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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
define "stock"???
I've never seen a stock Z06 ever get below 12.2 in the quarter... and the 12.2 was with a redline launch by a seemed-to-be skilled driver.
They either need tuning, and/or headers, and/or cam, and/or cold air intake, and/or drag radials to get into the elevens.
I've never seen a stock Z06 ever get below 12.2 in the quarter... and the 12.2 was with a redline launch by a seemed-to-be skilled driver.
They either need tuning, and/or headers, and/or cam, and/or cold air intake, and/or drag radials to get into the elevens.
everyone huh? Or maybe you need to get out more.
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St. Jude Donor '09
1.) Buy a 2000 C5 Coupe or 2001 Z06 (you want the later model PCM).
2.) Buy an LS7 Crate Motor from GMMP in the fall of 2005- add the dry sump system. Upgrade tranny and Diff.
3.) Add a Vortech or Procharger Blower. Andy @ A&A will be happy to help
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Viper Killer in all Catagories
and Less money.
FWIW.
2.) Buy an LS7 Crate Motor from GMMP in the fall of 2005- add the dry sump system. Upgrade tranny and Diff.
3.) Add a Vortech or Procharger Blower. Andy @ A&A will be happy to help
.Viper Killer in all Catagories
and Less money.FWIW.
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St. Jude Donor '09
Originally Posted by Donovan 572
Well, here is my 2 cents. And I might get a bit of flame for this post but here goes...
It sounds like you want a car to go drag racing with. The C5 is not meant to be a drag car. IMO, if all you want to do is go fast in a straight line at the dragstrip, your best bet would be to go for the Mustang, or maybe a Camaro or Firebird. Those cars are more straight line cars, where the C5 is more of a car for all aspects of performance, including corners. To me the C5 is a drivers car. I'm not saying you can't drag race a C5, I'm just saying you'd probably get more bang for your buck drag racing with the Cobra.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the trail of broken parts strewn behind a C5 at a dragstrip would cost more than a trail of broken Cobra parts.
I bought my Z06 because I wanted a fun car that could carve a corner too. To me that's what the C5 is about. My Z06 will probably never see a drag strip. I'm not knocking the guys that take their C5s to the dragstrip, I'm just saying I won't be doing it with mine and I think (bang for the buck) there are other cars better suited for it than a C5.
Maybe it's just the fact that I think the C5 is a beautiful car and I wouldn't be able to force myself to hammer the hell out of one at a dragstrip. I dunno.
The same with a Viper. I think it would be a waste to buy a Viper just to take to the dragstrip.
(searching for my flame suit)
It sounds like you want a car to go drag racing with. The C5 is not meant to be a drag car. IMO, if all you want to do is go fast in a straight line at the dragstrip, your best bet would be to go for the Mustang, or maybe a Camaro or Firebird. Those cars are more straight line cars, where the C5 is more of a car for all aspects of performance, including corners. To me the C5 is a drivers car. I'm not saying you can't drag race a C5, I'm just saying you'd probably get more bang for your buck drag racing with the Cobra.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the trail of broken parts strewn behind a C5 at a dragstrip would cost more than a trail of broken Cobra parts.
I bought my Z06 because I wanted a fun car that could carve a corner too. To me that's what the C5 is about. My Z06 will probably never see a drag strip. I'm not knocking the guys that take their C5s to the dragstrip, I'm just saying I won't be doing it with mine and I think (bang for the buck) there are other cars better suited for it than a C5.
Maybe it's just the fact that I think the C5 is a beautiful car and I wouldn't be able to force myself to hammer the hell out of one at a dragstrip. I dunno.
The same with a Viper. I think it would be a waste to buy a Viper just to take to the dragstrip.
(searching for my flame suit)
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From: Country Boys Can Survive.
Originally Posted by bandit_48032
I'm brand new here and I'm in a real fix. I'm looking at 3 cars in particular right now but I have one goal for performance in mind. I want a car that will run low 11's or high 10's. Now my three options are a 2000 Dodge Viper, an LS1 C5 Corvette, and a 2004 SVT Mustang Cobra.
________________________________________ ___________________
My pro's and con's
2000 Viper Pro's
(1) RT/10- has a removable hardtop
(2) Closest to the performance #'s I am looking for
2000 Viper Con's
(1) EXPENSIVE! (to buy and mod)
2004 SVT Cobra Pro's
(1) Cheapest (to buy and mod)
(2) Breaks into the 11's with minimul bolt on's and a tune
2004 SVT Cobra Con's
(1) No removable roof pannel, t-tops, etc.
(2) Everyone has a Mustang!
LS1 C5 Corvette Pro's
(1) Has removable top
(2) Cheaper than the Viper
LS1 C5 Corvette Con's
(1) Furthest from the performance numbers I want to reach
(2) Mods are expensive
________________________________________ ___________________
The Viper is a nice car and definitally will turn heads but I would rather spend a little less money and get something thats still a real head turner! The 03/04 Cobra's are some real beasts on the street but I know if I go cruising around town the average person is just gonna say, "ya another mustang!" and they don't have a removable roof pannel. (convertibles are out of the question). For the money, the C5 has the looks and has the option of coming with a removable roof pannel. I would really like to get the C5 but I don't want to spend more money for mods then I actually pay for the car itself. Can I break into the low 11's without a blower? What kind of mods would I need to reach this goal? I know if anyone is gonna be able to help me it's the people on this site. I thank all of you for your time and I hope to hear from you guys soon!
PS: Can anyone tell me if the SLP ZL7 Performance Pac is as good as they say it is. It claims to give your C5 Coupe 427 Horsepower. Anyone have torque #'s for this? What would a 427 Horsepower C5 Coupe run in a 1/4 mile?
________________________________________ ___________________
My pro's and con's
2000 Viper Pro's
(1) RT/10- has a removable hardtop
(2) Closest to the performance #'s I am looking for
2000 Viper Con's
(1) EXPENSIVE! (to buy and mod)
2004 SVT Cobra Pro's
(1) Cheapest (to buy and mod)
(2) Breaks into the 11's with minimul bolt on's and a tune
2004 SVT Cobra Con's
(1) No removable roof pannel, t-tops, etc.
(2) Everyone has a Mustang!
LS1 C5 Corvette Pro's
(1) Has removable top
(2) Cheaper than the Viper
LS1 C5 Corvette Con's
(1) Furthest from the performance numbers I want to reach
(2) Mods are expensive
________________________________________ ___________________
The Viper is a nice car and definitally will turn heads but I would rather spend a little less money and get something thats still a real head turner! The 03/04 Cobra's are some real beasts on the street but I know if I go cruising around town the average person is just gonna say, "ya another mustang!" and they don't have a removable roof pannel. (convertibles are out of the question). For the money, the C5 has the looks and has the option of coming with a removable roof pannel. I would really like to get the C5 but I don't want to spend more money for mods then I actually pay for the car itself. Can I break into the low 11's without a blower? What kind of mods would I need to reach this goal? I know if anyone is gonna be able to help me it's the people on this site. I thank all of you for your time and I hope to hear from you guys soon!
PS: Can anyone tell me if the SLP ZL7 Performance Pac is as good as they say it is. It claims to give your C5 Coupe 427 Horsepower. Anyone have torque #'s for this? What would a 427 Horsepower C5 Coupe run in a 1/4 mile?
Racer
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From: Portland Oregon
I have a few clients with who have had both Vipers and C5 Vettes and they all say the same thing..the viper is no corvette. They are sloppy in the corners, the *** gets loose way to easy and is very unpredictbale. As far as I know you cannot get in and tweak the Viper ECU making it a bitch to mod. If I were in your position I would buy a Z06, get a good tuner to install a decent heads/cam package and send it to Shirl Dickey (SDRE) and have the targa top conversion done... Hell have SDRE build you a fat bg cube motor with a H/C package. Best of both world IMO. Wish I had the wallet for it 
-Ken
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Le Mans Master
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From: San Marcos Texas
Buy a nice C5 in the mid $20s, add an intercooled Magnacharger with 5psi of boost($6700 plus installation and a new hood). And you will have 11's for around $33K and be very reliable for everyday driving...... 
The magnacharger at 5psi on the stock compression of 10 to 1 on the LS1 motor is very safe... 
Safety Car
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Originally Posted by chriswtx
Buy a nice C5 in the mid $20s, add an intercooled Magnacharger with 5psi of boost($6700 plus installation and a new hood). And you will have 11's for around $33K and be very reliable for everyday driving...... The magnacharger at 5psi on the stock compression of 10 to 1 on the LS1 motor is very safe...
Le Mans Master
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From: Southern Maryland Maryland
Just my .02.
The Vette would cost the least to go 10s. If your all about performance which I am...You got 2 options, TTI Stage X turbo 346 built motor or a Nitrous fed 346. The nitrous fed 346 is the most cost effective way to go 10s and its pretty easy if you ask me in a corvette.
Phil
The mininum needed to go 10s:
CCW Drag Package
3.90 Rear
Ram Clutch
Basic Bolt-ons with tune(headers, intake)
TNT 150 shot
The Vette would cost the least to go 10s. If your all about performance which I am...You got 2 options, TTI Stage X turbo 346 built motor or a Nitrous fed 346. The nitrous fed 346 is the most cost effective way to go 10s and its pretty easy if you ask me in a corvette.
Phil
The mininum needed to go 10s:
CCW Drag Package
3.90 Rear
Ram Clutch
Basic Bolt-ons with tune(headers, intake)
TNT 150 shot
Le Mans Master
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Posts: 5,577
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From: Southern Maryland Maryland
A friend of mine just went 11.6 with the above package without nitrous. Basic Bolt-ons. You'll pickup .7-1.2 in the 1320' with a 150 shot at that stage. Oh and DO NOT RUN DRAG RADIALS....You'll be sorry.... 
Phil
Phil
Melting Slicks
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From: Fountain Inn, South Carolina
Originally Posted by Korreck
Two comments,
1. Drive the Viper and compare with the Vette. Ride and comfort.
2. Everyone has a Mustang. And everytime they see another one, they want to race. You'll get tired of that. Been there, done that.
1. Drive the Viper and compare with the Vette. Ride and comfort.
2. Everyone has a Mustang. And everytime they see another one, they want to race. You'll get tired of that. Been there, done that.
Korreck, that's the best post I've ever seen you do
