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I stand corrected. The 2001 Z is inferior to the later models and I shall give myself 20 lashes for providing my input to the contrary
As the earlier poser suggested my biased opinion is that the realworld (at least in autocrossing) will negate any difference you see..... it'll boil down to economics: $27K for a 2001 or $30+K for a later model. Up to you. If you've got the extra coin go for it.
Of course if you decide on the 2001 you join the scruffy bunch of low HP oilburners.... but we're a freindly bunch
The '01 is a nice fun powerful ride. Just make sure it doesn't have a lot of the problems associated with '01s. You can listen to these guys defend them by saying theirs is fine, etc......the fact of the matter is that the '01 Z06 had more problems than any other year model. Does that make them crap? Absolutely not. They're great cars.....just make sure you get one that doesn't have these problems (burning lots of oil, column lock, etc).
The '02-'04 models are more desirable though, and that's just the way it is. Stock hp rating matters - a lot. Especially upon resale.
It just comes down to the particular car you want to buy.
My 01 Had All The Problems Stated Above, But I Got Them Fixed, And Then Added The Hud Display, Now I Am Going To Keep It. I Will Not Give It Up, This Car Is Fast, Powerful, Good Looking And Best Of All It Is Almost Paid For !
Ok here it is. This is my personal experience with my 2001 Z06: I bought my car in May of last year with 7000 miles on it. I do alot of high speed highway driving. I was burning a qt. about every 1500 miles. I asked the dealer about it and they told me it was normal. BS! But I also noticed that the oil consumption came to a complete halt at about 12000 miles. I now have 28000 on the car and am using no oil at all. So I submit that you may be taking some sort of chance with a 01, or you may be lucky like me, without being re-rung.
Good Luck with your Hunt
I stand corrected. The 2001 Z is inferior to the later models and I shall give myself 20 lashes for providing my input to the contrary
As the earlier poser suggested my biased opinion is that the realworld (at least in autocrossing) will negate any difference you see..... it'll boil down to economics: $27K for a 2001 or $30+K for a later model. Up to you. If you've got the extra coin go for it.
Of course if you decide on the 2001 you join the scruffy bunch of low HP oilburners.... but we're a freindly bunch
so what was your bone stock dyno hp??353?? wow, and my 01 "oil burner" is 347...big deal so have we beat this to death yet?? happy motoring and it does give me some satisfaction to run against the 02-04's on the street in the real world and unless modded, who is faster, it comes down to who has the most worn F1's that looses
"The car is bone stock and the day I got it I had it dynoed @ MTI:
347.3HP/340.9TQ at the rear wheels on a hot 90 deg day in Houston."
Bud - My 2001 Z dynoed as stated above bone stock - so we're in the same ball park.
I was thinking about this as I drove to work today with my 385 HP car.... and thought also - if we drove 170 HP Honda's.... the 20 HP will be a far bigger deal (11% diff) but since we have more than twice that power stock it's less of a difference.... with a 385 HP motor - (5% diff).
I've noticed that level of HP variance due to weather and track conditions. But 20 hp is 20 hp... so I see your point.
Anyway - I think we can agree to disagree.
If you want a bargain, and if you find a non-oil burner (typically a later build-date car or one documented to NOT burn oil, I say go for it.
I'm no country club guy - so the original $45K+ entry fee was limiting; however, when I saw 2001's going for well under 30K in good original unmolested shape.... I went for it and am pleased.
Eventually my 2001 Z will be a w/e toy and will be recieving a stroker - so the stock-stock comparisons will not matter if you mod it.
Heck the 2001 Z badges might make her a sleeper to the uninformed.
Good luck with your decision.
Oil Burning Check - I was told to check a couple things to determine if it's a oil burner: 1) Tailpipes/rear valence - check for oil residue after some hard driving (this is what my dealer passed along to me), 2) Dipstick, 3) Vehicle service records (if avail).
so what was your bone stock dyno hp??353?? wow, and my 01 "oil burner" is 347...big deal so have we beat this to death yet?? happy motoring and it does give me some satisfaction to run against the 02-04's on the street in the real world and unless modded, who is faster, it comes down to who has the most worn F1's that looses
20HP is 20HP, given the same drivers and enough traction, the 405 car wins everytime.
Is there also a suspension bushing issue on the 2001's? This was brought to me by a 2004 Z06 owner I spoke to at the track. Now granted, I plan on replacing the stock bushings with poly ones for track use. Maybe it makes a difference or not, is this true?
From: Admit Nothing, Deny Everything, Make Counter Accusations.
The average stock 01 Z dynos in the 330s and the average stock 02+ Z dynos in the 350s.
When considering a specific model or generation Vette it is prudent to purchase the newest one you can afford (considering like condition and mileage). The cars are improved almost every year.
From: Admit Nothing, Deny Everything, Make Counter Accusations.
The average stock 01 Z dynos in the 330s and the average stock 02+ Z dynos in the 350s.
When considering a specific model or generation Vette it is prudent to purchase the newest one you can afford (considering like condition and mileage). The cars are improved almost every year.
The average stock 01 Z dynos in the 330s and the average stock 02+ Z dynos in the 350s.
When considering a specific model or generation Vette it is prudent to purchase the newest one you can afford (considering like condition and mileage). The cars are improved almost every year.
While that's nice to know but honestly, who would buy a Z06 and not drive it over 3500 rpm's? And just for the record, my 2003 doesn't burn a single drop of oil and I go over 3500 rpm's every day. Isn't that the way it should be?
Well you kind of missed my point.....true the 01's are known to have the oil issue but it is more noticeable over 3500 rpms. Im not talking about going over that rpm every once in a while but driving in that powerband regularly. I also agree that if that is the powerband we want to drive in we should be able to without penalty. I was merely stating that it driving habits are one of the factors GM looks at when trying to determine whether warranty work will be done....I notice alot less oil usage when driving "normal" compared to always running around at 3500-4000 so I could hear my exhaust and have instant power .......Just adding info ...not fuel to the fire.
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