Help..Questions about headers
#1
Racer
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Help..Questions about headers
I have a stock '01 C5 MN^ except for Corsa exhaust. I am considering headers and an X-pipe. Before I ask for advise on manufacturers, can you guys answer a few questions?
1) I prefer to leave the stock cats in place to avoid emmission issues.
2) I prefer to leave the stock air intake in place.
3) Assuming stock cats and intake, what king of HP gains should I expect?
4) Pros/Cons of long tube vs. shorties?
Thanks!
1) I prefer to leave the stock cats in place to avoid emmission issues.
2) I prefer to leave the stock air intake in place.
3) Assuming stock cats and intake, what king of HP gains should I expect?
4) Pros/Cons of long tube vs. shorties?
Thanks!
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An engine is an air pump.
By installing headers, you are helping the engine get rid of its spent gases. That's good. But if you restrict the air intake by keeping the stock air box, you are partially defeating the purpose of the headers.
Also, if you are going to keep the stock cats, you are also defeating any good that the headers are doing.
My guess is that you may see some increase in hp but not much.
Forget the shortie headers. Get longtubes, cold air intake, aftermarket tail section, and high flow cats (or no cats at all).
You will then see about 25-30 rwhp increase with some tuning.
By installing headers, you are helping the engine get rid of its spent gases. That's good. But if you restrict the air intake by keeping the stock air box, you are partially defeating the purpose of the headers.
Also, if you are going to keep the stock cats, you are also defeating any good that the headers are doing.
My guess is that you may see some increase in hp but not much.
Forget the shortie headers. Get longtubes, cold air intake, aftermarket tail section, and high flow cats (or no cats at all).
You will then see about 25-30 rwhp increase with some tuning.
#4
Racer
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C5freak,
Thanks for the reply. Looks like I won't do the headers since I doubt high flow cats will pass NJ emmissions testing and it looks like there's no sense in spending $1800 for headers to only see under 10HP gain.
Thanks for the reply. Looks like I won't do the headers since I doubt high flow cats will pass NJ emmissions testing and it looks like there's no sense in spending $1800 for headers to only see under 10HP gain.
#5
Team Owner
Based on what you are looking for, you may want to check out the Bellanger's. They are designed to keep the stock cats, are a Tri-Y design, make good low end power and use by a lot of autocross guys.
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Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by vettenovice
I have a stock '01 C5 MN^ except for Corsa exhaust. I am considering headers and an X-pipe. Before I ask for advise on manufacturers, can you guys answer a few questions?
1) I prefer to leave the stock cats in place to avoid emmission issues.
2) I prefer to leave the stock air intake in place.
3) Assuming stock cats and intake, what king of HP gains should I expect?
4) Pros/Cons of long tube vs. shorties?
Thanks!
1) I prefer to leave the stock cats in place to avoid emmission issues.
2) I prefer to leave the stock air intake in place.
3) Assuming stock cats and intake, what king of HP gains should I expect?
4) Pros/Cons of long tube vs. shorties?
Thanks!
Buy some reasonable headers, you'll be happy
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I just added Bassani 1 3/4 LT headers and hi flo cats. Before and after dyno shows 10 rwhp gain w/o tune. Not the biggest bang for your hp buck, but the sound makes up for it, it's awesome. I'll go back for a tune after intake mods.