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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mirek
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Here is a LPE C6 in the same boat w/360 tq. I suppose 424HP is OK these days. Blazeone hit the nail on the head about the trade off. Peak numbers are far less important than the actual curve itself. But peak numbers sell packages (whats the pckg called?) and what a sacrifice, look at the size of that cam. Please tell me that the slugs were flycut and the heads were shaved because that log needs much more dynamic/static compression. How much time do you spend 6000 rpm+?
I assume you have 4:10's. I can't imagine building/ordering a street motor and not making max torque the #1 priority but thats just me.
Take it to the track and see what it traps.
You sound like a Tony Mamo protege.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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Having those kind of guys running around here with the resources at their disposal is a HUGE benefit.
I've seen it happen too.
There are two local guys in a similar (not quite the same) boat.(Monster cam stuffed in an otherwise stock motor/gear shaking their heads back and forth about why their car "Feals slow")
Go to the track.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 76Stingray&02Z06
I don't get it, ive got 368 rwtq with just headers/exhaust and tune
Those numbers sound a bit hi for only exhaust and a tune. Have you had a chance to take her to the track?

360 rwhp is fine for a H/C package designed for a street car. Not everyone wants a lopey cam that idles like crap. JMHO.

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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mirek
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1027938

...Peak numbers are far less important than the actual curve itself. But peak numbers sell packages (whats the pckg called?) and what a sacrifice, look at the size of that cam. Please tell me that the slugs were flycut and the heads were shaved because that log needs much more dynamic/static compression. How much time do you spend 6000 rpm+?
I assume you have 4:10's. I can't imagine building/ordering a street motor and not making max torque the #1 priority but thats just me.
Take it to the track and see what it traps.
Thanks for the encouragement. Lingenfelter built what I ordered and considering the total package from start to finish, it is was the best value out there for me. I will spend a lot of time at 5-6,500, thank you. As for your assumptions and imagination, I will let that one go. I will update with a full SOPT update and video with the Nitto R2 305's mounted when the weather warms up.

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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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When do you get your car home? Post impressions please!!
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mdhmi

360 rwhp is fine for a H/C package designed for a street car. Not everyone wants a lopey cam that idles like crap. JMHO.

Cheers,

Mark
I hope thats a typo.

Otherwise, I got a heads/cam package I will sell you. excellent driveability
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DDSLT5
When do you get your car home? Post impressions please!!
I just need one day of rain to rinse the salt off the roads, and a day that is higher than 40 degrees F, and you can count on a short video from under the hydraulic floor lifted car, under the hood, in the car, at idle, and a WOT drive by.

All I can tell you right now is that it idles fine whether cold, hot, or with all accessories on high, and that with the OEM runflats, above 4,000 RPM I could not tell if the tires were spining or if I was in neutral....crazy.

Nitto R2 305 rears fit nicely:


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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Thats a part of the car your opposition will soon be seeing a lot of!!!

I spoke to Ed Potter yesterday about that combo. He said it's a hellova package! Enjoy it.

I can't wait to own another LPE car.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 03LingenfelterC5
I just need one day of rain to rinse the salt off the roads, and a day that is higher than 40 degrees F, and you can count on a short video from under the hydraulic floor lifted car, under the hood, in the car, at idle, and a WOT drive by.

BK


I'll be looking forward to it! And there's nuthin' wrong with a big bumpstick, as long as you've got the right gearing and compression. I think LPE bumps the CR up to about 10.8-11.0-1 in that package so you're OK there. In fact, IIRC the duration on that cam is under 230 w/ 114 LSA so it's not like you're running anything real radical. Still, I bet 4.10 gears would make it scream.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kumar75150
I hope thats a typo.

Otherwise, I got a heads/cam package I will sell you. excellent driveability
I'm certainly not suggesting that all H/C cars that make more than 360 rwhp idle like crap, I'm working on a H/C package myself. Already have the heads ordered. Just need to pick a cam.

Mark
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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dude stock cars with bolts on make 360rwhp

if u are looking to make that much power, i will sell you some stock ls6 heads and cam

point is with a cam as big as he is using, he should be making more power than his car did.

There are cam only cars making about the same power with a cam that big.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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I think most everyone got it, but just to clarify, the dyno graph is Rear Wheel Horsepower. The car is making 424HP at the REAR WHEELS with a stock bottom and Lingenfelter LS1 heads.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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So long as your happy...All I can say is Congrats on your purchase and enjoy the added power
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 11:13 PM
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I'll venture to guess he is unfortunatley at stock compression & even quench for that matter. Just look at his graph.
BTW I did not mean to call out the combo you bought. Obviously all that matters is your happy not how it compares to other combo's or cams. Input and learning is all this place is about so please do not take anything I or anyone says personally. Four pages of "thumbs ups" does nobody any good.

Mark what heads did you get ?!
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mirek
Mark what heads did you get ?!
WCCC LS1 CNC'd with larger CC's. That and a thicker gasket coupled with alcohol should be fun.

Note to 03Lingenfelter - we are having a private track rental at Milan Dragway on 5/7. Check out http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1028334. Always a good time. Nothing but Vettes. You'll see everything from mild to wild..

Cheers,

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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mirek
I'll venture to guess he is unfortunatley at stock compression & even quench for that matter. Just look at his graph.
?!
I don't feel so bad having stock comp., 91 octane gas, 228/230 114 with old stage 1.5 heads making 410 rwhp and 390 rtq. with 4.10s.
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