Look I know there are mostly good people here. Some have reached out in PM telling me about some of those with issues here.

Look I am easy to get along with and have no issue with others opinions but I expect to be able to voice my own opinions and not have to defend myself.

I have shared my regiment with others often but normally I am not defending myself over some criticism of a wax I never named or said anything specific about.

I did say I did not like ICE as it beaded but never left the shine I got with other products.

Right now here is what I use

#1 3m machine and micro polish along with the Meguires professional line of polished if condition warrants.

#2 Chemical Guys Black Light glaze

#3 Chemical Guys Jet Seal

#4 Pete’s Black Pearl and I am experimenting with a black wax from Chemical Guys

#5 I use several Griot Polishers as it does a better job than by hand.

#6 I also keep a range of polisher pads for different conditions to treat.

I am always open to new things and change up from time to time.

Now this is not for everyone but most here may benefit by the polishes as every wax need a good base.

I focus on treating the paint or clear to correct it and then seal it with the Jet Seal.

The wax just finished it off

Let me make this clear It is not for everyone nor is this the only thing that works.

I just avoid the stuff that is high silicone that just costs the surface not fixed it.

 

Atta-boy! See how easy that was?

Thank you for the tips. Truly. I too like Maguires,Griots and Chemical Guys products. Which I prefer over the other, hard to tell really. I tend to use a blend of them. I'm not "going for gold" when it comes to detailing my toys but I do like them to look perty when I take them out. My detailing rituals vary based on how much free time I have. Which typically isn't much.

if it's fast and it works without burning 2 or 4 hours of driving time that's the stuff for me.

 

 

You lost me at "Chemical Guys". I was under the impression you were using a durable product and not some over-marketed retail shelf items. CG is well-known in the detailing community to be sub-par, offering poorly-performing products. The Hybrid Solutions line is a much, much better option for paint protection.

I have a few tubs of Chemical Guys XXX Carnauba, a full bottle of White Light, and a couple other CG waxes that I will gladly give away to anyone here on the forum. If anyone here just wants a good carnauba-based wax with superior durability, hydrophobics, and depth, get some Collinite 915 or 845. You will thank me later.

 

Look if one ask and stops accusing you will get better details.

I give as good as I get.

Even Chemical and Meguires have their good and bad.

I just see so many things out there claim to be this or that and are not what they claims. It just masks the paint like makeup on bad skin.

I used to think wax like Rain Dance years ago was child till I was taught different.

But as I said above If you are not interested skip the post . If you want info just ask.

I am not here to argue.

 

Now see we have an example here of someone just trying to stir up ****.

As stated what I use is not for everyone and when discussing wax it is as bad as Politics, religion and oil.

It is what I use , it may not be Not you but that is fine with me,

I look for quality finish not just water beading. If you want more beading that is fine with me. Just not what I want.

See I can deal with a different opinion but you appear to have issues if someone just has a different View.

 

As the thread starter what I will say is that simply posting the above with no context, elaboration or recommendations may be the cause of the issue. I have no doubt you are well intentioned but it's hard to determine that with such a brief reply. Sometimes brevity ISN'T the soul of wit.

 

Thank you Johnny for giving me a chance unlike others.

I give as good as I get.

I just don’t buy into all this graphite, Graphene, ceramic what ever out there accept the real ceramic coatings that don’t come in a spray bottle.

Even then They are not for everyone.

In a year or two it will be come other catch word on every bottle at Walmart and it will be more of the same with a lot of silicone.

Just look back and about every 5 years it is done be gimmick that coats paint not repair or correct.

I was using some Adams to but I lost my discount on it. They had some thing good done not do.

One secret to a good real finish is using the right products in combination to correct the paint.

 

I have NO issue with anyone who has a "different view". Seriously, I couldn't care less what someone uses on their paint. What I do have an issue with is when someone insinuates that the product being discussed is a gimmick without having any other information posted to back such a claim. It was also very ironic, as Chemical Guys is the king of gimmicks, with a good marketing team to push them. I do, however, like their glazes and their air fresheners. That's about it. Glad they are working well for your needs.

 

It may work fit you but these names like Graphite etc are just gimmicks even from Chemicsl guys.

You are happy coating a finish I am in to correcting. If that is what you want fine.

As for flipping out because I don’t believe in your wax get over it.

You can bad mouth Chemical Guy all you like as I know what it died got me and your opinion is just that your opinion and you have a right to it.

Just respect my opinion even if it differer from yours. You don’t have to agree nor should you.

Just you getting unglued because I don’t believe in it. Deal with it.

Like I said they all have good and bad and we all have different expectations.

But you really need to let others have say. This is not all about just you or me,

Any way I am done here at least for tonight. Got other things to go.

 

"Coating a finish"? What does that mean? I think you may be confused. I actually detail vehicles as a side-gig business, so let me help you out. That is why we are here!

Correction: The compounding and polishing performed to remove paint defects, and to get the paint as level as possible. The actual mechanical abrasion.
Protection: What you use to protect the paint after correction. Waxes, sealants, or coatings.

Here is a 50/50 door shot of the trashed C5 mentioned previously. I am correcting the paint. This was after the first compounding step. If I remember correctly, I used Meg's M100 on microfiber cutting disks. I finish polished in the second step with 3D One polish on Lake Country CCS foam pads.



Pulled it out in daylight to look for any defects I may have not noticed under the shop lights. Paint is corrected with no protection on it yet. Just wiped down with CarPro Eraser panel prep.



So, you betcha! I am all about paint correction...and protection.

 

Black Stallion all 🐢’d out…

 

Looks awesome!

 

Brylcream is inexpensive and leaves a brilliant long lasting shine. Much better than Windex.

 

There are lots of quality car care products out there...Adams, Griots, Chemical Guys etc

 

FYRARMS - Very Nice Work on that C5 !!!!

I for one appreciate the info that I find on CF about various compounds / cleaners / protective finishes. I DO NOT take anything I read here as gospel, but I do respect people's opinions, and I have seen a lot of very good info posted, and typically - I'll go and try stuff that a number of people recommend / have good luck with. When it comes right down to it - how a product works for you is what really matters. I absolutely agree with the people that say there is a LOT of Snake Oil out there. But - there are also some companies that are out there doing development work, and bringing improved products to the market.

For MANY years - I had a pretty low opinion of the Turtle Wax product line. A few years ago - I saw some very positive reviews on here (and a few other sites - e.g. Autogeek) about their Seal & Shine, so I bought a bottle and tried it on a Daily Driver. I thought that it worked pretty well. It wasn't as durable as some of the other stuff I was using, but I could do a vehicle in 15 minutes - not the two hours that the Meguiars Synthetic Sealant I was using took to apply. To this day - it has a place on my garage shelf, but it is not the only tool in the toolbox - it's one of a number of products that I'll use depending on what I'm looking to accomplish.

So - to close - I'll say THANK YOU to those who post info about what works for them, and what doesn't. .

 

Thanks for the heads up. I’m going to try and pick up some turtle wax max wax and give it a try.

 

The black C5 looks liquid it is so glossy.

 

A little over a year ago, Turtle Wax reformulated a few popular products. The "Seal & Shine" now has more durability, UV protection, and is less streaky. However, the item nobody is talking about is the cheapest in their lineup. They improved the one that started it all---the "ICE Spray Wax". It was good before, but now it is really good. More durability, more gloss, better hydrophobics, and a much better scent. Honestly, it is my favorite product from them. The carnauba content is enough that it adds some depth to metallic colors, as if you applied a paste wax. It just is much more durable. I have a couple local guys with carnauba-covered weekend show cars that I detail, and I use the new ICE Spray Wax as a maintenance topper after washes. It works incredibly well.

 

Just as you posted. Correction is fixing the flaws with various levels of polish and remove it the flaws.

much of the stuff that is for mass market does not correct the paint but mask it so it looks better to the average eye but the flaws are still there.

Many mass market products are just fillers and silicone to cover up the flaws not fix them.

Great products for the one and done customer that is fine with that.

Like I stated it is like putting makeup over bad skin. It is still there but covered up.

Based on what you show you have a perfect understanding of this.