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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffC5
Sounds to me like you might be interested in disconnecting your own speedometer.
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Now that's an idea whose time has come
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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Ha. Very funny guys. I am not a mechanic nor could i ever figure that out. But... I do want to see if this guy messed with his vette. You would want too, if you saw this car. I have decided to move on to a different car.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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Good Idea !
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 00BlackConv
I am looking at buying this guys corvette, but the car looks like it has 100,000 miles on it and the car shows 9,000 miles. Is it possible that this guy disconnected the odometer? In most cars, you can pull the dashboard fuse in the fuse box, but I don't think that is possible on vettes. Any thoughts?
If I were you,I would keep my money in my pocket and run the other way.Follow your hunch and pass on this one.Remeber,your pitching not catching.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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A Toggle switch on the Vehicle Speed Sensor will Bypass any problems such as Codes going off on the DIC (SES) and would be a clean and discreet way to hide such a Bad thing .
on an A4 ??? you'd certainly throw codes because of screwed-up shift points.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Just think I should share a little story of what happened to me recently. I am Canadian so I'm not sure how your DMV and Carfax system works so take this for what it's worth. I was looking for a Grand Prix GTP for my fiance and found one in Ottawa On, Canada. The car supposedly had 34 kms (21K miles), was a 2001 and the price was very attractive for a car with this mileage and condition.
The dealer/owner sent me a CLEAR Carfax and Carcheck for the vehicle and I went to a chevy dealer and ran the service history which came up empty (car had never been in for warranty work). Great! we settled on a price and I had planned to fly down and pick up the car ASAP.
I decided to go the MTO (Ministrty of Transportation) and purchase the Used Car Buyer Package which lists all previous owners and registers any liens against the vehicle. While going through the list of owners (6), five of whom were dealers which was fine as many cars are wholesaled out and bounced between dealers and auctions I noticed the reported mileage had changed from 88Kms to 30Kms between the second and 4rth owner. I went back in to the MTO and she didn't see how that could have happened and it could have been a mistake. I told her that three dealers wouldn't make a mistake reporting mileage and that I believed someone had tampered with the odometer.
I called the dealer where the original owner had traded the car in and they told me that the car had defiantely been traded in with 88Kms. Needless to say I never purchased the car. The bottom line for me is that I will never trust a Carfax or Carcheck (at least in Canada) as they only show what the MTO reports.
In my case the MTO obviously doesn't have a simple program which prevents the entering of a lower odometer reading than previously reported. Your best bet is to look up the service history and hopefully it will show a normal progression of odometer readings throughout the year(s).
Also, in Canada, after 2002 you have to report mileage when renewing your license plate sticker (this is done on the honor system as they do not check, only ask the owner of the vehicle). Other than that it's buyer beware and if it looks to good to be true, it probably is! BTW I have kept all info. to support these statements. Good Luck

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 97 SC Cobra
Just think I should share a little story of what happened to me recently. I am Canadian so I'm not sure how your DMV and Carfax system works so take this for what it's worth. I was looking for a Grand Prix GTP for my fiance and found one in Ottawa On, Canada. The car supposedly had 34 kms (21K miles), was a 2001 and the price was very attractive for a car with this mileage and condition. Anyhow, the dealer/owner sent me a CLEAR Carfax and Carcheck for the vehicle and I went to a chevy dealer and ran the service history which came up empty (car had never been in for warranty work). Great! we settled on a price and I had planned to fly down and pick up the car ASAP. I decided to go the MTO (Ministrty of Transportation) and purchase the Used Car Buyer Package which lists all previous owners and registers any liens against the vehicle. While going through the list of owners (6), five of whom were dealers which was fine as many cars are wholesaled out and bounced between dealers and auctions I noticed the reported mileage had changed from 88Kms to 30Kms between the second and 4rth owner. I went back in to the MTO and she didn't see how that could have happened and it could have been a mistake. I told her that three dealers wouldn't make a mistake reporting mileage and that I believed someone had tampered with the odometer. I called the dealer where the original owner had traded the car in and they told me that the car had defiantely been traded in with 88Kms. Needless to say I never purchased the car. The bottom line for me is that I will never trust a Carfax or Carcheck (at least in Canada) as they only show what the MTO reports. In my case the MTO obviously doesn't have a simple program which prevents the entering of a lower odometer reading than previously reported. Your best bet is to look up the service history and hopefully it will show a normal progression of odometer readings throughout the year(s). Also, in Canada, after 2002 you have to report mileage when renewing your license plate sticker (this is done on the honor system as they do not check, only ask the owner of the vehicle). Other than that it's buyer beware and if it looks to good to be true, it probably is! BTW I have kept all info. to support these statements. Good Luck

You lost me after the first 10 lines.....paragraphs man, paragraphs.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmvette
You lost me after the first 10 lines.....paragraphs man, paragraphs.
Cliffnotes: Looked at a GTP, ran a Carfax and it was clear, checked through some DMV type records and found that mileage was in fact altered, thus can't totally trust Carfax reports.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmvette
You lost me after the first 10 lines.....paragraphs man, paragraphs.
Sorry guys, I was typing as fast as I could and didn't realize how long it was until submitted it. The bottom line is that I see a lot of threads asking for Carfaxes done on cars buyers are thinking of purchasing. In my view at least, Carfax is useless.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Sadly enough, people will misrepresent mileage. I hope they all get caught and rot in jail.

If the car looks like it has 100k miles and is showing 9k miles, it's not worth buying at any price except for parts...not knowing the history or true mileage of a car is not cool. In this case you must assume the worst and think it has 250k miles to price it accordingly. It's really hard to screw up a car that badly in 9k miles...
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceThis
Sadly enough, people will misrepresent mileage. I hope they all get caught and rot in jail.

If the car looks like it has 100k miles and is showing 9k miles, it's not worth buying at any price except for parts...not knowing the history or true mileage of a car is not cool. In this case you must assume the worst and think it has 250k miles to price it accordingly. It's really hard to screw up a car that badly in 9k miles...

I agree... I have moved onto looking at a different car. Thanks for the comments guys. This C5 was in bad shape.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 97 SC Cobra
Sorry guys, I was typing as fast as I could and didn't realize how long it was until submitted it. The bottom line is that I see a lot of threads asking for Carfaxes done on cars buyers are thinking of purchasing. In my view at least, Carfax is useless.

that's true....it happened to one of my friends @ DEALER, and had to fight to get his money back....took about 2 months to resolve things....from that point, i myself confirmed again that dealers are bs....
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 97 SC Cobra
Sorry guys, I was typing as fast as I could and didn't realize how long it was until submitted it. The bottom line is that I see a lot of threads asking for Carfaxes done on cars buyers are thinking of purchasing. In my view at least, Carfax is useless.

Nothing to be sorry about. Absolutely nothing wrong with your post. Well written and informative. If someone needs 2 second sound bites instead of solid information that is not your problem. Too many people seem to have lost the ability to read these days. Or to spell for that matter.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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If you are truely interested in the buying a car. If it looks, and smells then it is and look eslewhere. Sounds more like you are interested in the proceedure to disconnect the miles......
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kg54trains
If you are truely interested in the buying a car. If it looks, and smells then it is and look eslewhere. Sounds more like you are interested in the proceedure to disconnect the miles......

see my comments above

That's not my style

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