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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 04:17 AM
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Thanks for the information..
So reading you can only use a 3:5” speaker in the door.
I like rock music and like a fair amount of bass coming from my speakers any suggestions on a good speaker for the doors ?

Not sure on changing the rear speakers…..

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I used the Metra door adaptors that allow you to use 6.5" speakers. Amazon:

Amazon.com: Metra 82-3013 Speaker Adapters for 1997-2004 Chevrolet Corvette : Automotive Amazon.com: Metra 82-3013 Speaker Adapters for 1997-2004 Chevrolet Corvette : Automotive

I used JBL speakers all the way around. Front and back: On sale now on Amazon for a ridiculous price.

Amazon.com: JBL GTO629 Premium 6.5-Inch Co-Axial Speaker - Set of 2 : Electronics Amazon.com: JBL GTO629 Premium 6.5-Inch Co-Axial Speaker - Set of 2 : Electronics

Changing the rear speakers will be the easiest part you will do. The top screw would be a bit challenging if you do not remove the plastic trim and just go through the cover.
I just popped off the mesh covers and once I was able to remove the top screw, I installed the replacement speaker with just 3 screws and re- installed the mesh.

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I used the Metra door adaptors that allow you to use 6.5" speakers. Amazon:

Amazon.com: Metra 82-3013 Speaker Adapters for 1997-2004 Chevrolet Corvette : Automotive

I used JBL speakers all the way around. Front and back: On sale now on Amazon for a ridiculous price.

Amazon.com: JBL GTO629 Premium 6.5-Inch Co-Axial Speaker - Set of 2 : Electronics

Changing the rear speakers will be the easiest part you will do. The top screw would be a bit challenging if you do not remove the plastic trim and just go through the cover.
I just popped off the mesh covers and once I was able to remove the top screw, I installed the replacement speaker with just 3 screws and re- installed the mesh.
Thanks for the information and the links. Those JBL speakers are going cheap.

So with changing the door speakers to jbl I understand you put the adapter on for new speakers does the Bose speaker grille stay on the door trim ?

same with the rear ?
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Thanks for the information and the links. Those JBL speakers are going cheap.

So with changing the door speakers to jbl I understand you put the adapter on for new speakers does the Bose speaker grille stay on the door trim ?

same with the rear ?
you keep the door speaker grill and the rear grill.
Frankly you really don't even need the rear speakers, they really don't do much.
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 09:16 AM
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Thanks for the information..
So reading you can only use a 3:5” speaker in the door.
I like rock music and like a fair amount of bass coming from my speakers any suggestions on a good speaker for the doors ?

Not sure on changing the rear speakers…..

Cheers
yes -- get a really good set of 3.5" for highs.. I use audio frog 3.5"s but they are expensive, but crystal clear and handle a ton of power for their size:
Audiofrog GS25 GS Series 2-1/2" midrange car speakers at Crutchfield

Get a set of 6.5" woofers (not SUB woofers) in the door for mids / high range base. I use Morel 6.5" -- again they're expensive, but the sound quality is insane:
Morel Elate Carbon MW6 Elate Carbon Series 6-1/2" woofers at Crutchfield
(morel also makes a different set that's cheaper and almost as good as the carbons -- Morel Hybrid MW6 MKII Hybrid Series 6-1/2" woofers at Crutchfield)

The 3.5" and 6.5" fit perfectly in the stock opening in the door, with a metra adapter
Metra 82-3013 Corvette Speaker Mounting Brackets Install 6-1/2" or 6-3/4" speakers in 1997-2004 Chevrolet Corvette vehicles at Crutchfield

For the rears (I have a convertible) I use Hertz. I think they're 5.25s, but frankly you really don't need them, they don't do much other than some spatial imaging. I barely notice the sound with or without them.

with a setup like this -- not necessarily the audio frogs/morels, but getting a really decent set of 3.5"'s and 6.5", you'll get really good, full lows and crystal clear highs.
To really fill out the bass, most people throw a 10 or 12" subwoffer in the center cargo area -- there are tons of enclosures out there you can buy that fit in the stock opening.
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I am quite surprised at the posters that say the rears don't matter.
Going to a 5 channel amp with a dedicated sub was not that much more than a 3 channel amp.
The 2 rear speakers are less than a $100 a pair for 6.5" JBLs.
Then they will make a world of difference if you push your fader on the head unit a step or two back towards the rears.
If you don't want to do that, you can balance the 4 channels on the amplifier.
I hear my sound loud and clear from all 4 channels.
MHO anyway.
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I am quite surprised at the posters that say the rears don't matter.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 09:09 AM
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I am quite surprised at the posters that say the rears don't matter.
Because they don't. But to each their own, if you like them then use them.
For my purposes, it's tough to find high quality speakers with range that complements the front. I've tried over a dozen sets, and the best I've been able to find overemphasize the mid frequencies, and while add some imaging, muddies the tones. I hardly notice them when they're gone. In the convertible at least, they're also horribly located, and give terribly listening angles.

I guess maybe adding some tweeters in that spot for imaging may be better, but with the options out there combined with the terrible placement, they really do ****.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 05:07 AM
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Just a few questions on the installation..

I will have a professional audio guy doing mine but I’ll be helping. I’m in Australia so a few things are obviously different in some of our cars compared to a Corvette.

We will be installing a Pioneer DMH-Z5350BT
I’ve picked up a few things watching some videos.
With the wiring PINK is the ignition

Accessary wires are ORANGE

Reverse wire is LIGHT GREEN.

A few questions I have are.

We are installing a new double din Pioneer unit and not using any existing part of the Bose system can we wire it without using the Axxcess Interface harness ?

If we are installing new door speakers can we use the wiring already run to the Bose door speakers ?

What is the best location in the car to get a good earth ?

With the reverse camera to work when the car is in reverse are we branching into the light green reverse wire I think there is good access behind the rear number plate ?

Thanks
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 06:47 AM
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Just a few questions on the installation..

I will have a professional audio guy doing mine but I’ll be helping. I’m in Australia so a few things are obviously different in some of our cars compared to a Corvette.

We will be installing a Pioneer DMH-Z5350BT
I’ve picked up a few things watching some videos.
With the wiring PINK is the ignition

Accessary wires are ORANGE

Reverse wire is LIGHT GREEN.

A few questions I have are.

We are installing a new double din Pioneer unit and not using any existing part of the Bose system can we wire it without using the Axxcess Interface harness ?

If we are installing new door speakers can we use the wiring already run to the Bose door speakers ?

What is the best location in the car to get a good earth ?

With the reverse camera to work when the car is in reverse are we branching into the light green reverse wire I think there is good access behind the rear number plate ?

Thanks
You will have to use the Axxess unit for power functionality. I tried without it, the unit did not power up. Since you are using new everything, you can just use the main Axxess module and not use the Bose sub module. It's the one with the 4 Pots.
You can use the existing wiring if you are not using the RCAs and an external amp. Otherwise, run new wires. My system sounded horrible with just swapping the speakers, so I upgraded to new wires, RCAs from the head unit to the amp and installed a 12" sub in the hatch.
Always go to the frame for best ground. Shortest distance possible to eliminate interference.
I hooked up the backup camera trigger wire to the + of the backup lights. The power itself to the camera, I hooked up to the blue accessory wire on the head unit and of course, the ground.
You can get speaker harness adaptors for the rears if you are using the factory wires. I have not seen adaptors for the door harnesses. They are different because they carry power as well.
Get a Pioneer brake bypass connector so you can have menu functionality while the car is in motion.
Good luck!!

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As has been mentioned- to each their own, but I have to completely disagree with the "rear speakers don't do anything" comments. My Alpine ilx allows you to fiddle around with a lot of settings- including cutting out the rear speakers. I MUCH prefer the sound with the rear speakers included vs having them cut off. If you set your cut-offs right (a feature with the Alpine I really like) you can stage things really well using all the channels. Just my $0.02, but I just can't imagine deleting the rears from the system.

Funny thing is, my other ride (Jeep Wrangler) has the same comment all over its forum as well "the rear speakers (in this case the soundbar) don't really do anything." Can't say I agree with those comments either.
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As has been mentioned- to each their own, but I have to completely disagree with the "rear speakers don't do anything" comments. My Alpine ilx allows you to fiddle around with a lot of settings- including cutting out the rear speakers. I MUCH prefer the sound with the rear speakers included vs having them cut off. If you set your cut-offs right (a feature with the Alpine I really like) you can stage things really well using all the channels. Just my $0.02, but I just can't imagine deleting the rears from the system.

Funny thing is, my other ride (Jeep Wrangler) has the same comment all over its forum as well "the rear speakers (in this case the soundbar) don't really do anything." Can't say I agree with those comments either.
Totally your call. I have the ILX, and I've played around with the cut offs, etc. It really , heavily depends on the speakers you have in front. If the fronts are high end, give you full range, and are properly matched to the speakers, then the rears won't do much.. especially in a convertible, with their placement.
Also, the software cutoff in the ILX (and most head units) are really not optimal. I personally use a hardware cutoff that's specifically matched to the speakers' range, and it makes a HUGE difference.
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You will have to use the Axxess unit for power functionality. I tried without it, the unit did not power up. Since you are using new everything, you can just use the main Axxess module and not use the Bose sub module. It's the one with the 4 Pots.
You can use the existing wiring if you are not using the RCAs and an external amp. Otherwise, run new wires. My system sounded horrible with just swapping the speakers, so I upgraded to new wires, RCAs from the head unit to the amp and installed a 12" sub in the hatch.
Always go to the frame for best ground. Shortest distance possible to eliminate interference.
I hooked up the backup camera trigger wire to the + of the backup lights. The power itself to the camera, I hooked up to the blue accessory wire on the head unit and of course, the ground.
You can get speaker harness adaptors for the rears if you are using the factory wires. I have not seen adaptors for the door harnesses. They are different because they carry power as well.
Get a Pioneer brake bypass connector so you can have menu functionality while the car is in motion.
Good luck!!

Thanks for your help.

Do you have a link for the Axxess harness I’ll need to power my need unit if I buy it from Amazon ?
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Originally Posted by corvettezman
You will have to use the Axxess unit for power functionality. I tried without it, the unit did not power up. Since you are using new everything, you can just use the main Axxess module and not use the Bose sub module. It's the one with the 4 Pots.
You can use the existing wiring if you are not using the RCAs and an external amp. Otherwise, run new wires. My system sounded horrible with just swapping the speakers, so I upgraded to new wires, RCAs from the head unit to the amp and installed a 12" sub in the hatch.
Always go to the frame for best ground. Shortest distance possible to eliminate interference.
I hooked up the backup camera trigger wire to the + of the backup lights. The power itself to the camera, I hooked up to the blue accessory wire on the head unit and of course, the ground.
You can get speaker harness adaptors for the rears if you are using the factory wires. I have not seen adaptors for the door harnesses. They are different because they carry power as well.
Get a Pioneer brake bypass connector so you can have menu functionality while the car is in motion.
Good luck!!
so I think this is all I need

the Axxess X-SVI-2004 wiring interface $79.99


https://www.crutchfield.com/p_120SVI...Interface.html


Does anyone know if there are any other places selling these ? Just looking for other options for Postage to Australia..

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so I think this is all I need

the Axxess X-SVI-2004 wiring interface $79.99


https://www.crutchfield.com/p_120SVI...Interface.html






Does anyone know if there are any other places selling these ? Just looking for other options for Postage to Australia..

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Amazon.
You will also need the Metra door adaptors to fit in the 6.5" speakers
Amazon.com: Metra 82-3013 Speaker Adapters for 1997-2004 Chevrolet Corvette : Automotive Amazon.com: Metra 82-3013 Speaker Adapters for 1997-2004 Chevrolet Corvette : Automotive

Amazon.com: Axxess XSVI-2004 Amplifier Interface Harness for 1997-2004 Chevrolet Vehicles with Factory Amplified System : Everything Else Amazon.com: Axxess XSVI-2004 Amplifier Interface Harness for 1997-2004 Chevrolet Vehicles with Factory Amplified System : Everything Else

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I read that I might need a Pioneer brake bypass connector
what is this for ?
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I read that I might need a Pioneer brake bypass connector
what is this for ?
It fakes the radio into thinking the hand brake is on while the car is in motion, so it allows you to access some usually grayed out menu functions while the car is in motion that way you don't have to stop and pull the brake to access them.
It's a three wire connection on a Pioneer.
It also will allow you to watch video if you have a passenger in the car while the car is in motion. I have not tried it though.
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It fakes the radio into thinking the hand brake is on while the car is in motion, so it allows you to access some usually grayed out menu functions while the car is in motion that way you don't have to stop and pull the brake to access them.
It's a three wire connection on a Pioneer.
It also will allow you to watch video if you have a passenger in the car while the car is in motion. I have not tried it though.
Pulse Bypass for all Pioneer AVH AVH-P AVH-X BT Parking Brake Video Override | eBay
don't underestimate this -- get it , it's cheap, and easy to install (literally just three wires, and the device is about the size of a quarter). You can get them on ebay as corvettezman said, or amaozn has tons of them.
pioneer, alpine, all of them, disable a ton of functions if it thinks the car is in motion. It's more than just watching videos -- you won't be able to type in addresses into the GPS or access settings among other things.
Also, when you get one, *make sure* it lists your model number as supported. Google it. There are a bunch of head units that just connect to your parking break, and look for a ground, and if it's grounded, the head unit assumes the parking break is on and that youre not in motion. Those are easier to defeat. Others look for a momentary pulse from the parking break. Those require more (not much). The point is that one defeat device designed for one head unit may not work for another.
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I’ve read a few comments were people say the wiring diagram for the Axxess harness is wrong on a few wires?

Is this correct?

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I’ve read a few comments were people say the wiring diagram for the Axxess harness is wrong on a few wires?

Is this correct?

Thanks Pete
I did not have any issues. So not sure what that's about.
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you keep the door speaker grill and the rear grill.
Frankly you really don't even need the rear speakers, they really don't do much.
I have to agree on this one.....both ways.
When you go to a concert, where are the speakers? Of course, they are in front of you. I've never been to a concert (and I've been to a LOT of concerts) and have never seen rear speakers.
That being said, I only run front speakers in my 02. Two sets of Infinity Perfects 6.1s. Tweeters are angled for best sound quality. Frickin' sounds AWESOME!
But, I can seen the reason for having rear speakers too. Once there was dedicated 5.1 systems but I don't think it ever caught on much. I do run rear speakers in my 99s but I have the fader adjusted towards the front. In both 99s I just use the head unit's amplifier to power the rear speakers. I have two 12" subwoofers in my black 99 so I need all the mids and highs I can get.




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