CLB Rant!!!
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Almost 4 years with the bypass installed=4 years of freedom from nagging anxiety every time I get behind the wheel 
Burning Brakes
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From: Introducing teh Offical Car of your dreams
Originally Posted by Shylor
Are we sure this will happen? In my letter it doesn't state what changes will be done with the PCM reprogram. Where is the info on what takes place with the reprogram?
Burning Brakes
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From: Introducing teh Offical Car of your dreams
Originally Posted by 6 speed Sid
With the CLB installed is there any way the pin could drop into the lock plate?? It appears not, but I have never seen the mechanism. Sid.
The pin retracts by the motor. I do not believe it can drop loose on its on at all. What has been causing the problem so far is that it wont retract. I have not heard of anyone having it lock while driving....
Le Mans Master
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From: Central Coast CA
Originally Posted by C54EVER
What you need to do is call several different Chevy service managers and ask them exactly what the re-program is doing....not the lock or anything else.....just ask what the programming alone is doing....you will then have the answer you seek...and the one several people here and in other threads have given you already
Well nobody here said where they got this information, that's why I asked. Everyone is stating this and stating that but not giving sources of the information.
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From: Western NY
Originally Posted by 6 speed Sid
With the CLB installed is there any way the pin could drop into the lock plate?? It appears not, but I have never seen the mechanism. Sid.
I just got my recall notice yesterday, and I'm really torn as to what course of action to take. The car is three years old, although only 8K miles, but I've had zero problems with it, and I hate to take it back to the dealer!
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Burning Brakes
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From: Introducing teh Offical Car of your dreams
[QUOTE=leadfoot4]As I mentioned in another thread a coulpe of weeks ago, I installed the CLB, and then the pin started to slip out of the retracted mode...while I was driving.
How were able to tell this was happening ? While you were driving ?
How were able to tell this was happening ? While you were driving ?
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From: Western NY
[QUOTE=C54EVER]
As I would turn the steering wheel, I would hear a clicking noise. I assume that the lock plate has several positions for the pin to engage, and it was hitting those spots as the steering column turned. Yes, this was happening as I drove the car. Needless to say, the CLB was removed the next day...
Originally Posted by leadfoot4
How were able to tell this was happening ? While you were driving ?
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St. Jude Donor '11
Good thread Stock Man...
...but what about us '04 A4 owners???Is there a problem with ours also? I haven't heard anyone mention this so far for '04 automatic transmission owners.....unless I missed it...I also called GM and gave customer service my VIN number and she looked it up and said there were no recalls for my vehicle but she also said that there were lots of recall notices sent out for the exact Vette as mine built several months before mine because some washers were left out somewhere......GO FIGURE....
...but what about us '04 A4 owners???Is there a problem with ours also? I haven't heard anyone mention this so far for '04 automatic transmission owners.....unless I missed it...I also called GM and gave customer service my VIN number and she looked it up and said there were no recalls for my vehicle but she also said that there were lots of recall notices sent out for the exact Vette as mine built several months before mine because some washers were left out somewhere...
...GO FIGURE....
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From: Introducing teh Offical Car of your dreams
Originally Posted by leadfoot4
As I would turn the steering wheel, I would hear a clicking noise. I assume that the lock plate has several positions for the pin to engage, and it was hitting those spots as the steering column turned. Yes, this was happening as I drove the car. Needless to say, the CLB was removed the next day...
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From: HONOLULU HAWAII
Originally Posted by Yello95
Good thread Stock Man...
...but what about us '04 A4 owners???Is there a problem with ours also? I haven't heard anyone mention this so far for '04 automatic transmission owners.....unless I missed it...I also called GM and gave customer service my VIN number and she looked it up and said there were no recalls for my vehicle but she also said that there were lots of recall notices sent out for the exact Vette as mine built several months before mine because some washers were left out somewhere......GO FIGURE....
...but what about us '04 A4 owners???Is there a problem with ours also? I haven't heard anyone mention this so far for '04 automatic transmission owners.....unless I missed it...I also called GM and gave customer service my VIN number and she looked it up and said there were no recalls for my vehicle but she also said that there were lots of recall notices sent out for the exact Vette as mine built several months before mine because some washers were left out somewhere...
...GO FIGURE....You dont have a column lock in a 04 A4. It was eliminated.
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From: Western NY
Originally Posted by C54EVER
OK...so after you removed your CLB did this "clicking noise" stop ? Are you getting the recall done now ?
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From: DFW Tx
Originally Posted by leadfoot4
Yes, the "clicking" stopped immediately after removing the CLB. As I mentiond previously, I'm very hesitant to let the dealer touch the car. So far, "knock on wood", I've had zero problems with the car, and don't want to open the door for any screw ups to happen....
Just like Stockman said above, the default Column Lock (CL) functioning is only powered for 1 second @ key On and 1 second @ key removal. All other times it is unpowered.
With the CLB installed, the Column Lock is not powered and therefore should not be able to move. I wonder if you CL pin was broken by someone to get the column unlocked? Or, maybe the CLB itself was the source of the rattle? Did you zip-tie up the CL wires when you disconnected them?
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Sorry but if GM has known of this problem since like 97 - 98 they should have scrapped or revised all there existing steering locks and provided there next customers (1999-2004) with a trustworthy product. This all sounds to me like a MICKEY MOUSE fix so they could use up obsolete parts at the expense of there customers safety / bank accounts. Not what I would expect at all. 
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From: Western NY
Originally Posted by DogOneTex
With the CLB installed, the Column Lock is not powered and therefore should not be able to move. I wonder if you CL pin was broken by someone to get the column unlocked? Or, maybe the CLB itself was the source of the rattle? Did you zip-tie up the CL wires when you disconnected them?
When reinstaling the underdash cover, I did experience some difficulty getting it aligned around the ignition switch bezel. Maybe this caused some sort of internal binding in the lock mechanism. When I removed the CLB, I also loosened and slid back the console trim panel, which allowed me to slide the lower dash panel much easier.
I doubt that the CL pin has been damaged, as the car worked fine before I installed the CLB, and has been OK since it's removal. I don't know what to say, other than it didn't work for me....