Odometer fraud question.
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Burning Brakes
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From: simpson town Mo
Odometer fraud question.
Im wondering if my corvette didnt have more miles on it than it says since i bought a 2000 with only 20xxx miles on it and there seems to be a bit of valvetrain noise and one of the screws holding the cluster shroud in is the incorrect screw.Maybe just me but im wondering.Is there any way of seeing if it has more miles than the cluster reads?
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
i'm goign to take a stab at this, but i may be crazy but i sware i've seen that the actual milage is stored in more than one place in the car, see if this can be confirmed and or scanned at the dealership.
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However, the dealship can run a check on your VIN number to tell you the service history of the car. For example, if the tire sensors were replaced at 50k miles, they'd know it (assuming the repair happened at a GM dealership). If it had 30K miles on it two years ago, it's highly unlikely that it has 20K now! 
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Originally Posted by BiggieBoy
The mileage is stored only in the instrument cluster. 
Thats interesting. Something to watch out for as the C5s get older.
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I love shopping for used cars. I just bought a 2003 Toyota Corolla for my granddaughter.
I too try to determine the mileage on the car in two ways. The first thing I look at is the odometer to see what it says. Then, I look at the wear in the seat to see if it matches the miles on the car. Second, I look at the wear on the brake pedal to see if that matches the miles on the car. People who roll back mileage never change the brake pedal for some reason. After you look at some honest cars, the dishonest ones show themselves rather quickly. Tires is another area that can be of help. If the car came with a treadwear rating of 300 meaning 30,000 mile tires then the fronts should be two thirds gone. If they have been replaced at 20K, I would wonder why someone would do that.
If the seller has records you usually have an honest car. Lastly, you can check with the dealer that surviced the car to see what it was in for last and the mileage.
Hope this helps others.
Dan
I too try to determine the mileage on the car in two ways. The first thing I look at is the odometer to see what it says. Then, I look at the wear in the seat to see if it matches the miles on the car. Second, I look at the wear on the brake pedal to see if that matches the miles on the car. People who roll back mileage never change the brake pedal for some reason. After you look at some honest cars, the dishonest ones show themselves rather quickly. Tires is another area that can be of help. If the car came with a treadwear rating of 300 meaning 30,000 mile tires then the fronts should be two thirds gone. If they have been replaced at 20K, I would wonder why someone would do that.
If the seller has records you usually have an honest car. Lastly, you can check with the dealer that surviced the car to see what it was in for last and the mileage.
Hope this helps others.
Dan
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Originally Posted by OOBlackconvert
Run a Car Fax, it should give you all the information you need.
Carfax is only good if the owner reports all the info to the right sources.
If I never bring my car in for service (DYI) Never change my auto reg (DMV) never crash it and report it to the DMV, I could swap out clusters 5 years from now with one that has 100000 miles on it and say I kept it in the garage.
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Originally Posted by sshole
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VEHICLE INFORMATION
Merchandising Model : 1YY07 -2000 CORVETTE COUPE Warranty Start Date : 04/06/2000
BARS Order Type : 60 - RETAIL - SOLD
Delivering Dealer : MAYSE AUTOMOTIVE GROUP, INC.
PO BOX 259
AURORA , MO 65605-0259
(417) 678-2118
CLAIM HISTORY
R.O Date R.O Number Type Labor Operation Odometer Reading
09/24/2004 315506 # V1153 - 04006 - INSTALL HARNESS KIT - AUTOMATICS ONLY 23511 miles
03/07/2003 052862 # R4490 - TRANSMITTER, REMOTE DOOR/REAR COMPARTMENT LOCK - REPLACE 13155 miles
02/06/2001 085534 # E9050 - PUMP ASSEMBLY, POWER STEERING - REPLACE 6567 miles
02/06/2001 085534 # N4585 - SENSOR, ENGINE OIL PRESSURE - REPLACE 6567 miles
02/06/2001 085534 # Z5001 - VIP FREIGHT/POSTAGE REIMBURESEMENT 6567 miles
04/04/2000 070837 # Z6999 - PDI RELATED FLUID ADDS 10 miles
03/13/2000 523280 I Z7000 - PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION - BASE TIME 0 miles
VEHICLE BUILD
Merchandising Model : 1YY07 -2000 CORVETTE COUPE
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating : 1686 kg (3718 lb) Order Number : CGKZJB
Build Date : 03/13/2000 Build Plant : 1Y5Y - BOWLING GREEN
OPTION CODES
AAB - MEMORY PACKAGE AG2 - SIX-WAY POWER PASSENGER SEAT
AK5 - DRIVER & PASSENGER SUPPLEMENTAL INFLATABLE RESTRAINT SYSTEM AQ9 - ADJUSTABLE SPORT BUCKET SEATS WITH LEATHER TRIMMED SEATING SURFACES
BGR - BOWLING GREEN PLANT B34 - COLOR-KEYED FRONT FLOOR MATS, CARPETED INSERTS
B84 - BODY SIDE MOLDINGS CF7 - REMOVABLE SUN ROOF
CJ2 - AIR CONDITIONING-ELECTRONIC DUAL ZONE DL5 - ROADSIDE SERVICE INFORMATION DECAL
DL8 - HEATED REARVIEW MIRRORS FE1 - SUSPENSION SYSTEM-SOFT RIDE
FE9 - FEDERAL EMISSIONS F45 - SELECTIVE REAL TIME DAMPING
GU2 - REAR AXLE 2.73 RATIO IL3 - TRIM INTERIOR DESIGN-AQ9
JL9 - 4-WHEEL DISC ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM K63 - 110 AMP GENERATOR
LS1 - 5.7L LITER SFI, V8 MX0 - 4-SPD. AUTO. TRANS. W/OVERDRIVE
M30 - 4 SPEED ELECTRONIC AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION WITH OVERDRIVE NF2 - FEDERAL EMISSION SYSTEM, TIER 1
NK4 - LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL N37 - STEERING COLUMN - POWER TELESCOPING & MANUAL TILT
QF5 - POLISHED ALUMINUM WHEEL R9Z - POMS EXPEDITE - SOLD ORDERS
T96 - FOG LAMPS UN0 - AM/FM STEREO W/CD PLAYER
UV7 - WINDSHIELD ANTENNA UZ6 - BOSE SPEAKER & AMPLIFIER SYSTEM
U52 - ELECTRONIC INSTRUMENTATION VM3 - CONSUMER INFORMATION LABEL
V73 - STATEMENT OF VEHICLE CERT.-U.S. /CANADA XGG - FRONT TIRE-P245/45ZR17 BW SBR
YGH - REAR TIRE-P275/40ZR18 BW SBR 1SA - OPTION PACKAGE - BASE
19I - INT EBONY INTERIOR TRIM 193 - BLACK LEATHER TRIMMED SEATING SURFACE
41U - BLACK
Looks like the previous owner had it in last on
03/07/2003 - TRANSMITTER, REMOTE DOOR/REAR COMPARTMENT LOCK - REPLACE 13155 miles
That was the worked performed to the vehicle, then the dealership did the colum recall with 23511 miles and last sold it to you with 23539 miles. Now if you still question the mileage let your dealer know your concerns, there is a black box on most vehicles and the C5 has one, that will let them know the actual miles on the vehicle. They will compare it to the odometer at that point you will have your answer.
You do have a 3 Months 3000 Miles of bumper to bumper warranty in your case expires at 26539.
Hope this helps out Mr LASITER
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Originally Posted by sshole
wow what did i have to eat today.Geez i had no idea i would get all that info thanks man. Where is the black box located?
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your avatar...is creeping me out 
Save the Lamas .
The previous Owner could of tapped into the Vehicle speed sensor and do a Toggle to turn ON/OFF the Mileage cluster when he wanted.
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My new '04 had some bad pixels in the DIC, and they replaced the cluster. My vette came out of the shop with fewer miles than when it went in. Obviously they didn't take good notes before they removed the bad cluster. It looks like they used the mileage from my previous visit (a week or so earlier) when they witnessed the problem and ordered the replacement cluster.