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I am constantly on the hunt for new and better coatings for my vette. With my C6 I found Griots Garage ceramic spray and was impressed. On my C7 I found meguires ceramic spray and was again impressed. I even used it on my C5 but never really cared much for the application process. On a yellow car it's easy to miss a spot. Last week I found Turtle wax Hybid solutions pro Graphene infused "max wax" and was blown away. After I wash my car I always use my leaf blower to dry the car off but with the ceramics I still had to follow up with a towel. When I finished with the TW Graphene this past Monday and broke out the leaf blower after a wash. ALL THE WATER was removed from the car.except for those nooks and crannies and the wheels.No towel follow up was necessary. Turtle wax has really upped their game with this stuff.......
I then finish it with a glaze and then seal it in a decent paste wax that part natural and synthetic.
Turtle Wax is a fine mass market product where everything is in one bottle. If that is what you want I respect that but be aware there are some of us that work to different levels and have our own opinions on what works.
The product this entire thread is about is a protection product. It is a durable synthetic sealant blend that will, more than likely, long outlast your paste wax. How is using a less-durable protection product considered to be working to a "different level"? The Hybrid Solutions product in question is no gimmick. It works well. Period. On a well-cleaned and well-polished vehicle, several months of durability from one application on a well-maintained daily driver can be expected. You will be hard-pressed to find a carnauba or carnauba/synthetic blend paste wax around that will last longer. Not Collinite, not Finish Kare, not Fusso.
If you have been detailing cars as long as you claim, then you obviously know that the correction phase is what gives paint over 95% of it's depth and gloss. What protection you choose to apply afterwards will only be responsible for the remaining percentage. Most people won't be able to tell if that remaining 5% of gloss is because of a cheap bottle of Turtle Wax or a pricey bottle of Polish Angel. In the before-and-after picture below, I corrected a friend's trashed C5 paint. In the after picture, nobody here can tell what product was used for protection. Nobody. It could be a paste wax. It could be a liquid sealant. It could be a ceramic coating. You can't tell.
The point is that you can't come into a thread with zero knowledge of the product in question, make some claim that you use something "on a different level", and then not say what that product is and why it is a better option than the product we are talking about. Facts matter, actual experience with the product matters, and proving your claim matters.
I wonder if it would work with hard water, I’m in the Phoenix area and trying to dry cars quick before the water spots show up is the hardest part of washing cars.
Was dreaming about having some kind of water filter/softener or R.O. system to be able to wash and just rinse off, especially when it’s 110 plus!
I will try it, where can you buy it?
By the way I have used Turtle Wax car wash for years, some with wax already in wash, some just soap, but always has a good smell, maybe a citrus type smell.
I wonder if it would work with hard water, I’m in the Phoenix area and trying to dry cars quick before the water spots show up is the hardest part of washing cars.
Was dreaming about having some kind of water filter/softener or R.O. system to be able to wash and just rinse off, especially when it’s 110 plus!
I will try it, where can you buy it?
By the way I have used Turtle Wax car wash for years, some with wax already in wash, some just soap, but always has a good smell, maybe a citrus type smell.
Bought it at Auto Zone but most parts stores carry it. I don't see where the hardness of the water would prevent it from completely blowing off with a blower. Just do it on a cool surface and in the shade. I'm so sold on it that I just picked up their Wheel cleaner and graphene infused detailing mist for those inbetween applications.
I've been very happy with technician's choice. It was recommended to me by a pro detailer on the forum. You can get on Amazon by the gallon. The ease of application is better than any other product I've tried.
I've been very happy with technician's choice. It was recommended to me by a pro detailer on the forum. You can get on Amazon by the gallon. The ease of application is better than any other product I've tried.
Over the years I have used just about everyones product. I even used pledge furniture polish on the hood eagle of my 76 trans am back in 76. I've tried paste wax, liquid wax, those tiny bottles of ceramic coating but it's the ease of application with this stuff as well as the gloss and slickness after curing that really sold me.
I wonder if it would work with hard water, I’m in the Phoenix area and trying to dry cars quick before the water spots show up is the hardest part of washing cars.
Was dreaming about having some kind of water filter/softener or R.O. system to be able to wash and just rinse off, especially when it’s 110 plus!
I will try it, where can you buy it?
By the way I have used Turtle Wax car wash for years, some with wax already in wash, some just soap, but always has a good smell, maybe a citrus type smell.
I have very hard water and blazing sun here in Texas. If you are like me my Vette is never very dirty and do just mainly rinseless washes. I use 2 gallons of distilled water in a bucket so I don't race to get the car dried before I get severe water spots. This guy that makes these videos is a detail guru. PM me if you have any questions.
You can always spot those with no first-hand knowledge of the topic.
The Turtle Wax lines of "ICE" and "Hybrid Solutions" products are the real deal. Pro detailers have been testing and reviewing the products on YouTube for many years. Personally, I have used, and still do use, many of the products when detailing cars as my side gig. Even a cheap bottle of "ICE Spray Wax" or "ICE Seal & Shine" will provide several months of paint protection, and you will use very little product. When my detailing customers are not interested in paying for a true ceramic coating service, I will protect their paint with one of 3 spray sealants that I use regularly:
Lots of good conversations over in the "Car Care" section if you want to learn more about everyone's experiences with certain products, detailing tips, recommendations, etc.
You can always spot those with no first-hand knowledge of the topic.
The Turtle Wax lines of "ICE" and "Hybrid Solutions" products are the real deal. Pro detailers have been testing and reviewing the products on YouTube for many years. Personally, I have used, and still do use, many of the products when detailing cars as my side gig. Even a cheap bottle of "ICE Spray Wax" or "ICE Seal & Shine" will provide several months of paint protection, and you will use very little product. When my detailing customers are not interested in paying for a true ceramic coating service, I will protect their paint with one of 3 spray sealants that I use regularly:
Lots of good conversations over in the "Car Care" section if you want to learn more about everyone's experiences with certain products, detailing tips, recommendations, etc.
#1 I named no names.
#2 you have no clue of my knowledge and experience in detailing.
Showing cars for 40 years and 3 of them black wining at national levels has made me learn much first hand.
Some people drink I polish.
What many define as a well detailed car is where I start to make better.
My comment Stand as a general statement use caution on fad product.
I know ICE well. I used it for a short while and moved on to better product combinations. I used the left over stuff on house shutters to take out the fade as it was so loaded with silicone.
I work for paint correction and paint condition not just how long water beads.
It may have satisfied your standards but I moved on.
Everyone has different expectations and results they are happy with and that is fine.
I do change up and modify my line of products from time to time. I remain open minded and text often. But generally it is not big box store stuff.
Have you tried Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Pro Graphene Infused "Max Wax"? That stuff is no joke. I've been using it on my ride and it's insane. No more towel drying after washing, just hit it with a leaf blower and it's bone dry. Plus, it's got that graphene infusion which supposedly makes it last longer than other coatings. Give it a shot and let me know what you think.
My comment Stand as a general statement use caution on fad product.
define "fad product" as it relates to a company that has been making car care products since 1941. You don't stay in business for 80 years by manufacturing "fad products.
define "fad product" as it relates to a company that has been making car care products since 1941. You don't stay in business for 80 years by manufacturing "fad products.
Few years back everything was micro this and that. Now everything is graphite.
The truth is much of the things claiming Graphite is more about just adding enough to claim it is in the product. It is not the Graphite you get in the small bottle and have to apply carefully.
We saw the same in carbon fiber pads. There are no standards to how much has to be in a product to make the claim.
Generally much of the product on the big box store is stuffs that is loaded with fillers and silicone and will make your car shine and bead water but it does nothing to correct paint damage or to really condition the paint.
But often that is all what many want and if that is all you want that is fine.
I use a number of different levels of polish based on the condition of the paint. I then finish it with a glaze and then seal it in a decent paste wax that part natural and synthetic.
I use special lights to find the flaws and work them out of the paint.
I show and I like to detail so for me it is not work while it may be more than what others want.
My show car has 40 year old black GM paint and still took the best paint at a large pontiac event. It also wins its class and finished in the to 5 out of 650 Pontiacs at the the Pontiac Nationals twice.
Turtle Wax is a fine mass market product where everything is in one bottle. If that is what you want I respect that but be aware there are some of us that work to different levels and have our own opinions on what works.
My comment is use care on any mass market product and new claim. I have seen them come and go and the proven stuff is still there.
I am always open to learn new products and keep an open mind. But I also have half used bottles of product I just use on the tractor after I find it is not up to what I expect. But that is me.
As for all the photos on the web of polished cars. I once posted a dirty car once and man6 marveled how. Lean it was. It proved my point that Photos cover much.
You get black paint in the early day sun and you will see things that will scare you.
So please do not be overly sensitive. Polish is like religion, politics and oil and others will have different views.
I then finish it with a glaze and then seal it in a decent paste wax that part natural and synthetic.
Turtle Wax is a fine mass market product where everything is in one bottle. If that is what you want I respect that but be aware there are some of us that work to different levels and have our own opinions on what works.
The product this entire thread is about is a protection product. It is a durable synthetic sealant blend that will, more than likely, long outlast your paste wax. How is using a less-durable protection product considered to be working to a "different level"? The Hybrid Solutions product in question is no gimmick. It works well. Period. On a well-cleaned and well-polished vehicle, several months of durability from one application on a well-maintained daily driver can be expected. You will be hard-pressed to find a carnauba or carnauba/synthetic blend paste wax around that will last longer. Not Collinite, not Finish Kare, not Fusso.
If you have been detailing cars as long as you claim, then you obviously know that the correction phase is what gives paint over 95% of it's depth and gloss. What protection you choose to apply afterwards will only be responsible for the remaining percentage. Most people won't be able to tell if that remaining 5% of gloss is because of a cheap bottle of Turtle Wax or a pricey bottle of Polish Angel. In the before-and-after picture below, I corrected a friend's trashed C5 paint. In the after picture, nobody here can tell what product was used for protection. Nobody. It could be a paste wax. It could be a liquid sealant. It could be a ceramic coating. You can't tell.
The point is that you can't come into a thread with zero knowledge of the product in question, make some claim that you use something "on a different level", and then not say what that product is and why it is a better option than the product we are talking about. Facts matter, actual experience with the product matters, and proving your claim matters.
Few years back everything was micro this and that. Now everything is graphite.
The truth is much of the things claiming Graphite is more about just adding enough to claim it is in the product. It is not the Graphite you get in the small bottle and have to apply carefully.
We saw the same in carbon fiber pads. There are no standards to how much has to be in a product to make the claim.
Generally much of the product on the big box store is stuffs that is loaded with fillers and silicone and will make your car shine and bead water but it does nothing to correct paint damage or to really condition the paint.
But often that is all what many want and if that is all you want that is fine.
I use a number of different levels of polish based on the condition of the paint. I then finish it with a glaze and then seal it in a decent paste wax that part natural and synthetic.
I use special lights to find the flaws and work them out of the paint.
I show and I like to detail so for me it is not work while it may be more than what others want.
My show car has 40 year old black GM paint and still took the best paint at a large pontiac event. It also wins its class and finished in the to 5 out of 650 Pontiacs at the the Pontiac Nationals twice.
Turtle Wax is a fine mass market product where everything is in one bottle. If that is what you want I respect that but be aware there are some of us that work to different levels and have our own opinions on what works.
My comment is use care on any mass market product and new claim. I have seen them come and go and the proven stuff is still there.
I am always open to learn new products and keep an open mind. But I also have half used bottles of product I just use on the tractor after I find it is not up to what I expect. But that is me.
As for all the photos on the web of polished cars. I once posted a dirty car once and man6 marveled how. Lean it was. It proved my point that Photos cover much.
You get black paint in the early day sun and you will see things that will scare you.
So please do not be overly sensitive. Polish is like religion, politics and oil and others will have different views.
Dude, were you possesed by Yoda when you wrote the above?
Instead of writing cryptic riddles and making claims about your awesomeness and mastery of detailing why not contribute some substance and guidance based on the products you use and find to be superior?
The product this entire thread is about is a protection product. It is a durable synthetic sealant blend that will, more than likely, long outlast your paste wax. How is using a less-durable protection product considered to be working to a "different level"? The Hybrid Solutions product in question is no gimmick. It works well. Period. On a well-cleaned and well-polished vehicle, several months of durability from one application on a well-maintained daily driver can be expected. You will be hard-pressed to find a carnauba or carnauba/synthetic blend paste wax around that will last longer. Not Collinite, not Finish Kare, not Fusso.
If you have been detailing cars as long as you claim, then you obviously know that the correction phase is what gives paint over 95% of it's depth and gloss. What protection you choose to apply afterwards will only be responsible for the remaining percentage. Most people won't be able to tell if that remaining 5% of gloss is because of a cheap bottle of Turtle Wax or a pricey bottle of Polish Angel. In the before-and-after picture below, I corrected a friend's trashed C5 paint. In the after picture, nobody here can tell what product was used for protection. Nobody. It could be a paste wax. It could be a liquid sealant. It could be a ceramic coating. You can't tell.
The point is that you can't come into a thread with zero knowledge of the product in question, make some claim that you use something "on a different level", and then not say what that product is and why it is a better option than the product we are talking about. Facts matter, actual experience with the product matters, and proving your claim matters.
Sorry I did not think you needed all the air in the room.
If you don’t like my post ignore it.
not everything here is protection product and we all are allowed our own opinions
I used to defend Corvette guys but what they were saying is true with some.
My warning was use care not that this was crap. Too often people get taken my gimmick items and products and there are tons out there.
Dude, were you possesed by Yoda when you wrote the above?
Instead of writing cryptic riddles and making claims about your awesomeness and mastery of detailing why not contribute some substance and guidance based on the products you use and find to be superior?
I would if I were not being attacked and the rude treatment.
I am new here and find more rude treatment here than any other forum.
Most places let you say what you think. But here it is nothing but trash talk if you do not agree.
Corvette people are often called difficult to be polite and some of you don’t make it easy to defend.
You guy eat your own over wax?
I acknowledged that there are a number of good products and combinations. I have not said this new stuff is crap but beware many are and generally your best finish and protection is not in one bottle or spray.
I would if I were not being attacked and the rude treatment.
I am m new here and find more rite treatment here than any other forum.
Most places let you say what you think. But here it is nothing but trash talk if you do not agree.
I'm a member of 7 forums this one and LS1Tech for my vette and 5 others for the 5 other vehicles I have. This forum is hands down the very best when it comes to contributions and experienced feedback. As well as enthusiasts willing to spend the time and effort to help others solve technical problems and lend advice. Many of the folks around here have been playing the car/vette/hot rod game for decades. So they tend to expect claims to be backed up with first-hand experience. Not just general statements citing the obvious.
I agree with you that shelves are filled with gimmicks and snake oil. However, just making that statement doesn't help much when others are sharing their experience with specific products. I've got 15 or 20 different polish and spray detailers in my garage along with 20 or 30 different wheel cleaners, interior treatments, window cleaners, tire shines etc. I can only speak to the results of what I've used. None of them by themselves blow me away with results. So I'm always open to try something new... as long as others have a good experience and reccomend it.
Try making suggestions next time and not opening with just being conspicuous.
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