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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 04:23 PM
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I'm considering purchasing these headers & mid pipe, for my '01 vert. Does anyone have these on their car and can offer some insight? I know I need to get a tune after they would be installed. Seller is ProTuning Labs.




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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 08:48 PM
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I don’t have experience with cheap headers on a corvette, but a friend put some on his 350z and it was such a nightmare he immediately ordered nice ones after.

even my decent headers for the corvette (xs-power) were a bit of a headache compared to the ease of say Kooks or someone.

If it were me, I would save up a little more
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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 09:16 PM
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My advice - go for a known manufacturer. Fit, quality and performance all come to mind when you install a set of headers and the money would be wisely spent when all of those things result in a successful mod.
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Old Jun 22, 2022 | 09:54 AM
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Speed Engineering is the only cheap set of headers I’d consider personally
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Old Jun 22, 2022 | 10:12 AM
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Speed Engineering is the only cheap set of headers I’d consider personally
This. I have Speed Engineering and they fit really well for the price. The fact that companies still charge $1K plus for headers for a 25 year old car is asinine.
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Old Jun 22, 2022 | 10:23 AM
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I agree that Speed engineering is the only cheap header option worth considering. Make sure that going with a catless system is legal in your area.
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Maybe a nice set of used headers for under 200.
You will regret a new set of headers for 200.
One more thing. I hope you are buying headers to
improve performance. A 180 dollar set of headers is not
going to have any R&D. They will be a cheap Chinese
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Good luck
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Old Jun 25, 2022 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by road pilot
Maybe a nice set of used headers for under 200.
You will regret a new set of headers for 200.
One more thing. I hope you are buying headers to
improve performance. A 180 dollar set of headers is not
going to have any R&D. They will be a cheap Chinese
product.
Good luck
Truer words were never spoken!!! After trying to get these to fit, the OP will know every cuss word the human race has ever invented!! OP-Think about it-There's no way these are stainless steel. If by some chance they are, they'll be such a cheap grade they'll rust, anyway. If a deal seems to good to be true, it is........
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Get a good set of headers, air intake, and a good tune. I have LG headers , cats, xPipe, VR intake , and a tune. Made 340 wheel horsepower through an A4 transmission. You won’t be disappointed. Had my car like this since 2007, no problems with anything.
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The description says T-304 stainless, 1 7/8” , 3”, and shows air pipe hookup, and ss mesh anti vibration section. No cats. Also shows out of stock…

There’s a bunch of satisfied forum members that have Speed Engineering, and they are in stock for less than $600 (no air plumbing).

Not everyone can afford $2000+ for headers. The one you posted look ok, but for a few hundred more SE gives you a trusted option.




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Old Jun 25, 2022 | 11:26 PM
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I used OBX on my 78 and was satisfied. No experience with other versions. they are more of a middle price point I guess. http://www.obxracingsports.com/products.php?pk=1703
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Originally Posted by vette4fl
The description says T-304 stainless, 1 7/8” , 3”, and shows air pipe hookup, and ss mesh anti vibration section. No cats. Also shows out of stock…

There’s a bunch of satisfied forum members that have Speed Engineering, and they are in stock for less than $600 (no air plumbing).

Not everyone can afford $2000+ for headers. The one you posted look ok, but for a few hundred more SE gives you a trusted option.

I'm a satisfied Speed Engineering customer. Nobody should pay $1000 for headers for a 20 year old car when the R&D was paid for over a decade ago. The people saying you get what you paid for on the name brand headers have no idea what they're talking about.
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Originally Posted by EVL JAKE
I'm a satisfied Speed Engineering customer. Nobody should pay $1000 for headers for a 20 year old car when the R&D was paid for over a decade ago. The people saying you get what you paid for on the name brand headers have no idea what they're talking about.
Wrong. You get better grade stainless and headers fabricated to fixtures/jigs designed (through R&D) to account for assembly variation in vehicles. While the "R&D may have been done 20 years ago", the fixtures are still being used.

You couldn't pay me to try and install and deal with a sub $500 header set.

These fit amazing well also:
TPS Motorsport 1 7/8" (I personally run) NOT TEXAS SPEED junk.
Hinson 1 7/8" (My friends run)
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Originally Posted by smitty2919
Wrong. You get better grade stainless and headers fabricated to fixtures/jigs designed (through R&D) to account for assembly variation in vehicles. While the "R&D may have been done 20 years ago", the fixtures are still being used.

You couldn't pay me to try and install and deal with a sub $500 header set.

These fit amazing well also:
TPS Motorsport 1 7/8" (I personally run) NOT TEXAS SPEED junk.
Hinson 1 7/8" (My friends run)
Do you have any idea how manufacturing works? The fixtures are still being paid for? Guess what, the steel these companies are buying are from china too. Congrats on over paying, I installed my SE headers on my own car with out a single issue, upgraded the clamps and still came in at less than half of what the other guys charge that must still be paying for their fixtures... Bet your car doesn't make any more power with them either.
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Too bad no one makes our headers out of plain steel. Slap on some ceramic coat and they’re good. Did that for decades, even on racers that put out insane heat.

$2500 for bling headers is fine if that’s pocket change, but a poor value otherwise. Any stainless headers that fit will last our lifetimes. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate mac daddy cool looking parts, but a lot of us need to stretch our dollars.
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Just word of advice a friend installed headers on his C5, from a Muffler shop.

That was his first mistake, after the install drove it home, and the next morning, wouldn't start, SO he had it towed to performance shop, and I don't know what they charged, I bet lot $$$$.
What the muffler shop did according to owner, they first didn't ground the car properly cause they had to reroute wire harness, which they laid it on the headers, and they all burnt up.
So I hope you get a good shop that knows Corvettes.
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Originally Posted by smitty2919
Wrong. You get better grade stainless and headers fabricated to fixtures/jigs designed (through R&D) to account for assembly variation in vehicles. While the "R&D may have been done 20 years ago", the fixtures are still being used.

You couldn't pay me to try and install and deal with a sub $500 header set.

These fit amazing well also:
TPS Motorsport 1 7/8" (I personally run) NOT TEXAS SPEED junk.
Hinson 1 7/8" (My friends run)

I’ve owned my C5 less than a month and have been buying up some parts. Texas Speed Headers were on the list for long tubes. The TPS with X pipe is roughly the same price and like most I want to get the best bang for the $$$.
Is there anything specific that you can elaborate on why you don’t like the Texas Speed or Prefer the TPS?
Is fit the only reason? Honestly that’s a pretty big deal. I’ve not done long tubes on a Vette but have on 4v mustangs and it’s tight.




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I’ve owned my C5 less than a month and have been buying up some parts. Texas Speed Headers were on the list for long tubes. The TPS with X pipe is roughly the same price and like most I want to get the best bang for the $$$.
Is there anything specific that you can elaborate on why you don’t like the Texas Speed or Prefer the TPS?
Is fit the only reason? Honestly that’s a pretty big deal. I’ve not done long tubes on a Vette but have on 4v mustangs and it’s tight.
I have texas speed headers, I’d say it’s more quality control than specifically fitment. Fitment varies too much between sets and occasionally some won’t fit at all from what I’ve read. They also hang a bit lower than other brands.

I’m happy with mine but if I were doing it over I’d go with speed engineering or save up for kooks if I wanted the best. A fair amount of people now have reported good fitment and performance with speed engineering.
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Originally Posted by smitty2919
Wrong. You get better grade stainless and headers fabricated to fixtures/jigs designed (through R&D) to account for assembly variation in vehicles. While the "R&D may have been done 20 years ago", the fixtures are still being used.

You couldn't pay me to try and install and deal with a sub $500 header set.

These fit amazing well also:
TPS Motorsport 1 7/8" (I personally run) NOT TEXAS SPEED junk.
Hinson 1 7/8" (My friends run)
Running the TPS Motorsports setup, very satisfied. Fit was easy. I did a writeup on the forums here
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Originally Posted by EVL JAKE
Do you have any idea how manufacturing works? The fixtures are still being paid for? Guess what, the steel these companies are buying are from china too. Congrats on over paying, I installed my SE headers on my own car with out a single issue, upgraded the clamps and still came in at less than half of what the other guys charge that must still be paying for their fixtures... Bet your car doesn't make any more power with them either.
Where did I say the "fixtures are still being paid for"? Right, I didn't.

If you re-read my comment I said/meant is that headers being made TODAY are using jigs that were developed through R&D period. The more R&D done the more robust and accurate fixture to ensure better fitment/quality for years to come when mass producing/fabricating components.

I also never said I own or buy Kooks/ARH/Stainless Works. I run TPS. I took a gamble on fitment (after researching a lot) and they ended up being one of the best fitting headers for the price. I refuse to pay sub $500 for headers due to some of the designs and higher risk of fitment issues. If Texas Speed got better, good for them. Last set I saw on a car years ago was garbage and hug way too low.

You DO know you can get quality raw material from places other than US right? Do YOU know how manufacturing works? lol Sounds like you would be surprised where the raw material comes from to produce 80% of the automotive steel coil springs on vehicles being sold today...
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