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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 03:29 PM
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So I need a commuter car but not a boring one. Wound up with a cherry Ford Focus STI - lightly modded with 78k on the clock. I have never owned a turbo car and what a hoot this thing is. Anyone gone up against one in a C5?



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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 03:34 PM
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Congrats on the car. I've never gone up against one, but I'd certainly like my chances if I did.
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On track in the dry a stock C5 is the faster car. I can’t think of time where I can say one of those cars out performed mine. Definitely pulled them on the straights though not greatly. Wet track or autocross is a different deal
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 04:07 PM
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Not with my Corvette but I did have one try me at a light in my ZL1 Camaro with the biggest turbo stickers I have ever seen. Was kinda funny, great confidence booster.
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To get serious, you need the Focus RS, sadly no longer available. Very similar numbers to a C5 - 350 bhp, 350 lb ft torque, 3400 lbs weight. 0-60 around 4.6/4.7 secs. Since it is AWD, complete with vectoring diff., it is apparently very quick and very sure footed in the wet also.
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Originally Posted by jackthelad
To get serious, you need the Focus RS, sadly no longer available. Very similar numbers to a C5 - 350 bhp, 350 lb ft torque, 3400 lbs weight. 0-60 around 4.6/4.7 secs. Since it is AWD, complete with vectoring diff., it is apparently very quick and very sure footed in the wet also.
Too bad it is no longer available - sounds like a real fun car.
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 11:25 PM
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That’s a Focus ST. STI is a Subaru.
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Originally Posted by schaumi
That’s a Focus ST. STI is a Subaru.
I didn't notice myself. I was talking about the RS with my earlier post. When he said STI I assumed he got confused and meant RS
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How often if ever is someone on a road course
In real life...lots of these turbo cars awd will smoke the average sports car light to light.
Yeah Id rather be driving a vette but dont discount some of these rice rockets. Tin cans that move out


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Originally Posted by jackthelad
To get serious, you need the Focus RS, sadly no longer available. Very similar numbers to a C5 - 350 bhp, 350 lb ft torque, 3400 lbs weight. 0-60 around 4.6/4.7 secs. Since it is AWD, complete with vectoring diff., it is apparently very quick and very sure footed in the wet also.
incredibly I saw an white RS on the road yesterday! Very subdued - just an RS logo stamped into the side of the rear spoiler. Mine is Tangerine with these red ST emblems that just fires the kids up
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When these came out Ford hosted an event to let you take one out on an Auto-X track. They're a blast to drive as despite being a FWD car they rotate well. I ran the entire course in second gear and it had plenty of torque to spare. A co-worker bought one and cranked the boost and it's holding up well.

I miss the turbo-4 world.
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Haha funny you mentioned about this car,
a friend of mine has a Gray color nicely fixed up, we drive on the canyons Sunday’s.

i have driven the car.
we have played on the freeway,
C5 is much faster on the freeway.

On the canyons he is definitely having hard time keeping up as well, granted I have 2003 ZO6 suspension ( which is still terrible soft ) and 2013 grand sport sway bars.

if my corvette had proper coil over suspension
I would probably loose him on the first switch backs.

is the focus fun? HELL YES . It’s a go cart, on the streets it’s definitely more fun than the c5.

I really like that little car.

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Originally Posted by cv67
How often if ever is someone on a road course
In real life...lots of these turbo cars awd will smoke the average sports car light to light.
Yeah Id rather be driving a vette but dont discount some of these rice rockets. Tin cans that move out
Having owned a Subie Turbo AWD for years, the only issue is that to really make it get away from a light, you have to rev it way up and dump the clutch - not enough power to spin 4 wide tires, so basically you are killing the clutch. Or the flywheel, and in the earlier cars, not unknown to bust a drive axle. Once rolling however, they are very quick, and a lot of fun on ordinary roads. And infinitely modifiable - bigger turbo and intercooler, plus a reprogram adds an easy 100hp.
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Originally Posted by jackthelad
Having owned a Subie Turbo AWD for years, the only issue is that to really make it get away from a light, you have to rev it way up and dump the clutch - not enough power to spin 4 wide tires, so basically you are killing the clutch. Or the flywheel, and in the earlier cars, not unknown to bust a drive axle. Once rolling however, they are very quick, and a lot of fun on ordinary roads. And infinitely modifiable - bigger turbo and intercooler, plus a reprogram adds an easy 100hp.
I added about 70 whp on my STi with just a turbo back exhaust and a dyno tune on a heartbreaker dyno.

It would have eaten my C5 for lunch. As more time passes, I miss it more and more. It’s value is increasing unlike the C5.
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Originally Posted by MikeyMcFly
I added about 70 whp on my STi with just a turbo back exhaust and a dyno tune on a heartbreaker dyno.

It would have eaten my C5 for lunch. As more time passes, I miss it more and more. It’s value is increasing unlike the C5.
would you sale your C5 to me for 7.000?
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Originally Posted by MikeyMcFly
I added about 70 whp on my STi with just a turbo back exhaust and a dyno tune on a heartbreaker dyno.

It would have eaten my C5 for lunch. As more time passes, I miss it more and more. It’s value is increasing unlike the C5.
Mine is still "in the family" and modded with turbo/intercooler upgrades, and various other stuff. Probably somewhere round 350-375 bhp.

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Originally Posted by jackthelad
Mine is still "in the family" and modded with turbo/intercooler upgrades, and various other stuff. Probably somewhere round 350-375 bhp.
Wow - that's a lot from the base 250! What I like about this car is that its not been messed with too much - and I want to take the same approach as with my FRC - tastefully mod it and as much as possible keep it looking stock. Will take delivery on Friday
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