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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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YUKMAK...YES, you CAN have the fuel shut off disabled in your PCM once and for all. I sent my pcm to Chuck at Corvettes of Westchester (a vendor on this site) and he disabled the column lock feature so that whenever I get a service column lock message, I just hit reset to clear the message, BUT the car still drives. This is because it no longer thinks it has an electronic column lock....the best money I ever spent on my Vette. I drive everywhere and never worry about being stranded anymore. I've had my share of hours waiting to drive home after a message problem. Any questions, send me a pm or email me at thorn92@yahoo.com.

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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Ok, I got the CLB today, installed it in about 10 minutes, and problem solved!

I was thinking about getting the PCM reprogrammed anyway, just in case my CLB ever fails. Some posts back I read that if you have the fuel cutoff disabled for the column lock, that it also disables your rev limiter fuel cutoff??? Sounds somewhat dubious to me, if they tied the programming of those two things together the programmer needs to be fired, but anyone know if this is fact or fiction?

Another thing that might be useful for folks with my exact problem and car... one of the things I was not able to figure out from reading the posts was whether or not the CLB would work once you did have an error message. There were many posts stating that you have to get the CLB before you get a problem, but they were not clear which problem they mean. What I concluded was, if you have a MN6, and if you had the recall done and had the locking plate removed, and then your locking motor decided to quit working or quit sending the correct signal back to the BCM, causing the fuel cutoff issue (but no locked column because you don't have a locking plate anymore), then installing a CLB will work for you. You can even skip the step of using the cigarette lighter plug to unlock the column because it doesn't matter anymore, but I did it anyway, it took an extra 10 seconds. If you did not have the recall done to where your locking plate is removed and your column is permanently locked, you would have to unlock it somehow before the CLB will work for you. In another thread someone mentioned that they basically broke open the lock and removed the pin as part of the CLB installation. Automatics are a different story I think, it seems for the recall they do something different than for the sticks.

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YUKMAK...YES, you CAN have the fuel shut off disabled in your PCM once and for all. I sent my pcm to Chuck at Corvettes of Westchester (a vendor on this site) and he disabled the column lock feature so that whenever I get a service column lock message, I just hit reset to clear the message, BUT the car still drives. This is because it no longer thinks it has an electronic column lock....the best money I ever spent on my Vette. I drive everywhere and never worry about being stranded anymore. I've had my share of hours waiting to drive home after a message problem. Any questions, send me a pm or email me at thorn92@yahoo.com.
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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ok so my father's 2000 convertible had the recall done in 2004. This year what getting the car out of storage, the column message appeared. Sent the car to the dealer and they claim the lock motor is dead and that it will be almost $1000.00 to fix.

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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Find a new dealer.Worth the drive.
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I have just read about 10 pages of this forum and am now more confused than ever....here is what I incorrectly posted on the other locked column thread....

My 97 that I've owned for a year, did the column lock thing back in the beginning of March this year. Dealer played dumb, so I checked the forum and found out about the recall, called them back and had it fixed at no charge. I have no idea what they did. (BTW, the tow truck driver pulled my battery and reset the system, releasing the lock so I was able to drive it to the dealer, saving a hefty trailering charge.)

Anyway, yesterday got the dreaded "pull key wait 10 seconds message" which eventually fixed itself after three tries. Called service guy and he said, hmmm, don't know what could cause that. Now I'm worried to take it back to them since they don't seem to know what's causing it. I'm a non-mechanically minded girl and mechanics see dollar signs when I pull up. I want to be somewhat educated when I call them back. Thanks for any advice. ...................

So there's my story, again, if someone could give me some clearcut details to give the service guy, it would help. Me personally dealing with fuses and K things and other technical stuff is not an option, unfortunately. Again, thanks for your help.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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Order a CLB from one of the venders on here and find a new dealer.
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ok so my father's 2000 convertible had the recall done in 2004. This year what getting the car out of storage, the column message appeared. Sent the car to the dealer and they claim the lock motor is dead and that it will be almost $1000.00 to fix.

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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by yukmak
Ok, I got the CLB today, installed it in about 10 minutes, and problem solved!

I was thinking about getting the PCM reprogrammed anyway, just in case my CLB ever fails. Some posts back I read that if you have the fuel cutoff disabled for the column lock, that it also disables your rev limiter fuel cutoff??? Sounds somewhat dubious to me, if they tied the programming of those two things together the programmer needs to be fired, but anyone know if this is fact or fiction?

Another thing that might be useful for folks with my exact problem and car... one of the things I was not able to figure out from reading the posts was whether or not the CLB would work once you did have an error message. There were many posts stating that you have to get the CLB before you get a problem, but they were not clear which problem they mean. What I concluded was, if you have a MN6, and if you had the recall done and had the locking plate removed, and then your locking motor decided to quit working or quit sending the correct signal back to the BCM, causing the fuel cutoff issue (but no locked column because you don't have a locking plate anymore), then installing a CLB will work for you. You can even skip the step of using the cigarette lighter plug to unlock the column because it doesn't matter anymore, but I did it anyway, it took an extra 10 seconds. If you did not have the recall done to where your locking plate is removed and your column is permanently locked, you would have to unlock it somehow before the CLB will work for you. In another thread someone mentioned that they basically broke open the lock and removed the pin as part of the CLB installation. Automatics are a different story I think, it seems for the recall they do something different than for the sticks.
Thanks for the information. I just started having the same issues you had and ordered a CLB today. I tired cleaning both keys and that didn't work. I did the pull fuse 25 reset and nothing.

My dealer did my recall back in 2006. I didn't really want to but figure it wouldn't hurt since I was there for something else. I dont' have the lock plate anymore. They didn't touch my programming since my tech though I might have a non-stock tune.

So, I busted out my HPTuner today and downloaded version 2.2 after doing some reading. I was running 1.7, which doesn't have the column lock option. I found the "Fail FuelCut VSS" set for 2 mph like other have mentioned. I bumped it to the max, which is 256 mph and also set the column lock to "Not Fitted". At least, I can drive the car now faster then 2 mph . Now, I'm hoping the CLB will get rid of the "Service column lock" and "Pull key and wait 10 seconds" problem.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by John Galt
I went down to Orange County Corvette's and had them set the column lock to "Not Fitted" and disable the fuel cutoff with HP Tuners. Now since the column lock is gone and the fuel will not be cutoff, I finally have a conclusive solution.

Is there any reason for me to get a CLB at this point?
Do anyone know can that be done with Efilive?
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Another story on the dreaded "service column lock"...it took me some reading and trouble shooting to fix it, and hopefully my story will help someone...here goes:

1. I bought my 2001 M6 in late 2006 at a Nissan dealer (he took it on trade)...great car in great shape with really low mileage. I had all the records (so I thought), and didn't know of any issues.

2. About a year ago, my car started and the column stayed locked (with no message) -- I was able to get it to unlock with the "tug and pull" method on the wheel. After I got home, I did some light reading here and decided to get a CLB. I installed it, and thought all was well, as the column lock no longer engaged.

3. Recently, I had needed an oil change for about a week (and had an oil change plan that came with the car from the dealer), but had been swamped all week with work, getting ready to deploy, and planning my son's Eagle ceremony (side note: real proud of the boy). Anyway, on Friday I finally found a spare hour, and ran down to get the oil change...they got it right in and made sure I had the right oil, etc. It was taking a while, and I saw my technician keep going back and fourth talking to the advisor, so I went to inquire. He said when he pulled it off the lift, it died and said "service column lock." I thought I was smart, and could make it work...even disconnected my CLB, but no dice. UGGGHH...didn't need this. Well my advisor was a former Chevy guy and was able to get me a complete report on my car and the recall...turns out it had been done on my car in spring 06 (version C -- important note later).
4. I called the dealership who did the work and explained the issue, and he said it was a sensor that went bad, and he was a vette guy, and had seen it before. He said there are only 3 left in the country, and it cost $800...WTFO??? Anyway, figured him to be an idiot, but he also stated once the recall is already done, GM won't do any more for it, and I had to pay (even if the recall was not done right). He said tow it in, and they would look at it. Well, I was bingo on time, so the Nissan dealer let me just park it there overnight.

5. The next morning, I had a couple hours before the ceremony, and did some research on this thread. I didn't read too far in (about 8 pages), and then skipped to the end. According to my reading, the recall only reprogrammed my computer (01 M6), and nothing else was done. I had concluded it may be a quick fix to"resync" the BCM by pulling fuses. My son and I went up and tried every trick I had found...pulling fuse 25, fuse 23 (heck, I pulled all the BCM fuses). Did it for 10 secs, and left them out for 10 minutes while we went and got Starbucks...no dice. I even reinstalled the CLB using the original procedures...still nothing. Gave up and went on to enjoy the rest of the day with my son's accomplishment.

6. So today of course...more research. I finally realized, my early reading were of posts prior to Feb 06 when version C of the recall came out requiring the dealer to install the K harness on ALL manuals. Then I read there were several of those harness which had failed, and many people had just taken them out of the loop. So....I hauled a$$ up and did that very thing...put her back to TRUE STOCK, reset the BCM (fuse 25)....and....wait for it....BAM, BACK IN BUSINESS!

So now I am going to put my CLB in without the K harness so the lock no longer engages.

I am glad to get my car back to the house...and it is driveable -- didn't want my wife to have to deal with it while I was gone.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 04:10 AM
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UncleSam and his team At Auto Tech and Body, Pompano Beach, Florida remedied GM's nightmarish steering column lock as follows:
1- remove the steering wheel, locking plate, and the bracket that houses the locking mechanism (and the wiper motor switch).
2- Remove the locking mechanism from the housing (remove one screw and shave off the edge of the housing pressed against the locking mechanism).
3- Reinstall the empty bracket, locking plate, steering wheel...
4- the Body Control Module (BCM) expects a "Unlocked" signal from the missing locking mechanism through the green wire. The locking mechanism has (had in this case) a micro switch that connects as the locking pin reaches its Unlocked position connecting the green (BCM "Unlocked" signal) to the black wire (ground). Grounding the green wire will not work for the BCM software expects a ground signal from the green wire as the ignition switch reaches position 1 (Accessories).
5- Install a simple four-wire relay as follows: the two solenoid (skinny wires that create a magnetic field and cause the relay to click as the main contacts come together) one solenoid wire to ground, the other to a positive feed when the ignition switch is in position 1 (Accessories) and position 2 (Ignition). The main contacts wires (usually larger gauge wires) connect one to ground the other to the green BCM signal wire.
Et voila! Top down, this 98 Corvette runs well and safely in Sunny Florida.
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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What happened to the tsb for the new recall information? corvette action center took down its post, have they reneged on it or something? Eep!

Edit:Ok found it. Expired on Feb 29th? How does a recall expire? Are they still supposed to honor this? I just want a pcm reflash so I can flippin drive...sheesh.

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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by yukmak
Ok, I got the CLB today, installed it in about 10 minutes, and problem solved!
Well, the aftermarket CLB ended up fixing my problem too. GM's column lock recall stinks. I did end up removing the recall relay and used HPTuner to remove the 2 mph fuel cut off.
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Hoping this is my last post in this thread, ever, but I digress...

Took the car to the dealer yesterday, says everythings cool, they'll be happy to help me out. Service tech looks at it for about ten minutes this morning, and then I get a phone call. Apparently, there has been so much aftermarket wiring installed in my car (unbeknownst to me, there had been some major non-gm repair work done before I bought it) that the tech didn't want to mess with it and that I need to come get my car off of their property.

Well, seeing as the only way my ride has moved in about 2 months is on the back of a flatbed tow truck, I contacted my local tuner today and setup an appointment to have HP tuners remove this bull**** program. Thank you GM, my car has seen the last of a certified GM repair shop. We don't want to touch it? So much for standing behind your work, sad. And they wonder why people won't buy American.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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I am an independent auto repair shop that inherited a 00 c5 a4 vette after the local dealership had it three times to no avail. After pulling my hair out for several days and just about throwing in the towel, I gave it some more thought and plowed on through. This might be of some help to someone like myself who read 2-300 posts, installed a CLB after removing the K harness and still had the same issues (SCL, along with the remove key for 10 sec's, fuel cuts off after anything faster than a crawl, (not even 2.5 MPH) also a low oil and several low tires messages).
Here is the main part of my story.
Well the problem is solved. The DIC this morning, started spitting out more random messages that had me, again, starting to question the integrity of the BCM. Plugged the scanner in to pull the codes and got the "no communication" message. started checking fuses again and I find one blown that had nothing to do with the issues but it did allow power to go to the OBDII connector to power the scanner without it's internal battery. I had noticed earlier that the power outlet was dead which is the same fuse. Anyhow, in continuing to check the fuses noticed a fuse that wasn't seated in all the way due to the fact that it was in crooked. Well low and behold, it's the BCM2 fuse! It is clear up at the top and not one of the three that everybody says to pull to "reset" the BCM. Wish I'd remember the number but it is irrelevant. There will probably never be another vehicle that will have this or any other fuse shoved in in such a way to cause a low voltage/intermittent connection. Anyhow, I pulled it out and shoved it back in correctly and all the sporadic messages stopped but the original three (two low tires, low oil, and the SCL message was still there on the DIC. THEN I Cleared codes with the scanner (snap-on Vantage) and the SCL message disappeared and upon driving the car the fuel cut was gone! Runs great! I guess the moral of this story is to scrutinize previous work, clearing the BCM doesn't always happen by pulling the fuse? At least didn't in this case, and frequently check ALL the fuses when diagnosing PITB issues such as this one. Not only the fuses but that they are plugged in straight and all the way, and that they are in the slot at all! I've had customers (and other Tech's), take a fuse out of one hole to power another) and WALA, a new issue!!! HTH Wish I could have found this post 4 days and seven headaches ago! I greatly appreciate all the information in this group that gave me the courage to even take this issue on! Wayne
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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My 2000 C5 had the GM recall performed in June 2006. The recall removes a plate that actually locks the column. The wheel will turn after the recall without the key. BUT, it doesn't correct the automatic fuel shutoff that will still occure if the car "thinks" the steering wheel is locked even when it physically isn't. I got the dreaded message last weekend and the car would start but the automatic fuel cutoff kicked in when I tried to move. After a $95 diagnostic by the dealer they wanted to replace some of the parts that were replaced on the recall. It's like a recall on the recall except they wanted me to spend $450 for them to do it. I told them no-way, told them to go back to GM for a no cost solution. The car at this point had recovered on it's on (strange)and was drivable. So I went over to a local corvette racing center and the tech says, "got 30 seconds? I'll tune out that fuel shut off. In fact I do that on all the vettes I work on." Presto, nightmare over. So my question is was doesn't GM just do that and quit dickin' everyone around?
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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Im ready to burn my z06. It has been already recalled and has the K harness. Friday night I was left stranded on the side of the road and walked home 6 miles after getting the SCL code on my IPC. BUT THE COLUMN IS NOT LOCKED. IT JUST KEEPS STALLING! Next day I had it towed to my shop and threw the tech 2 on it. I tried everything from clearing every code to reprogramming every module and box I could on the car using TIS and the Tech 2. Then i looked into this forum, into building your own CLB and what not. I pulled all the 23-25 fuses, found the Column lock relay plugs (relay gets removed after k-harness install) with no relay, tried powering up every wire, then tried powering up every column and k-member wire, then did all the common stuff like using another key, disconnecting battery, Turning the wheel lock to lock, unplugging the female end of the K-harness, And after all the programming and powering up I still ended the day with a non-running car. I went to radioshack tonight and purchased the diodes needed to build my own CLB ( im not gonna spend 50 dollars and wait a week for some BS relay I could solder in myself) And will be ordering a couple of the MY2k Omron Relays to make myself. I am kind of scared that my SCL code will not go away. If that happens...I am calling it quits and burning the damn thing to the ground (yes im joking, dont call and inform my insurance company) What sucks is the fact that I barely have enough money to pay for college at 18 years old and now my Z06 is penny and nickeling me to death. I have no choice but to sell it once it gets fixed. I never want to own a corvette C5 after this. Sorry but even being a Corvette mechanic for the past couple years I never want to be left stranded over a F'ing recall. Sorry GM but you made me mad.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Im ready to burn my z06. It has been already recalled and has the K harness. Friday night I was left stranded on the side of the road and walked home 6 miles after getting the SCL code on my IPC. BUT THE COLUMN IS NOT LOCKED. IT JUST KEEPS STALLING! Next day I had it towed to my shop and threw the tech 2 on it. I tried everything from clearing every code to reprogramming every module and box I could on the car using TIS and the Tech 2. Then i looked into this forum, into building your own CLB and what not. I pulled all the 23-25 fuses, found the Column lock relay plugs (relay gets removed after k-harness install) with no relay, tried powering up every wire, then tried powering up every column and k-member wire, then did all the common stuff like using another key, disconnecting battery, Turning the wheel lock to lock, unplugging the female end of the K-harness, And after all the programming and powering up I still ended the day with a non-running car. I went to radioshack tonight and purchased the diodes needed to build my own CLB ( im not gonna spend 50 dollars and wait a week for some BS relay I could solder in myself) And will be ordering a couple of the MY2k Omron Relays to make myself. I am kind of scared that my SCL code will not go away. If that happens...I am calling it quits and burning the damn thing to the ground (yes im joking, dont call and inform my insurance company) What sucks is the fact that I barely have enough money to pay for college at 18 years old and now my Z06 is penny and nickeling me to death. I have no choice but to sell it once it gets fixed. I never want to own a corvette C5 after this. Sorry but even being a Corvette mechanic for the past couple years I never want to be left stranded over a F'ing recall. Sorry GM but you made me mad.
The CLB or a tune will take care of your issue...I have both...

It just takes time and or $$$ or both...comes with owning any car especially a toy...

Good Luck
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Well i did some more throrough research and came to the conclusion that either my K-harness or Locking motor is not in good working condition. I will make the CLB, put in a new column, take out my K-harness, and then put the new CLB harness in and see what happens.After that I will see what I can do about disabling fuel shutoff .
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Just figured I'd share my solution and bring my dealing with this issue to a close. Took my baby to the tuner and rather than using HP to clear the issue, he had his buddy (a tech at a stealership) bring a tech 2 out and REMOVE the BS program that they put in with the recall. He then set column lock to null and cranked the fuel cutouts up to 255 and presto-changeo, my issues are solved. Also got a sick dyno-tune out of the deal and its like having a whole new car!!

In closing, thanks GM for building such a badass car but you could have spent a few more hours in the quality control phase, I toured the Bowling Green plant on Monday after the C5-C6 bash and while they seem to run a tight ship over there, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON we spend this much money on a car and have to deal with this kind of bull****. I mentioned my issues while on the tour and even the UAW boys knew about it, SAD. Their answer? "Hey we just put 'em in, its not our fault if the parts suck," which I have to say I agree with and understood. I'd like a personal letter from GM over this, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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im done messing with all this BS. After replacing column and not being able to find the relay needed for a CLB, I called a tuner and have him coming out tm morning to come tune this piece. ahhhhh
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10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


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How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


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Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


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