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Old May 2, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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bandit_48032;

The Viper and C5 are both in a totally different class then the Mustang.

in all seriousness; with that list you have... the Mustang doesn't belong on it. If you can't see that yourself, no one here can help you out.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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I understand that, which is why I would rather have the Viper or the C5. The C5 is the most realisitc car for me right now so what I'm trying to do is get a good idea of what mods I would need and a rough price in order to get a C5 coupe into the 11's!
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Originally Posted by bandit_48032
I understand that, which is why I would rather have the Viper or the C5. The C5 is the most realisitc car for me right now so what I'm trying to do is get a good idea of what mods I would need and a rough price in order to get a C5 coupe into the 11's!
Heads, cam, exhaust. Consistant 11's. Cost? Who does the work and price of parts.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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I too have never seen a stock Z06 run 11's. I have seen video on the Internet, but that is not seeing one do it in person. I have seen many Z's run at the track and the majority of them are around 13.0, fastest one I have seen was a 12.6. Ok bolt on C5 coupe 11 second machine I will put my list of mods as follows. This is for the A4.
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high flow cats
magnaflow mangnapack catback
dyno tune
3600 stall
373 rear end
hardened output shaft
BFG DRs
Also you are talking about a 427 for the C5 coupe, remember that engine with installation will cost as much as the used C5 does.
This would be around 5900.00 in parts, labor around $2000.00 if you had it all done at once.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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This would be around 5900.00 in parts, labor around $2000.00 if you had it all done at once.
Gary, you think you could run consistant 11's without engine mods? I know you can get there occasionally.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Korreck
Gary, you think you could run consistant 11's without engine mods? I know you can get there occasionally.
vararam -.3
long tubes -.3
cats and cat back -.2
3600 stall -.4
373 rear end -.2
dyno tune -.2
DRs -.2

13.5
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11.7 qtr mile ET
Yep I think he would be in the 11's for good.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Sounds to me like someone is trying to do some market research...
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Old May 2, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Well, here is my 2 cents. And I might get a bit of flame for this post but here goes...

It sounds like you want a car to go drag racing with. The C5 is not meant to be a drag car. IMO, if all you want to do is go fast in a straight line at the dragstrip, your best bet would be to go for the Mustang, or maybe a Camaro or Firebird. Those cars are more straight line cars, where the C5 is more of a car for all aspects of performance, including corners. To me the C5 is a drivers car. I'm not saying you can't drag race a C5, I'm just saying you'd probably get more bang for your buck drag racing with the Cobra.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the trail of broken parts strewn behind a C5 at a dragstrip would cost more than a trail of broken Cobra parts.

I bought my Z06 because I wanted a fun car that could carve a corner too. To me that's what the C5 is about. My Z06 will probably never see a drag strip. I'm not knocking the guys that take their C5s to the dragstrip, I'm just saying I won't be doing it with mine and I think (bang for the buck) there are other cars better suited for it than a C5.

Maybe it's just the fact that I think the C5 is a beautiful car and I wouldn't be able to force myself to hammer the hell out of one at a dragstrip. I dunno.

The same with a Viper. I think it would be a waste to buy a Viper just to take to the dragstrip.

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Old May 2, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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Well, here is my 2 cents. And I might get a bit of flame for this post but here goes...

It sounds like you want a car to go drag racing with. The C5 is not meant to be a drag car. IMO, if all you want to do is go fast in a straight line at the dragstrip, your best bet would be to go for the Mustang, or maybe a Camaro or Firebird. Those cars are more straight line cars, where the C5 is more of a car for all aspects of performance, including corners. To me the C5 is a drivers car. I'm not saying you can't drag race a C5, I'm just saying you'd probably get more bang for your buck drag racing with the Cobra.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the trail of broken parts strewn behind a C5 at a dragstrip would cost more than a trail of broken Cobra parts.

I bought my Z06 because I wanted a fun car that could carve a corner too. To me that's what the C5 is about. My Z06 will probably never see a drag strip. I'm not knocking the guys that take their C5s to the dragstrip, I'm just saying I won't be doing it with mine and I think (bang for the buck) there are other cars better suited for it than a C5.

Maybe it's just the fact that I think the C5 is a beautiful car and I wouldn't be able to force myself to hammer the hell out of one at a dragstrip. I dunno.

The same with a Viper. I think it would be a waste to buy a Viper just to take to the dragstrip.

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Old May 2, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Donovan 572
Well, here is my 2 cents. And I might get a bit of flame for this post but here goes...

It sounds like you want a car to go drag racing with. The C5 is not meant to be a drag car. IMO, if all you want to do is go fast in a straight line at the dragstrip, your best bet would be to go for the Mustang, or maybe a Camaro or Firebird. Those cars are more straight line cars, where the C5 is more of a car for all aspects of performance, including corners. To me the C5 is a drivers car. I'm not saying you can't drag race a C5, I'm just saying you'd probably get more bang for your buck drag racing with the Cobra.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the trail of broken parts strewn behind a C5 at a dragstrip would cost more than a trail of broken Cobra parts.

I bought my Z06 because I wanted a fun car that could carve a corner too. To me that's what the C5 is about. My Z06 will probably never see a drag strip. I'm not knocking the guys that take their C5s to the dragstrip, I'm just saying I won't be doing it with mine and I think (bang for the buck) there are other cars better suited for it than a C5.

Maybe it's just the fact that I think the C5 is a beautiful car and I wouldn't be able to force myself to hammer the hell out of one at a dragstrip. I dunno.

The same with a Viper. I think it would be a waste to buy a Viper just to take to the dragstrip.

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Old May 2, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Definitely a corvette is more designed as a road race rather than a drag strip car. But I bought mine primarily because I wanted a vette, and I drag race because there is a track close and its real cheap, and I love to drag race. I think I would love to race it on a track just never tried it yet. Bang for the buck a cobra is better for the strip, you could get a cobra into the 11's for 1/4 what it would cost to get a C5 into the 11's. I just don't like mustangs that much.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Is that all you have to do to get responses on this forum??WTF!!?? JUST YELL OUT "HEY EVERYONE, RESPOND TO MY POST"

I have real problems and question regarding a car that I REALLY have, and it takes a week to get 2 responses, but just yell out "respond to my post" and they come running?

Consider yourself flamed. Buy whatcha' want. I don't believe your buyin' anything though...
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Old May 2, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Z06, the mustang dont have a removable top, neither does the Z06. if you want to realy get it into the low 11s high 10s a supercharger isnt much more for a vette than a mustang.. I love mustanges personaly but none of my stangs got anything on my bone stock Z06 I can actualy take a curve with the Z. Your looking at two differant directions you want performance ( ridgid chassis less weight ) you want open air ( not ridgid chassis more weight ) thats like saying I want tomatoes and bannas out of the same fruit... I think your goign to have to make the decsion whats more important to you.. performance or style.. and in what balance to me a Z06 FRC has alot of style on its own without the open air fealing. Although when I purchased it I liked to look of the regular coups more I went for the performance and later fell in love with the FRC looks. a nice Z06 is goign to be a hell of a lot less than a Viper in any circumstance and more than the Mustang the same... just my .02
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Old May 2, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000BSME
Is that all you have to do to get responses on this forum??WTF!!?? JUST YELL OUT "HEY EVERYONE, RESPOND TO MY POST"

I have real problems and question regarding a car that I REALLY have, and it takes a week to get 2 responses, but just yell out "respond to my post" and they come running?

Consider yourself flamed. Buy whatcha' want. I don't believe your buyin' anything though...
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Old May 2, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000BSME
Is that all you have to do to get responses on this forum??WTF!!?? JUST YELL OUT "HEY EVERYONE, RESPOND TO MY POST"

I have real problems and question regarding a car that I REALLY have, and it takes a week to get 2 responses, but just yell out "respond to my post" and they come running?

Consider yourself flamed. Buy whatcha' want. I don't believe your buyin' anything though...

Wow, I'm sorry that I have questions about an expensive car before I just go out and spend about $40,000 on one. Excuse me for researching something with experienced people before I make a decesion!
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Old May 2, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bandit_48032
Wow, I'm sorry that I have questions about an expensive car before I just go out and spend about $40,000 on one. Excuse me for researching something with experienced people before I make a decesion!
You are doing the smart thing.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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I know this wouldn't get me into the 11's but what do you think a C5 Coupe (not ZO6) would run with this performance pac and a good cam? (any suggestions on cams would be nice, I don't believe SLP has one for the Corvette)


This is the SLP ZL7 Performance Pac

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Everyone has been a huge help and thanks for helping me out with everything!
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I did, watch the videos and you will see a z06 run 11's, stock

define "stock"???

I've never seen a stock Z06 ever get below 12.2 in the quarter... and the 12.2 was with a redline launch by a seemed-to-be skilled driver.

They either need tuning, and/or headers, and/or cam, and/or cold air intake, and/or drag radials to get into the elevens.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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My two cents: A nice heads and cam package along with the necessary supporting items will achieve your goal. The AFR heads are popular right now, but there are several different packages that will get you where you need to be. You didn’t say what type of transmission you would prefer in the Vette, but since you are considering the Cobra and the Viper I assume you are ok with the 6 speed C5.

If you start with a six speed car you will need a new clutch, 410 gears, and a hardened output shaft in the rear diff. You will need to get at least 450RWHP out of the heads and cam package, which isn’t hard to do. Figure roughly $10K to get the car to this point if you pay a good tuner to do it. Much less if you do the work yourself. With ET Streets this setup is capable of high tens in the ¼ in the mid to upper 120’s mph if you are not afraid to abuse the car.

SLP in my opinion is not the way to go. 427 flywheel horsepower will not get you where you want to be. I would guess that a C5 coupe with 427 hp would run low 12’s- high 11’s consistently.

You should be able to find a nice low mile C5 and upgrade it for around $30k total.
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define "stock"???

I've never seen a stock Z06 ever get below 12.2 in the quarter... and the 12.2 was with a redline launch by a seemed-to-be skilled driver.

They either need tuning, and/or headers, and/or cam, and/or cold air intake, and/or drag radials to get into the elevens.
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