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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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Car was finished 1 day ahead of the two week stated time. I will pick it up on Saturday and show pics and video once it is home. Lingefelter also spotted a bad seal and welded my cat back exhaust, thanks.

For now, all I have is some great dyno numbers on a very driveable 'vette.

Rear Wheel Horse Power: 424.2

Rear Wheel Torque: 359.1

Minor note: deleted the X-pipe from the order.
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Nice power but the torque seems kind of low. Do you know why?

.631 lift is gi-normous!!
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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It's a good start....
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Nice power but the torque seems kind of low. Do you know why?

.631 lift is gi-normous!!
I asked them to tone down the torque so it would be easier to hook up...just kidding, I will ask the question and post the graph sheet once I have it.

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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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HERE IS THE DYNO SHEET FROM LINGENFELTER:

http://www.advantagelabel.com/BK/Lin...ter%20Dyno.jpg
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Your missing about 40+ ft. lbs. of TQ

I'd be asking some questions.
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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What is going on? I actually have less torque from about 2,500-3,500 rpm than stock? I will get with them on Monday. Any input is appreciated.
REAR WHEEL #'S:

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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
Now here's the question I always ask myself when contemplating such an upgrade.

The cost of this is a bit over six grand. With it, you'll realize about the same horsepower gain that you would from a Magnacharger (albeit for a bit less money).

What's the reasoning for going with internal mods vs. forced induction? I don't have a position one way or the other, I'm just trying to see why people (who hopefully know more than I do) go this route. Thanks
six grand is installed, that is the cost of just the Magnacharger. I think the installed price of the SC is about $9,000.
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Can't answer your question, but yes, your torque seems low. I'll be interested in the answer, and hopefully, a better result for you.
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The torque could be right on, didn't you have a very large cam installed? A cam that big sacrifices low end torque for top end hp.
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Originally Posted by 03LingenfelterC5
What is going on? I actually have less torque from about 2,500-3,500 rpm than stock? I will get with them on Monday. Any imput is appreciated.
whats the LSA spec on the cam? If its 115 or higher, you could lose low end torque
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Most impressive for the $$$
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 03LingenfelterC5
Lingenfelter CNC ported & polished LS1 cylinder heads
2.02 / 1.57" one piece stainless steel intake & exhaust valves
Three angle valve job, hand blending of valve seats
CC chambers, surface, set spring heights and assembly
Competition Cams double valve springs, titanium retainers & locks
Custom designed Competition Cams hydraulic roller camshaft
Cloyes heavy duty timing chain set
Modified LS1 oil pump assembly
Lingenfelter ported & polished throttle body
Kooks stainless steel long tube headers
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All necessary gaskets, fluids & bolts
Engine removal, inspection and cleaning for assembly
Professional assembly & engine installation
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Alignment and welding of the Corsa Exhaust
Engine testing & expert PCM tuning
Chassis dyno testing before & after installation

Looking for some very streetable high NA HP.

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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by blazeone
The torque could be right on, didn't you have a very large cam installed? A cam that big sacrifices low end torque for top end hp.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 02:53 AM
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I'd expect a lot more tq.

Cam only cars make more tq.

I know you have cats etc but I'd also expect a lil more hp with a cam that big. Around 440rwhp and 400rwtq.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 03LingenfelterC5
Well, I dropped my '02 Roadster down at Lingenfelter last Friday and I just got an e-mail of the stock HP (almost stock, I did add Corsa Indy's) from them.

At the rear wheels:
Baseline was 312.7 hp 337.1 lbs ft of torque

I will keep this thread updated for those considering the process.

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Did they send you the baseline dyno results without asking? Just wondered, as you know, my car's been down there for several days. I also sent you an email with a couple of questions, if you wouldn't mind checking you messages!
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Originally Posted by blazeone
The torque could be right on, didn't you have a very large cam installed? A cam that big sacrifices low end torque for top end hp.
No way. I have a buddy with a bigger cam in a 346 making 465 rwhp and 430+ rwt.

He's missing some RWT.
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You can get 500 crank hp for $6 g's through LPE? If so, I think I found my next package when I buy my C5.

Mr. Potter, care to shed some light on this? ? ? ?
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1027938

Here is a LPE C6 in the same boat w/360 tq. I suppose 424HP is OK these days. Blazeone hit the nail on the head about the trade off. Peak numbers are far less important than the actual curve itself. But peak numbers sell packages (whats the pckg called?) and what a sacrifice, look at the size of that cam. Please tell me that the slugs were flycut and the heads were shaved because that log needs much more dynamic/static compression. How much time do you spend 6000 rpm+?
I assume you have 4:10's. I can't imagine building/ordering a street motor and not making max torque the #1 priority but thats just me.
Take it to the track and see what it traps.

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Originally Posted by 03LingenfelterC5
Car was finished 1 day ahead of the two week stated time. I will pick it up on Saturday and show pics and video once it is home. Lingefelter also spotted a bad seal and welded my cat back exhaust, thanks.

For now, all I have is some great dyno numbers on a very driveable 'vette.

Rear Wheel Horse Power: 424.2

Rear Wheel Torque: 359.1

Minor note: deleted the X-pipe from the order.
I don't get it, ive got 368 rwtq with just headers/exhaust and tune
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