Gm Did Me Wrong
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Originally Posted by bsmith
me thinks there is more to this story...
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From: middletown ny
Originally Posted by CAJUNY2KC5
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. This was his 10/21/04 post on something that seems similar....
"I have to redo the motor in my car..I thought it was # 7 but it turns out my cam bolts came out and destructed the entire engine..I am putting a forged bottom end back in the car..I want it to last..So how many have run a blown 382? I have seen question about rod length/angle that makes it seem as not good for longevity..So I want a steel crank--and mine as well stroke it so it is practical..But who knows about how long it will live--shorter lifespan than 346 or just a myth? If properly balanced-blueprinted last just as long? drawbacks?"
And now a month later GM is the bad guy??????
"I have to redo the motor in my car..I thought it was # 7 but it turns out my cam bolts came out and destructed the entire engine..I am putting a forged bottom end back in the car..I want it to last..So how many have run a blown 382? I have seen question about rod length/angle that makes it seem as not good for longevity..So I want a steel crank--and mine as well stroke it so it is practical..But who knows about how long it will live--shorter lifespan than 346 or just a myth? If properly balanced-blueprinted last just as long? drawbacks?"
And now a month later GM is the bad guy??????
Racer
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From: Canton CT
I don't know about this situation but I talked to someone who had a bone stock '03 Z06 with 2000 miles on it and lost the motor to loose cam retainer bolts. I believe there was no problem getting it fixed under warranty.
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From: Virginia
St. Jude Donor '11
Originally Posted by JDs00PewterCoupe
Sorry to hear this, but if you truly have the mods listed in your signature, then I can understand why GM said no to the warranty. It is clearly spelled out in the warranty terms that modifications are not covered. Don't blame GM for this one. Hope somehow you get your car back together, but I think it will be at your expense.
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From: JC TN
yes i am sol..actually sent the car off to have some performance upgrades, a hood and dyno tuned..no close tuner to me--like i said-thought it was something simple...they take the motor out--found ther problem and immediately took the motor to dealership--figured less time--obvious problem and quick replacement--NOT--GM rep took 1 look and said--NO WARRANTY--motor apart (for easy inspection) theres a 6500.00 lesson--will not even give me a block or heads--NOT COOL--block was never touched--i cant put anything on the outside of it that would make the cam bolts back out---there you have it--magnusson moss act--as long as the part you install does not cause the failure--it is warranty
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From: JC TN
If it was something i did--i would bite the bullet--nothing i did would cause the cam bolts to come out and it has happened on other cars..now i suppose i am suppose to take it up the rear--i dont see this as my fault, and neither does anyone else--look at the circumstances..Atleast they could give me a new block and heads
Safety Car
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From: Naples Florida
I think GM owes you nothing. Common sense tells you if you want something warrantied take it to the people providing the warranty. I know of several people that have had engines replaced at no cost.
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From: JC TN
i originally thought i popped #7, thats why it was sent off--then they found out more and why it hapened..i would have understood if sc caused it but it did not...kinda like i put a muffler on my car and the water pump burnt up HUH
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From: Jacksonville Florida
Originally Posted by C5naples
I think GM owes you nothing. Common sense tells you if you want something warrantied take it to the people providing the warranty. I know of several people that have had engines replaced at no cost.
Again, I'm sorry you've got major damage, but whether or not your modifications contributed and/or whether or not anything you did caused the damage - if you want something covered under a manufacturer's warranty - you should have taken it back to the manufacturer for coverage.
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Originally Posted by GrayC5
Sorry to hear about your bad luck, but have you read the terms of your GM warranty? Looks like you might not have much recourse unless the repair facility you shipped the car to is an authorized GM dealer. Also, from what I've seen, the GM warranty is not that much different from the warranties of other car manufacturers. However, I do wish you the best of luck in getting everything resolved to your satisfaction.
Last edited by Fastgenious; Dec 1, 2004 at 10:16 AM.
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From: So. California
Originally Posted by IllinoisCorvette
Its GMs Problem if the motor is run as stock. Heavily modified its your bill im afraid. This reminds me of someone in the C6 section that is taking his C6 apart bit by bit to find a rattle instead of taking it to the Dealer, its just nonsense if the car is under warranty. Someone here in Chicago had an aftermarket air intake installed, and in a heavy rain the motor sucked water in and blew the motor. GM also nixed that claim because aftermarket parts were installed.
Bottomline here! You play. You pay...
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Originally Posted by vetteturbo
yes i am sol..actually sent the car off to have some performance upgrades, a hood and dyno tuned..no close tuner to me--like i said-thought it was something simple...they take the motor out--found ther problem and immediately took the motor to dealership--figured less time--obvious problem and quick replacement--NOT--GM rep took 1 look and said--NO WARRANTY--motor apart (for easy inspection) theres a 6500.00 lesson--will not even give me a block or heads--NOT COOL--block was never touched--i cant put anything on the outside of it that would make the cam bolts back out---there you have it--magnusson moss act--as long as the part you install does not cause the failure--it is warranty
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From: Deptford, NJ
I feel your pain. This summer I decided to supercharge my 2001 Corvette, the stock LS1 engine only had 2,700 miles on it. Same problem, loose cam bolts and a blown bottom end as a result. I can understand why GM will not back us up (we modified the cars), but I can tell you this, I am hearing more and more folks blowing stock and modified engines due to this loose cam bolt problem.
Best of luck and try to look on the bright side, you can now build a killer forged motor and turn up the boost
Best of luck and try to look on the bright side, you can now build a killer forged motor and turn up the boost
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From: Machine Silver Z06 The Golden State......... Bay Area
St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by m1k3
He must live in the same area as the dude whose column locked up and so he floored it and wrecked his car. 
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From: Temecula Ca
Hate to say it but you gave them the excuse. 
Not sure I understand why you would have other than a certified dealer work on your ride that is still under factory warranty. 
There are very few places in the US where there is not a dealer within a 200 mile radius, and this is one of the reasons I pay thru the nose for AA+ towing service.
You made a bad choice, don’t blame GM.
Not sure I understand why you would have other than a certified dealer work on your ride that is still under factory warranty. There are very few places in the US where there is not a dealer within a 200 mile radius, and this is one of the reasons I pay thru the nose for AA+ towing service.You made a bad choice, don’t blame GM.
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From: Temecula Ca
Originally Posted by vetteturbo
yes i am sol..actually sent the car off to have some performance upgrades, a hood and dyno tuned..no close tuner to me--like i said-thought it was something simple...they take the motor out--found ther problem and immediately took the motor to dealership--figured less time--obvious problem and quick replacement--NOT--GM rep took 1 look and said--NO WARRANTY--motor apart (for easy inspection) theres a 6500.00 lesson--will not even give me a block or heads--NOT COOL--block was never touched--i cant put anything on the outside of it that would make the cam bolts back out---there you have it--magnusson moss act--as long as the part you install does not cause the failure--it is warranty
Guess I'm slow. You say you sent the car out for upgrades but shipped it 1100 miles?
Then you are implying that it was running correct? If it was running then why are you blaming the dealer? Blame the shop where it blew, and expect them to fix it. 