Pull key, wait 10 seconds......
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Pull key, wait 10 seconds......
Just a heads-up for those of you with the column lock bypass:
I stopped at the ATM last week and since my son was in the C5, I was going to leave the key in the ignition. However, when I opened the door, the chime kicked in and I thought I'd try something I used to do in my older cars. I pulled the key out of the ignition and reinserted it. The chimes still sung, so I left the key in and shut the door.
When I returned, I started the car, started backing out, and then the engine died. I looked at the D.I.C. and saw "Pull key, wait 10 seconds", which is the same message you normally see before seeing "Service column lock". Totally puzzled (since I installed the CLB many months ago), I pulled the key, waited 10 seconds, started the car and drove off. The only thing I can think of is that the combination of removing and reinserting the key within a short period of time somehow confused the ignition circuit.
So, if this happens to you after performing the sequence mentioned above, fear not - it's just a glitch.
I stopped at the ATM last week and since my son was in the C5, I was going to leave the key in the ignition. However, when I opened the door, the chime kicked in and I thought I'd try something I used to do in my older cars. I pulled the key out of the ignition and reinserted it. The chimes still sung, so I left the key in and shut the door.
When I returned, I started the car, started backing out, and then the engine died. I looked at the D.I.C. and saw "Pull key, wait 10 seconds", which is the same message you normally see before seeing "Service column lock". Totally puzzled (since I installed the CLB many months ago), I pulled the key, waited 10 seconds, started the car and drove off. The only thing I can think of is that the combination of removing and reinserting the key within a short period of time somehow confused the ignition circuit.
So, if this happens to you after performing the sequence mentioned above, fear not - it's just a glitch.
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Happened to me too
Same thing happened to me 2 weeks after column lock recall was done on my 02 6 speed.
Stopped engine, pulled key, reinserted key (wife stayed in car), got out, came back, started engine attempted to drive off, car dies, flashes "pull key wait 10 seconds".
Started back up scratching head, drove off wondering.
To my knowledge there is not an aftermarket cloumn lock bypass done to it, but I bought used so I'm not sure.
Interesting anyway, glad to hear mine wasn't the only one... I think.
Curious to know if anyone else has seen this or has more info on it.
Stopped engine, pulled key, reinserted key (wife stayed in car), got out, came back, started engine attempted to drive off, car dies, flashes "pull key wait 10 seconds".
Started back up scratching head, drove off wondering.
To my knowledge there is not an aftermarket cloumn lock bypass done to it, but I bought used so I'm not sure.
Interesting anyway, glad to hear mine wasn't the only one... I think.
Curious to know if anyone else has seen this or has more info on it.
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I got in my car a few days ago and as I was backing out of my garage, the engine died and and I got the "Pull key, wait 10 seconds" message.
Guess what, Corvette, I bypassed you with the CLB.
I laughed at my car's feeble attempt at stranding me as I restarted it, and drove away.
Guess what, Corvette, I bypassed you with the CLB.
I laughed at my car's feeble attempt at stranding me as I restarted it, and drove away.
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Originally Posted by Dave68
The only thing I can think of is that the combination of removing and reinserting the key within a short period of time somehow confused the ignition circuit.
The "pull key" message is not always indicative of a column lock problem.
This message can happen for many reasons...basically, anytime the BCM "gets confused" during startup, it will happen. Some of the common causes (and I'm sure there's more) are:
The quick key out/in/restart will do it every time.
A dirty key resistor pellet will cause it.
The column lock malfunctioning can also cause it.
Because the latter of the above cases has proven to be very common...all too often, people tend to automatically equate this error message to the column lock, and that's not always the case.
Last edited by Y2Kvert4me; Jan 8, 2005 at 12:31 AM.
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Originally Posted by BrightRed C5 SWFL
Thanks for the heads up. Did you have the recall done for your car to die like that?
That's exactly it.
The "pull key" message is not always indicative of a column lock problem.
This message can happen for many reasons...basically, anytime the BCM "gets confused" during startup, it will happen. Some of the common causes (and I'm sure there's more) are:
The quick key out/in/restart will do it every time.
A dirty key resistor pellet will cause it.
The column lock malfunctioning can also cause it.
Because the latter of the above cases has proven to be very common...all too often, people tend to automatically equate this error message to the column lock, and that's not always the case.
The "pull key" message is not always indicative of a column lock problem.
This message can happen for many reasons...basically, anytime the BCM "gets confused" during startup, it will happen. Some of the common causes (and I'm sure there's more) are:
The quick key out/in/restart will do it every time.
A dirty key resistor pellet will cause it.
The column lock malfunctioning can also cause it.
Because the latter of the above cases has proven to be very common...all too often, people tend to automatically equate this error message to the column lock, and that's not always the case.
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I have been playing with this pull key thing ever since dealer did the K harness thing. I did subsequently (whatta word!) disconnect the actuator portion of the harness. Vette is an A4. Cleaned the pellet, etc. and still get this message sporadically...
It has become a game to me.. Seems to happen on first key insert after car has sat for a day. Doesn't seem to come up on subsequent insertions on the same day. I appear to have some success by pushing the key firmly inward upon insertion.
As I say, it's just plain goofy and has become a game to me. My only other options are dealer (NOT!) or drive myself nuts. (already there)
Once upon a time...............
It has become a game to me.. Seems to happen on first key insert after car has sat for a day. Doesn't seem to come up on subsequent insertions on the same day. I appear to have some success by pushing the key firmly inward upon insertion.
As I say, it's just plain goofy and has become a game to me. My only other options are dealer (NOT!) or drive myself nuts. (already there)
Once upon a time...............
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Actually, the system is very powerful. When sensing the CLB impedance, the computer reroutes the Column Lock ciurcuit and bypasses the lock connector thus reinstalling the column lock.
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Originally Posted by lemansbleu2004
Actually, the system is very powerful. When sensing the CLB impedance, the computer reroutes the Column Lock ciurcuit and bypasses the lock connector thus reinstalling the column lock.
In otherwords, on my A4 for example no concern re: column actually locking but the pull key deal will be a "live with" thing???????
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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
That's exactly it.
The "pull key" message is not always indicative of a column lock problem.
This message can happen for many reasons...basically, anytime the BCM "gets confused" during startup, it will happen. Some of the common causes (and I'm sure there's more) are:
The quick key out/in/restart will do it every time.
A dirty key resistor pellet will cause it.
The column lock malfunctioning can also cause it.
The "pull key" message is not always indicative of a column lock problem.
This message can happen for many reasons...basically, anytime the BCM "gets confused" during startup, it will happen. Some of the common causes (and I'm sure there's more) are:
The quick key out/in/restart will do it every time.
A dirty key resistor pellet will cause it.
The column lock malfunctioning can also cause it.
I installed the CLB last summer, have a 2001 MN6 and I have seen the messages on a few occasions, mostly after changing/connecting the battery or working on my car, where I probably was performing quick in/out/etc. My heart skips a beat whenever I see the message, but I know it is temporary since the CLB is in and functioning. BTW, GM has not sent me recall info...yet.Regards,
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Thanks for the heads-up. Sounds like a glitch to me too.
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Originally Posted by lemansbleu2004
Actually, the system is very powerful. When sensing the CLB impedance, the computer reroutes the Column Lock ciurcuit and bypasses the lock connector thus reinstalling the column lock.
In otherwords, on my A4 for example no concern re: column actually locking but the pull key deal will be a "live with" thing???????
I have been playing with this pull key thing ever since dealer did the K harness thing. I did subsequently (whatta word!) disconnect the actuator portion of the harness. Vette is an A4. Cleaned the pellet, etc. and still get this message sporadically...
It has become a game to me.. Seems to happen on first key insert after car has sat for a day. Doesn't seem to come up on subsequent insertions on the same day. I appear to have some success by pushing the key firmly inward upon insertion.
As I say, it's just plain goofy and has become a game to me. My only other options are dealer (NOT!) or drive myself nuts. (already there)
Once upon a time...............
It has become a game to me.. Seems to happen on first key insert after car has sat for a day. Doesn't seem to come up on subsequent insertions on the same day. I appear to have some success by pushing the key firmly inward upon insertion.
As I say, it's just plain goofy and has become a game to me. My only other options are dealer (NOT!) or drive myself nuts. (already there)
Once upon a time...............
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Originally Posted by Dave68
The only thing I can think of is that the combination of removing and reinserting the key within a short period of time somehow confused the ignition circuit.
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Originally Posted by mrm1149
I have been playing with this pull key thing ever since dealer did the K harness thing. I did subsequently (whatta word!) disconnect the actuator portion of the harness. Vette is an A4. Cleaned the pellet, etc. and still get this message sporadically...
It has become a game to me.. Seems to happen on first key insert after car has sat for a day. Doesn't seem to come up on subsequent insertions on the same day. I appear to have some success by pushing the key firmly inward upon insertion.
As I say, it's just plain goofy and has become a game to me. My only other options are dealer (NOT!) or drive myself nuts. (already there)
Once upon a time...............
It has become a game to me.. Seems to happen on first key insert after car has sat for a day. Doesn't seem to come up on subsequent insertions on the same day. I appear to have some success by pushing the key firmly inward upon insertion.
As I say, it's just plain goofy and has become a game to me. My only other options are dealer (NOT!) or drive myself nuts. (already there)
Once upon a time...............
Mark
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Originally Posted by MyBlueC5
It's funny, so many people start having this problem AFTER they get the column lock done. I had never seen that message until I had the recall done and in the last 2 months, I'll bet I've had it come up a dozen times. Damn, I wish I had never done the recall.
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Mark, I couldn't agree more. Obviously some small glitch causing this that GM apparently chooses to ignore. As I stated above, seems like after the initial "pull key" on any given day, it tends not to repeat the scenario that same day. Or not....(now that's definitive) the game goes on................
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Originally Posted by Dave68
Just a heads-up for those of you with the column lock bypass:
I stopped at the ATM last week and since my son was in the C5, I was going to leave the key in the ignition. However, when I opened the door, the chime kicked in and I thought I'd try something I used to do in my older cars. I pulled the key out of the ignition and reinserted it. The chimes still sung, so I left the key in and shut the door.
When I returned, I started the car, started backing out, and then the engine died. I looked at the D.I.C. and saw "Pull key, wait 10 seconds", which is the same message you normally see before seeing "Service column lock". Totally puzzled (since I installed the CLB many months ago), I pulled the key, waited 10 seconds, started the car and drove off. The only thing I can think of is that the combination of removing and reinserting the key within a short period of time somehow confused the ignition circuit.
So, if this happens to you after performing the sequence mentioned above, fear not - it's just a glitch.
I stopped at the ATM last week and since my son was in the C5, I was going to leave the key in the ignition. However, when I opened the door, the chime kicked in and I thought I'd try something I used to do in my older cars. I pulled the key out of the ignition and reinserted it. The chimes still sung, so I left the key in and shut the door.
When I returned, I started the car, started backing out, and then the engine died. I looked at the D.I.C. and saw "Pull key, wait 10 seconds", which is the same message you normally see before seeing "Service column lock". Totally puzzled (since I installed the CLB many months ago), I pulled the key, waited 10 seconds, started the car and drove off. The only thing I can think of is that the combination of removing and reinserting the key within a short period of time somehow confused the ignition circuit.
So, if this happens to you after performing the sequence mentioned above, fear not - it's just a glitch.
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Originally Posted by JC in XTC5
And this is related to the CLB because??? It isn't. As others already stated, quickly removing and reinserting the key is your answer.
I think that what he is saying is the pull key thing started after the clb was done with the K harness. The pull key msg.in my case never came up until AFTER the K harness bipass was done.