[Z06] Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (rbartick)
If he would have backed up from the throttle the M3 would have got a bigger advantage off the line and no way he would have catch him.....
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (ivan111)
Good footage, bad race. I would be more interested in seeing a rolling start, say 15-20 mph, especially with the poor traction!
The M3 is fast through 2nd gear, then its all downhill from there.
The M3 is fast through 2nd gear, then its all downhill from there.
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (tlaselva)
To my eye the Z06 passed him at the end. Its easy to spin in the heat of battle! I was actually looking to buy an M3 on Ebay! Being the best performer is not everything. But I could have gotten a brand new Z06 for what a 2 year old M3 was going for! So I said fo-git-a-bout-it.
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (CJS)
Once the Z got into third, which was were full throttle could finally be applied, it wasn't long before the Z pulled in the lead. By the time I hit the brakes,
he was ahead by about 3 car lengths.
Some of you are right, that it was the drivers fault.
But remember this was the first time he ever opened it up on the street, and at this temperature. The grip difference between a drag strip during the summer and a 32 Degree side street is a BIG difference. Took a few runs for him to get the throttle just right.
Burnout would've helped, but he wasn't about to do a burnout with 1200 dollar tires....Yes, that's what those suckers cost for a pair up here.
Remember, it was just for kicks, so win or loose, it was just between a few buddies just having some fun... :cheers:
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he was ahead by about 3 car lengths.
Some of you are right, that it was the drivers fault.
But remember this was the first time he ever opened it up on the street, and at this temperature. The grip difference between a drag strip during the summer and a 32 Degree side street is a BIG difference. Took a few runs for him to get the throttle just right.
Burnout would've helped, but he wasn't about to do a burnout with 1200 dollar tires....Yes, that's what those suckers cost for a pair up here.
Remember, it was just for kicks, so win or loose, it was just between a few buddies just having some fun... :cheers:
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (CJS)
But I could have gotten a brand new Z06 for what a 2 year old M3 was going for! So I said fo-git-a-bout-it.
You made the right choice...... :yesnod:
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (ivan111)
If he would have backed up from the throttle the M3 would have got a bigger advantage off the line and no way he would have catch him.....
If the driver heated the tires and modulated the clutch out of the hole the M3 would have been toast from the start. The driver didn't go for it from the start so he got eaten for the first 1/8th.
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (tlaselva)
First off, I LOVE the Z! Might even be getting one when the C6 comes out to park next my M.
But you guys have got to admit (even the ones that don't want to) that the M3 held it's own pretty darn well against a MONSTER like the Z, even though it weighs roughly 300 lbs more, and has 70 less HP from it's little 3.2L inline-6. :thumbs:
For those that are interested, below is a video from a *bone* stock E46 M3 running a 12.77 @ 107MPH with a 1.81 60' time. The owner's best time is a 12.72...bone stock. Definitely not Z06 numbers, but pretty dang good nonetheless.
http://www.daftproductions.com/m3/cap0004.mpg
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But you guys have got to admit (even the ones that don't want to) that the M3 held it's own pretty darn well against a MONSTER like the Z, even though it weighs roughly 300 lbs more, and has 70 less HP from it's little 3.2L inline-6. :thumbs:
For those that are interested, below is a video from a *bone* stock E46 M3 running a 12.77 @ 107MPH with a 1.81 60' time. The owner's best time is a 12.72...bone stock. Definitely not Z06 numbers, but pretty dang good nonetheless.
http://www.daftproductions.com/m3/cap0004.mpg
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (ivan111)
If he would have backed up from the throttle the M3 would have got a bigger advantage off the line and no way he would have catch him.....
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (rbartick)
[/QUOTE]If the driver heated the tires and modulated the clutch out of the hole the M3 would have been toast from the start. The driver didn't go for it from the start so he got eaten for the first 1/8th.[/QUOTE]
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (ivan111)
No it was not the driver fault....When you have 400 lf-ft of Torque in a slippery surface is no easy to put that force in the ground......
M3's has only about 260 plus lf-ft of Torque so is much easy to launch it in a slippery surface....
And is tougher to control if you swicht off the traction control...... :chevy
M3's has only about 260 plus lf-ft of Torque so is much easy to launch it in a slippery surface....
And is tougher to control if you swicht off the traction control...... :chevy
The M3 driver was better. You're only looking at part of the equation. The torque the motor puts out goes thru the tranny gear multiplication and the rear end gear multiplication. The M3 actually puts down more torque to the wheels in 1st gear than the Z06. And this is going thru skinnier tires.
But due to the shorter gearing and less hp, the Z06 will always pull up top. The M3 is more suited to compete with a regular C5.
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (tlaselva)
Come on now!
I've recently owned an E46 and you're picking on little kids. THe Bimmer is a fast car but this is apples to oranges. Go find another ZO6 to pick on! Take a chance with your pride! :cheers:
I've recently owned an E46 and you're picking on little kids. THe Bimmer is a fast car but this is apples to oranges. Go find another ZO6 to pick on! Take a chance with your pride! :cheers:
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Re: Z06 vs. E46 M3 Race (Roadfrog)
Come on now!
I've recently owned an E46 and you're picking on little kids. THe Bimmer is a fast car but this is apples to oranges. Go find another ZO6 to pick on! Take a chance with your pride! :cheers:
I've recently owned an E46 and you're picking on little kids. THe Bimmer is a fast car but this is apples to oranges. Go find another ZO6 to pick on! Take a chance with your pride! :cheers:
Your being rather assumptious. :rolleyes:
There's no question between both of them which car's faster.
Being good friends, they can appreciate both cars. Hell, I've owned an M3 myself, less than a year ago.
Actually, it was the M3 driver who wanted to run that night.
Because of the cold weather, the M3 driver knew that traction would be a big factor in a race on the street, combined with the cold weather, knew that the conditions would be favorable.
Suggest you read my origional post carefully again. :)
Just a fun run between two buddies, late one night.
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