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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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I know the info is in here somewhere, but the search feature doesn't seem to be turning up many hits right now.

I know that a lot of you like to jack up the rear of your car higher than the front when changing the oil.

My question is, how many of you have tried measuring how much extra oil you get out with this method? I'm wondering if it's even worth the trouble of jacking it up?

On my first oil change with my C5 a few weeks ago I simply had the car up on rhino ramps (on the front only) and with the drain plug still off I poured one fresh quart of new oil into the engine in order to "flush out" a bit more of the oil that might be trapped in the back of the pan.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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about one pint comes out if you raise the rear.
easy way to do it is back the rear tires onto 2x10s, jack up the driver side, remove plug and filter, lower car and let it sit for 15 minutes. jack car back up and put in plug and filter, lower car and drive away feeling clean. my c5 takes 6.75 quarts to hit the full mark this way.
appreciate your work in the oil testing section.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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If you are driving on Rhino Ramps you need to have the car level at the very least. I just like the idea of raising the rear to get all the old oil out that I can.

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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
I know the info is in here somewhere, but the search feature doesn't seem to be turning up many hits right now.

I know that a lot of you like to jack up the rear of your car higher than the front when changing the oil.

My question is, how many of you have tried measuring how much extra oil you get out with this method? I'm wondering if it's even worth the trouble of jacking it up?

On my first oil change with my C5 a few weeks ago I simply had the car up on rhino ramps (on the front only) and with the drain plug still off I poured one fresh quart of new oil into the engine in order to "flush out" a bit more of the oil that might be trapped in the back of the pan.
I just changed mine two days ago. Drove 4 wheels up on four 2x10's, 18 inches long. Jacked the front (used stands), removed drain plug, then lowered the front back down. Did NOT raise the rear. By the time all oil was drained, and filter was changed it took all 7 qts. to hit the full mark on the dipstick (after several starts of the engine to circulate, then waiting for it to settle again). That tells me raising the rear is a waste of time.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 02:44 AM
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IMHO, yes, it is necessary to raise the rear. You can bitch about it to GM, about how they could have put the drain plug on the opposite side, or on an angled section on the side of the case, but nooooo.

I say if you are going to go through the trouble to do something, do it right. No one can dispute that you still have a fair amount of dirty oil (and you could argue that the stuff on the bottom may be the dirtiest) in the pan, especially if you've got the front end propped up. Think about it.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by VERYSOON
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about one pint comes out if you raise the rear.
easy way to do it is back the rear tires onto 2x10s, jack up the driver side, remove plug and filter, lower car and let it sit for 15 minutes. jack car back up and put in plug and filter, lower car and drive away feeling clean. my c5 takes 6.75 quarts to hit the full mark this way.
appreciate your work in the oil testing section.
g
6.75 quarts here - i drive up on rhino ramps, jack up the rear so it's slightly higher than the front and drain for 15-30 minutes. only mobil 1 and upf44's for me -

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I have always raised the rear too make sure I get all the old oil out!
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
I know the info is in here somewhere, but the search feature doesn't seem to be turning up many hits right now.

I know that a lot of you like to jack up the rear of your car higher than the front when changing the oil.

My question is, how many of you have tried measuring how much extra oil you get out with this method? I'm wondering if it's even worth the trouble of jacking it up?

On my first oil change with my C5 a few weeks ago I simply had the car up on rhino ramps (on the front only) and with the drain plug still off I poured one fresh quart of new oil into the engine in order to "flush out" a bit more of the oil that might be trapped in the back of the pan.

I can't believe it. The oil fanatic himself doesn't go to the trouble to do an oil change right but will argue down to the tiniest differences in a UOA!

Not only does geting the car level make a difference but, then after an initial drain, going past level adds quite a bit more to the pan. Also the oil will continue to drain for a good half hour.

Buy a $20 lack and do it right!

Sorry couldn't resist after some of the past lectures you have given out! If the smiley icon worked I would stick a couple of them on here!
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I made my front ramps out of stacking 3 2X10s (staggered so I can drive up on them.). I guess I don't understand the question. For the 30 seconds it takes to jack up the rear when doing the oil change it is well worth it. Not only does it get ALL the oil out it also helps get the sludge and heavy particles in the bottom of the pan. I actually jack the rear up before I remove the plug that way the higher flow actually helps move the junk sitting on the bottom.
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Originally Posted by BlueDragon
I made my front ramps out of stacking 3 2X10s (staggered so I can drive up on them.). I guess I don't understand the question. For the 30 seconds it takes to jack up the rear when doing the oil change it is well worth it. Not only does it get ALL the oil out it also helps get the sludge and heavy particles in the bottom of the pan. I actually jack the rear up before I remove the plug that way the higher flow actually helps move the junk sitting on the bottom.
Sounds familiar! Since this photo I have added a 4th 2 x 12.

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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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Hey, those are my ramps! those are almost exactly how I made mine. Slight difference and I used long screws to hold them together, but otherwise the same. And you had trouble with yours sliding as well. I glued 4 pieces of rubber gasket material to the bottom of mine! I still only use three. I use Jack stands and a jack from there.

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Sounds familiar! Since this photo I have added a 4th 2 x 12.

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Never tried to measure the extra oil that comes out. I too like to get all the old oil I can out, therefore, the practice of raising the rear end higher.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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I change my oil before each drag race outing - 2-3 times each month using Valvoline 20/50 racing oil, it never looks dirty!

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Patman, did you put in the GC? Any issues? Someone is reporting startup noise in a VW with the GC, just curious as my change is rapidly approaching.
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