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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:37 AM
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Got in the car Saturday and turned the key... click...click...click Put a voltmeter on the battery and it showed 9.5 volts. Put a trickle charger on it for two hours and it showed 12.8 volts. Tried to start it. Click...click...click. Voltmeter showed 8 volts. Pulled the battery out, had it tested, bought a new one. Car is happy again. This is a 2002 coupe that I bought new 28 months ago. Why did Chevy put such crappy batteries in a $50K car?
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I would guess in order to keep it at $50,000.


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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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[QUOTE=Rattler71]I would guess in order to keep it at $50,000.


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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by C5 JET
Got in the car Saturday and turned the key... click...click...click Put a voltmeter on the battery and it showed 9.5 volts. Put a trickle charger on it for two hours and it showed 12.8 volts. Tried to start it. Click...click...click. Voltmeter showed 8 volts. Pulled the battery out, had it tested, bought a new one. Car is happy again. This is a 2002 coupe that I bought new 28 months ago. Why did Chevy put such crappy batteries in a $50K car?
Don't you have 3yr/36,000 mile bumper to bumper standard warranty? Shouldn't it cover the battery?
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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If the battery goes below the recommended/operating voltage, you should use a 10 amp charger as quickly as possible. Trickle chargers usually don't have the ouput high enough to 'revive' a dead battery.

I you are looking for a new battery, well, I'd say look into a dry cell battery: It weights a lot less and it has none of the shortcomings of most 'off the shelf batteries'

http://www.odysseybatteries.com/
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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Does anyone know if when the battery gets weak or gets replaced do they have to reprogram the computer for all those warning messages? I left my radar detector on for a few days and I had to use the portable charger/starter to start it. Now I'm getting those messages all the time and it's driving me Thanks. Carl
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Does anyone know if when the battery gets weak or gets replaced do they have to reprogram the computer for all those warning messages? I left my radar detector on for a few days and I had to use the portable charger/starter to start it. Now I'm getting those messages all the time and it's driving me Thanks. Carl
battery died 2 weeks ago...put in an optima...had to re-program the memory for a/c and radio only...?...
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I wish I knew why they can't put a decent battery in the car. I dumped mine less than a year after I bought it and put in an Optima. No problems since.
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I don't think it's an issue about a "decent" battery - it's more that the battery is the standard off the shelf AC Delco battery that's used in millions of other cars. If they have to start designing special single purpose stuff for Vettes - the car will become an exotic like a Ferrarri.

A very popular choice on the forum as well as car enthusiasts overall is the Optima. It won't leak and it's a very high quality piece. If you have a pretty standard Vette (no complex electronics, stereos, etc.) the standard Optima Red Top model 75/35 will fit perfectly, it's 720 cold cranking amps and has both side and top terminals. Costco sells them everyday for $100.

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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
I don't think it's an issue about a "decent" battery - it's more that the battery is the standard off the shelf AC Delco battery that's used in millions of other cars. If they have to start designing special single purpose stuff for Vettes - the car will become an exotic like a Ferrarri.
That is basically what I was trying to say in my answer but I didn't do a very good job of it.

People are always complaining about certain problems with these cars. If they were all changed the corvette would cost much more than it does now.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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My OEM battery is now 3 and a half years old and still starts like the day it was new. I guess daily driving is good for ANY type of battery, but is especially good to AC Delco AGM batteries.

As far as replacement batteries go, I've bought Walmart batteries for $30 and Motorcraft batteries for $100. Both lasted 5 years, so I now buy batteries for my other cars at Walmart. The C5 probably should have a leakproof-type battery, considering the location of its brains (beneath the battery), however.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave68
My OEM battery is now 3 and a half years old and still starts like the day it was new. I guess daily driving is good for ANY type of battery, but is especially good to AC Delco AGM batteries.

As far as replacement batteries go, I've bought Walmart batteries for $30 and Motorcraft batteries for $100. Both lasted 5 years, so I now buy batteries for my other cars at Walmart. The C5 probably should have a leakproof-type battery, considering the location of its brains (beneath the battery), however.
My comment somewhat fits with the daily driving. I do not
neccessarily think it is a problem with the battery. Modern
cars have a larger draw on the battery when the car is not
running. Ad to that fact that many if not most of us use the
vette as a toy not a daily driver. Thus it sits and the battery
discharges probably causing the early battery failures. I suspect
daily driving or a battery tender results in loinger battery life on these cars.
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Changed the leaking piece of crap AC DElco in my wife's Yukon last night (barely two yrs. old). After I bought my 'Vette, changed dead battery after three months of ownership. Had a 1998 Pontiac GTP with a leaking battery a couple of years ago. I'm not sure, but I think I might have stumbled upon a pattern here!!!

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Originally Posted by TOOGECKO
I'm not sure, but I think I might have stumbled upon a pattern here!!!
I gotta agree with you TOOGECKO. I've seen plenty of posts about vette batteries dying. I've owned seven other cars besides the vette, and my wife has had five. Only two of those twelve were GM products, and guess which one had the only battery that ever died on me... yep, one of the two GM products, but at least it lasted six years before dying.
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
I don't think it's an issue about a "decent" battery - it's more that the battery is the standard off the shelf AC Delco battery that's used in millions of other cars.
I don't understand what you're trying to say blacksedan87. Are you saying that Chevy is using a decent battery, but just not one that's up to the heavy demands put on it by the Vette? If that's the case, then my point is still valid. Why does GM choose to put a battery that's not up to the task into a $50K car?
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Yello95
Don't you have 3yr/36,000 mile bumper to bumper standard warranty? Shouldn't it cover the battery?
Yello95, I read through the warranty information provided with the car, and never was able to discern if the battery is covered by the 3yr/36,000 mile warranty. My gut told me that if it was covered, it was probably on a prorated basis.

I decided, however, that even if it was covered, it wasn't worth it to take it to the dealership to get a new battery. They'd have just given me a replacement battery of the same kind as the original, which had just let me down. If I hadn't been lucky, and had the battery die on me at home, in my garage, it could have been a much bigger hassle. I wasn't ready to risk that kind of hassle by receiving the same crappy kind of battery. Also, I would have had to leave my car with the dealership... something I try to avoid. And even if I wanted to take that option, I would have had to wait until Monday, when the dealership service department was once again open.

So, I chose to swap the battery on my own, avoiding getting another crappy GM endorsed battery, putting my car back into service at least two day faster than would have happened by going to the dealership. All, in all, definitely worth the cost of the new battery.
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Originally Posted by C5 JET
Only two of those twelve were GM products, and guess which one had the only battery that ever died on me... yep, one of the two GM products, but at least it lasted six years before dying.
I would be happy to get six years out of any battery. That really isn't so bad, especially from a Delco!
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Originally Posted by TOOGECKO
I would be happy to get six years out of any battery. That really isn't so bad, especially from a Delco!
Your expectations are too low my friends . . . I've had two Corvettes, one a 99 A4 and my current 2000 MN6. The batteries failed on both of them within 4 years of manufacture and they were/are both used almost every day.

I have only ever had one other battery fail on me in my entire car and motorcycle owning 33 years, and that was the manufacturer's original battery on an 18 year old Citroen BX GTI I was using as a junker. Even that didn't die as horrible and as complete a death as the Corvette AC Delcos; at least I could still start and run the car after a hit with a starter/charger.

I've got an Exide Maxxima Orbital in my Corvette now, 900 CCA. I don't expect to have to buy another battery for it - period.

Upshot - as soon as you vette is out of warranty go get a decent battery!



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