Gm Did Me Wrong
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From: JC TN
Gm Did Me Wrong
I SENT MY 03 ZO6 TO BE REPAIRED, DONT TRUST MY LOCAL DEALER SO SENT THE CAR 1100 MILES AWAY..UPON INSPECTING, THEY FOUND THE CAM BOLTS--1 BACKED OUT, THE OTHER BROKE IN HALF, CAUSING THE TIMING CHAIN TO DROP--RESULTING IN BUSTED HEADS, BUSTED BLOCK, EVERY PISTON HIT EVERY VALVE DESTROYING MOTOR. THEY SAID THIS WAS NOT MY FAULT-IT WAS A PROBLEN FROM GM SO THEY TOOK THE MOTOR TO THE DEALERSHIP HEADS OFF, TIMING COVER OFF SO THEY COULD SEE THE OBVIOUS PROBLEM-AND NOT FROM SOMETHING I DID..GM FINALLY COMES TO LOOK AT IT AND IMMEDIATELY WALKS OUT SAYING NOT COVERING IT BECAUSE THE DEALER DID NOT REMOVE THE ENGINE--A VERY GOOD ASE CERTIFIED AND BEYOND DID. THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE FASTER TO GET A REPLACEMENT ENGINE..CAR IS UNDER WARRANTY---WHAT IF I HAD IT SOMEWHERE THERE WAS NOT A DEALERSHIP AND IT HAPPENED--SAME ROUTE, A CERTIFIED GROUP TAKES THE MOTOR OUT--GETS ANOTHER AND I SEND THE BILL IN FOR REIMBURSEMENT? GM DID ME WRONG AND WILL NOT EVEN HELP ME WITH A NEW BLOCK OR HEADS :bmad: :mah:
I HAVE BOUGHT FROM GM SEVERAL NEW CARS IN THE PAST 12 YEARS--NO MORE FOR ME.. VERY FRUSTRATED--THIS WAS A GM PROBLEM- NOT A OUT OF MY POCKET PROBLEM--ENGINE WAS NEVER OPENED UP BEFORE THIS. ANY IDEAS? sorry for yelling.Dave
I HAVE BOUGHT FROM GM SEVERAL NEW CARS IN THE PAST 12 YEARS--NO MORE FOR ME.. VERY FRUSTRATED--THIS WAS A GM PROBLEM- NOT A OUT OF MY POCKET PROBLEM--ENGINE WAS NEVER OPENED UP BEFORE THIS. ANY IDEAS? sorry for yelling.Dave
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Generally I believe GM has to do the work for the warranty to apply. That's probably not uncommon for all car manufacturers. I'm sure that simply handing them busted parts will void every warranty out there.
My own dealer has told me about people heavily modifying their engines, blowing them up in races then swapping back to stock parts to try to enforce the warranty.
I'm sorry you've had such a problem, but it seems like there would have been one dealership within 1,100 miles you could have used to at least have the engine checked out.
My own dealer has told me about people heavily modifying their engines, blowing them up in races then swapping back to stock parts to try to enforce the warranty.
I'm sorry you've had such a problem, but it seems like there would have been one dealership within 1,100 miles you could have used to at least have the engine checked out.
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Should have put it back together & had the dealer take i apart...I'd fight it...I'm having them warranty shocks that I bought aftermarket for my Duramax. The tech said there was nothing wrong with them...I bought new ones elsewhere...took the worn out chit back to the dealer & made a seen...they are reimbursing me. Good luck. 
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You didn't check BEFORE pulling the engine? Was that to get around what your name implies, i.e. you've turboed the thing? If correct, of course they'd never have warranteed it anyway. High-performance turns money into noise. Pull out the checkbook!
Lager99: The cost difference between shocks and an engine is how much?
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Originally Posted by vetteturbo
I SENT MY 03 ZO6 TO BE REPAIRED, DONT TRUST MY LOCAL DEALER SO SENT THE CAR 1100 MILES AWAY..UPON INSPECTING, THEY FOUND THE CAM BOLTS--1 BACKED OUT, THE OTHER BROKE IN HALF, CAUSING THE TIMING CHAIN TO DROP--RESULTING IN BUSTED HEADS, BUSTED BLOCK, EVERY PISTON HIT EVERY VALVE DESTROYING MOTOR. THEY SAID THIS WAS NOT MY FAULT-IT WAS A PROBLEN FROM GM SO THEY TOOK THE MOTOR TO THE DEALERSHIP HEADS OFF, TIMING COVER OFF SO THEY COULD SEE THE OBVIOUS PROBLEM-AND NOT FROM SOMETHING I DID..GM FINALLY COMES TO LOOK AT IT AND IMMEDIATELY WALKS OUT SAYING NOT COVERING IT BECAUSE THE DEALER DID NOT REMOVE THE ENGINE--A VERY GOOD ASE CERTIFIED AND BEYOND DID. THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE FASTER TO GET A REPLACEMENT ENGINE..CAR IS UNDER WARRANTY---WHAT IF I HAD IT SOMEWHERE THERE WAS NOT A DEALERSHIP AND IT HAPPENED--SAME ROUTE, A CERTIFIED GROUP TAKES THE MOTOR OUT--GETS ANOTHER AND I SEND THE BILL IN FOR REIMBURSEMENT? GM DID ME WRONG AND WILL NOT EVEN HELP ME WITH A NEW BLOCK OR HEADS :bmad: :mah:
I HAVE BOUGHT FROM GM SEVERAL NEW CARS IN THE PAST 12 YEARS--NO MORE FOR ME.. VERY FRUSTRATED--THIS WAS A GM PROBLEM- NOT A OUT OF MY POCKET PROBLEM--ENGINE WAS NEVER OPENED UP BEFORE THIS. ANY IDEAS? sorry for yelling.Dave
I HAVE BOUGHT FROM GM SEVERAL NEW CARS IN THE PAST 12 YEARS--NO MORE FOR ME.. VERY FRUSTRATED--THIS WAS A GM PROBLEM- NOT A OUT OF MY POCKET PROBLEM--ENGINE WAS NEVER OPENED UP BEFORE THIS. ANY IDEAS? sorry for yelling.Dave
I'm sorry for your loss....BUT, you have a car that won't run and with
your motor "broken," and you pay to ship it 1100 miles just because
you don't trust your local dealer?
What were you afraid of?
What experience did you have with them that would make you do this?
All this talk about dealers on the Forum makes people paranoid.
It's irrational behaviour.
So what's the cost to you after the shipping, the aggravation
and now the possibility of you paying for a new motor?
Maybe you'll have to lawyer up and go through that process.
And at what cost?
You showed them.
...George
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck, but have you read the terms of your GM warranty? Looks like you might not have much recourse unless the repair facility you shipped the car to is an authorized GM dealer. Also, from what I've seen, the GM warranty is not that much different from the warranties of other car manufacturers. However, I do wish you the best of luck in getting everything resolved to your satisfaction.
Last edited by GrayC5; Nov 30, 2004 at 04:21 PM.
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Originally Posted by Avanti
You didn't check BEFORE pulling the engine? Was that to get around what your name implies, i.e. you've turboed the thing? If correct, of course they'd never have warranteed it anyway.
To me this is why they will not warranty the engine.
tom...
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Originally Posted by bsmith
me thinks there is more to this story..."I have to redo the motor in my car..I thought it was # 7 but it turns out my cam bolts came out and destructed the entire engine..I am putting a forged bottom end back in the car..I want it to last..So how many have run a blown 382? I have seen question about rod length/angle that makes it seem as not good for longevity..So I want a steel crank--and mine as well stroke it so it is practical..But who knows about how long it will live--shorter lifespan than 346 or just a myth? If properly balanced-blueprinted last just as long? drawbacks?"
And now a month later GM is the bad guy??????
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Originally Posted by Avanti
You didn't check BEFORE pulling the engine? Was that to get around what your name implies, i.e. you've turboed the thing? If correct, of course they'd never have warranteed it anyway. High-performance turns money into noise. Pull out the checkbook!
Lager99: The cost difference between shocks and an engine is how much?
I've got to agree. You state yourself that your vehicle has: 2003 EB Z06 A&A Ati Procharger/single frontmount intercooler 7 or 10 lbs/tpis headers/random tech xpipe,cats over 500rwhp THANK YOU ANDY!!!!!
Have you notified Andy! He should of advised you to remove the Procharger, bringing the car back to stock and take it to a dealer.
Sorry to hear about your misfortune, but some times we just look for trouble.
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Originally Posted by Tom73
From the Public Profile: 2003 EB Z06 A&A Ati Procharger/single frontmount intercooler 7 or 10 lbs/tpis headers/random tech xpipe,cats over 500rwhp
To me this is why they will not warranty the engine.
tom...
To me this is why they will not warranty the engine.
tom...
might explain why he had to ship the car 1100 miles to get it worked on. Had to make sure the car wasnt recognized by anyone at the local dealers?????
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Originally Posted by GrayC5
Sorry to hear about your bad luck, but have you read the terms of your GM warranty? Looks like you might not have much recourse unless the repair facility you shipped the car to is an authorized GM dealer. Also, from what I've seen, the GM warranty is not that much different from the warranties of other car manufacturers. However, I do wish you the best of luck in getting everything resolved to your satisfaction.
Originally Posted by Tom73
From the Public Profile: 2003 EB Z06 A&A Ati Procharger/single frontmount intercooler 7 or 10 lbs/tpis headers/random tech xpipe,cats over 500rwhp
To me this is why they will not warranty the engine
To me this is why they will not warranty the engine
I have been very happy with the reliability of my Z and even though my dealer isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, I still take it to them for warranty work. What is the worst case? They break something else and they have to pay for it.
Good Luck!
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Its GMs Problem if the motor is run as stock. Heavily modified its your bill im afraid. This reminds me of someone in the C6 section that is taking his C6 apart bit by bit to find a rattle instead of taking it to the Dealer, its just nonsense if the car is under warranty. Someone here in Chicago had an aftermarket air intake installed, and in a heavy rain the motor sucked water in and blew the motor. GM also nixed that claim because aftermarket parts were installed.
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Sorry to hear this, but if you truly have the mods listed in your signature, then I can understand why GM said no to the warranty. It is clearly spelled out in the warranty terms that modifications are not covered. Don't blame GM for this one. Hope somehow you get your car back together, but I think it will be at your expense.
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Looks like this is going to have to come out of your own pocket Dave. No use even trying to fight GM if your car was SC'd. Be better off in putting a 383 or something like that in the car.
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From: rancho santa margarita, ca
Originally Posted by bsmith
saw that...
might explain why he had to ship the car 1100 miles to get it worked on. Had to make sure the car wasnt recognized by anyone at the local dealers?????
might explain why he had to ship the car 1100 miles to get it worked on. Had to make sure the car wasnt recognized by anyone at the local dealers?????
