it. I use Mequiers Waterless wash and wax and my car looks as good as new. Only you can decide if you want to use it or not.


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Ive been a strong supporter of Zaino and its ability to keep my 20 year old C5 looking showroom New. I like Zaino.. But I have been experimenting with these New products and find them to be credible.
wifes car.

Nothing but Meguires wash n wax and turtle wax Ice

Meguires and Ice

Meguires and Ice.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
Ive been a strong supporter of Zaino and its ability to keep my 20 year old C5 looking showroom New. I like Zaino.. But I have been experimenting with these New products and find them to be credible.
wifes car.

Nothing but Meguires wash n wax and turtle wax Ice

Meguires and Ice

Meguires and Ice.
Bill, would you use it on a truly dirty car. Not a dusty one a dirty one. Otherwise it’s a detail spray. No?

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Only an idiot would use Waterless wash and wax on a car this dirty.
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I have never used the Amsoil product, but I do use other popular waterless/rinseless wash products. They work extremely well. Anyone who refuses to use such products because they think soap and water is safer is mistaken. Optimum Polymer Technologies has a couple videos on the topic. You get better lubrication and surface protection with good waterless wash products than you do with conventional soaps. Because science. You will actually be hard-pressed to find professional detailers and OCD car enthusiasts who don't have either Optimum's "No -Rinse" or Wolfgang's "Uber Rinseless" waterless wash concentrates in their detailing arsenal. Personally, I use both, and have tried others from Adam's, Meguiar's, and Pinnacle.
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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 04:53 PM
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Only an idiot would use Waterless wash and wax on a car this dirty.
Of course. So what does spray and wash do that different than detailing spray?
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Originally Posted by FYRARMS
I have never used the Amsoil product, but I do use other popular waterless/rinseless wash products. They work extremely well. Anyone who refuses to use such products because they think soap and water is safer is mistaken. Optimum Polymer Technologies has a couple videos on the topic. You get better lubrication and surface protection with good waterless wash products than you do with conventional soaps. Because science. You will actually be hard-pressed to find professional detailers and OCD car enthusiasts who don't have either Optimum's "No -Rinse" or Wolfgang's "Uber Rinseless" waterless wash concentrates in their detailing arsenal. Personally, I use both, and have tried others from Adam's, Meguiar's, and Pinnacle.
Curious on your opinions of the Adams product. I got a bottle of their ceramic waterless wash. I'm going to try it... won it in a raffle at my local cars and coffee. I have a lot of their other stuff and have been happy with it, but always open to alternatives similarly priced (not trying to spend hundreds on detailing products either).
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Of course. So what does spray and wash do that different than detailing spray?
It will remove road grime and film, bugs, dust and dirt. It is not for splashed or caked on mud. It is more for specialty cars that people actually drive on the road. I use waterless after every road trip when detailer isn't enough. I have washed my car with soap and water a couple of times in the last 30K miles when it had been driven on muddy roads. If you don't want to use it don't, but I like the stuff. Better than getting the car wet everytime it needs to be cleaned.

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I would have NO problem cleaning that dirty SUV with my waterless wash products. Obviously, just like when you use soap and water, you will pre-rinse the vehicle with water to knock off the heaviest dirt and road salt. After that, game on. My waterless wash solution will lift away dirt more safely and effectively than any soap you choose. Anyone who claims differently doesn't understand how these products work. Just because something has "suds" doesn't mean it cleans better or more safely. Especially during winter, when outdoor washing is not possible, these modern waterless wash products become answered prayers.

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Curious on your opinions of the Adams product. I got a bottle of their ceramic waterless wash. I'm going to try it... won it in a raffle at my local cars and coffee. I have a lot of their other stuff and have been happy with it, but always open to alternatives similarly priced (not trying to spend hundreds on detailing products either).
I haven't used their "ceramic" waterless wash. I just have the regular one (blue color). It works very well. However, nothing on the market compares to Wolfgang "Uber Rinseless" concentrate. It is under $20 for 16oz, but it dilutes like you wouldn't believe. I have mine diluted in a detail spray dilution, and that makes like 5+ gallons of detail spray. If you dilute it in a rinseless wash dilution, you just add 1oz to a bucket with 3 gallons of water in it. And not many other waterless wash products will add the gloss or polymer protection of the Wolfgang. I can't recommend it enough.

https://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-ub...less-wash.html
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If you pre-rinse it with water it is no longer a waterless wash.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
Dry Wash ? There are many waterless wash products on the market. Dry wash contours up the notion of a powder like product similar to a dry hair wash product.

Ive been experimenting with waterless wash n wax products for the last year. My base understanding of car finishes is still in place. These waterless wash n dry products contain water, but the isea of waterless seems to only relate to the use of a hose and bucket. Ive used my wife's New black ruby pearl finish as my test base. After a year of using these products, I can say that her car finish is nicer then we took it off the showroom floor last year. Ive never washed her car in a year. Ive used one of these products every other day ( time required about ten minutes. ) Ive also done some research on the wax part of the product. Ive seen independent tests and found that Turtle wax Ice ( 9.99 ) is almost as good as a ceramic coating when it comes to hardness and gloss and optical clarity. Ive seen three independent test modules of a dozen ceramics and a few non ceramic coatings in their ability to shad water and retain the protection. in these studies, all the products were tested together.. while good ceramics can last from one to 3 years and still shed water, they are expensive and require a lot of prep. Nothing is better than a perfectly prepped finish and then ceramic coated finish. Of all the non ceramic coating out there, my research has found that turtle wax Ice is the closest thing to a ceramic coating. the fish has lasted 6 months were as other products of the same ilk last days or week before loosing their ability to shed water.

My wife's black car now with about 5,000 miles looks fantastic.. deep and wet looking. I also use a product from meguires a waterless wash n wax. This product has a highly lubricious suspension solution.. the Ice does Not have this lubricious property.. Ideally I use Meguires first ( about 10 minutes ) followed by the ice ( another ten minutes..
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No worries. Simply use the spray bottle solution of waterless wash to pre-soak the car and lift the dirt. Most likely safer than blasting it with a high pressure hose anyway. Then clean the vehicle panel by panel with microfiber towels. There are many YouTube videos on this very topic.

No drain or heat in my garage, so my daily gets waterless/rinseless washes all the time in winter. Just waterless wash (spray bottle only) for light dirt and salt. Rinseless bucket wash (using the same waterless wash product) for heavy dirt.
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Sal Loves me.. LO)L. He probably has a similar product... I'm just offering my experience with these new products.. The Hook in these new products is the amount of lubricity and suspension.. If I had some of this stuff when I was in Prison I could of sold it for a lot of money LOL. Its very slippery..

This 9 dollar stuff is the same as Chadwick's.. same type of formulation.. one is 80 dollars the other is 9 dollars. AS far as using it on a filthy dirty silica ( sand ) dry car No.... I would hose it off blow dry any stuck on sand or contaminants.. The word waterless is irrelevant to me. I dont have a problem using a hose, or a leaf blower. The amount of lubricity goes a long way to keeping swirl marks from your clear coat.

The difference between this stuff and a detail cleaner is the amount of lubrication, lift and suspension.. its like detail cleaner on steroids. I'm not defending it or trying to ram it down anyone throat.. Ive been detailing cars for more than 60 years. I'm no pro ( and never claimed to be ) I know what makes me happy and the effort required to make me happy..but I know what I like. At my age, the ease of use, the cost and final result encourages me to support it and recommend it..

BTW Ive Zaino'd my wife's car at least three times in the last year and this stuff is used in between weekly .. If you dont let it get dirty it wont ever be dirty.. Neighbors, local cops, postal workers, trash men have all told me over the years they have never seen any of my cars dirty... ever..

I can go out in the morning and spray off my wifes car.. and in ten minutes removed any contaminants and add a layer of wax protection. its therapeutic for me. The ice is stackable... I also have the time to do this and look forward to it.. My C7 does not leave the garage unless it gets an Ice or spray n wash wipe down.
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I was thinking this through and kind of came up with this. You can wash your car with soap and water but at some point you ARE scrubbing the dirt into the paint. It's not like it's coming off the car by itself. You have to scrub it. I wouldn't feel comfortable taking heavy dirt off of my car with this "waterless wash product" but I just need something to touch up my car since it's a Sunday driver and sits in my garage for the most part. This Amsoil product does seem like it has a polishing effect also.
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If my car is only dusty from driving, I use a California Duster to lightly remove the majority of the dust and then follow up with Adam's Detail Spray and a mircofiber towel to get the rest of the stuff off the car. Works well for me and so far no scratches in the paint.

If the car is really dirty, then soap and water is my choice.
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If my car is only dusty from driving, I use a California Duster to lightly remove the majority of the dust and then follow up with Adam's Detail Spray and a mircofiber towel to get the rest of the stuff off the car. Works well for me and so far no scratches in the paint.

If the car is really dirty, then soap and water is my choice.
Yeah I've got one of those too, love it! Most of the lift dust accumulates on the horizontal surfaces. For the most part I just dust those. I dust off my car everyday. It only takes a minute and it keeps me in touch with my baby. I'll probably cover it when the weather gets bad around here. I'm going to drive it as much as possible though, throughout the winter.
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If my car is only dusty from driving, I use a California Duster to lightly remove the majority of the dust and then follow up with Adam's Detail Spray and a mircofiber towel to get the rest of the stuff off the car. Works well for me and so far no scratches in the paint.

If the car is really dirty, then soap and water is my choice.
Yep, that is a good simple plan that I use also....

I only wash the garage queens a few times a year, the daily's get washed in between the rain storms about once a month...
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