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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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What does it do?
I drained my trans and rear today and had synthetic Mobil 1 ATF and 75/90 gear lube ready to go. I stopped by my local GM dealer but of course they were out of the additive and I couldn't finish the job. I'm sure I'll find some tomorrow and I was wondering what the additive does for the rear end.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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it stops the clutch plates from chattering dont leave it out the stuff from gm is best
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redline and many synthetics have the friction modifier in it already.

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Originally Posted by TT_Vert
redline and many synthetics have the friction modifier in it already.

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Mobil 1 diff fluid does not so make sure you get it in there.
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Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-90 contains special friction modifiers designed for limited slip-type differentials. In most applications, the addition of special LS (limited slip) additives is not required. For axles requiring the highest level of limited-slip performance, OEM specific LS additives can be added to this fluid.
http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/Mo..._75W-90LS.aspx

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Thanks for the info.
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np, u can still put it in if you'd like. I havent for years and never had a problem w/ premature diff wear from mustangs w/ solid rears to c5s w/ the IRS rear. If you go w/ the GM lube, you must use the Friction modifier however.

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From Mobile 1:
"Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-90 contains special friction modifiers designed for limited slip-type differentials. In most applications, the addition of special LS (limited slip) additives is not required. For axles requiring the highest level of limited-slip performance, OEM specific LS additives can be added to this fluid."
I'll add the GM stuff. Couldn't hurt but probably not absolutely necessary.
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Originally Posted by TT_Vert
redline and many synthetics have the friction modifier in it already.

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While this is true, there are many who recommend this and the GM bottle. I use Redline 75w90 with the additive and add a bottle of GM additive before I put the Redline in. Put the GM bottle in and then you will use almost 2 bottles of the Redline.
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the way i look at it is the stuff is only 10 bucks. Fairly cheap matinance for my C5
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It is $6 at one of the dealers in my area.
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Originally Posted by jmzvet
From Mobile 1:
"Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-90 contains special friction modifiers designed for limited slip-type differentials. In most applications, the addition of special LS (limited slip) additives is not required. For axles requiring the highest level of limited-slip performance, OEM specific LS additives can be added to this fluid."
I'll add the GM stuff. Couldn't hurt but probably not absolutely necessary.
Be careful with adding more friction modifier. The way to really fine tune this process is to hear some chatter and add just enough friction modifier to eliminate it. Too much modiifer will cause the plates to slip all the time and you will have no limited slip capability.
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I tried to switch to Mobil 1 syn gear lube (with one bottle of additive) on my 98 - but after a few weeks starting getting weird noises from rear end . After several trips to dealer (still under warrenty) finally flushed out Mobil 1 and went with stock gear lube and one bottle of additive - much better! Still had a little noise on figure 8's and put in a second bottle of additive myslef - have not had any sounds / issues in the diff now for over 25k miles, year and a half.
I believe a few others also had problems with switching to mobil 1 syn gear lube in diff - I had ~30kmiles on a 4 or 5 year old C5. But - many have not had issues with Mobil 1 syn gear lube. Just keep this in mind if you do switch, might save some trouble if you have problems.
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Martin - isn't the stock GM gear lube a synthetic product...or at least semi-synthetic?? thanks..
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Originally Posted by nmbis2k
Martin - isn't the stock GM gear lube a synthetic product...or at least semi-synthetic?? thanks..
To be honest - I am not sure. My dealer invoice only says it is PN 12345977 Lubrication. I suspect some chemical issues when switching to different lubes, esp. with vehicles with years and tens of thousands of miles on the friction surfaces. All I know is I had this done May 2003 (after draining original fluid and adding the Mobil 1 syn gear lube and additive a few weeks earlier), added a second additive a couple of weeks after May 2003 (didn't get the full ?4 oz bottle in), and it is still running fine today - no more of those rear end noises (better knock on wood)!
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Originally Posted by nmbis2k
Martin - isn't the stock GM gear lube a synthetic product...or at least semi-synthetic?? thanks..

GM switched from conventional to synthetic very early in C5 production. By late 97 all cars came out of the factory with synthetic.

I switched to Redline 75W/90 after about 15,000 miles. Redline has about 4% friction modifier built in and I have never had to add any more.
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Originally Posted by Richin Chicago
Be careful with adding more friction modifier. The way to really fine tune this process is to hear some chatter and add just enough friction modifier to eliminate it. Too much modiifer will cause the plates to slip all the time and you will have no limited slip capability.


I use Amsoil that has the modifier in it. Redline makes two rear oils, 75W-90 that has the modifier in it, and 75W-90NS that does not. You can obtain the correct slip characteristics by using some combination of the above or using the NS and adding the modifier. The point is, too much and you effectively do not have a limited slip differential any more. This is one case where more is not necessarily better.
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